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RED CHINA LAUNCHES FIRST HOMEMADE AEGIS DESTROYER
AFPC China Reform Monitor ^
| July 21, 2003
| Al Santoli, ed.
Posted on 07/21/2003 3:29:31 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: Dr Warmoose
We already have one.
Its call Seawolf
To: bruinbirdman; demlosers; All
This ship is the
Type 053c The Chicoms have jumped a generation in 5 years.
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posted on
07/21/2003 7:26:46 PM PDT
by
rmlew
("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
To: isthisnickcool
LOL. They don't call it a "junk" for nothing.
To: Jeff Head
ping
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posted on
07/21/2003 7:33:31 PM PDT
by
meadsjn
To: New Horizon
Can you imagine what the instruction manual reads like?
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posted on
07/21/2003 7:35:31 PM PDT
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: quietolong
"We already have one. Its call Seawolf"Yup. ...and, there are other things 'out-there' too. Sheee.
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posted on
07/21/2003 7:42:44 PM PDT
by
blam
To: vannrox
Thanks for the doc dump. [/sarcasm off]
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:05:28 PM PDT
by
AsYouAre
To: rmlew
"The Chicoms have jumped a generation in 5 years" How long does it take a country who can't separate a fourth stage or achieve syncronized orbit to develop MIRVs and a neutron bomb? Answer: how many years are there in two presidential terms?
yitbos
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:16:45 PM PDT
by
bruinbirdman
(Joe McCarthy was right)
To: blam
Yup. And its some neat stuff too
Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: Dr Warmoose
"So when does the US launch an Aegis-destroyer-destroyer? "
__________
Already got 'em. They may not know it, but I'm sure the new Red ship is equipped with one already, which stays about 500 feet down and behind their ship:
LA or Seawolf class SSN using (your choice):
Mark 48 torpedo
Harpoon ASM
Tomahawk ASM
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:44:10 PM PDT
by
frostbit
(Non Sibi, sed Patriae. "Not self, but country.")
To: Dr Warmoose
some years ago, I would think.
fast-attack submarines?
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:49:03 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
To: vannrox
bump-to-archive
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:50:47 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
To: New Horizon
that's a sampan. junks are a lot bigger, and have those ribbed sails.
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:51:45 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
To: rmlew
it suuuuure helps when someone else has already done all that tedious R&D for you, huh?
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:53:44 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
To: bruinbirdman
It is a great ship, but it keeps leaning over
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posted on
07/21/2003 8:59:05 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(J Marshall asserted the Court's monopoly on the interpretation of the Constitution, may he burn)
To: meadsjn; demlosers; rmlew; bruinbirdman; King Prout; Porterville; blam; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...
The Chicomms are updating and upgrading their PLAN (Navy) as quickly as they can, and they are doing it to unltimately confront the U.S. Navy.
As regards this new ship, which in fact does represent a generation jump in the last 2-3 years, compare their new AEGIS destroyer with our very latest Burke AEGIS destroyer. See any similarities?
New Type 052C PLAN Anti-Air DDG
Latest U.S. Navy Burke Class AEGIS DDG
Don't let ANYONE tell you that the Clinton Admin didn't sell us down the tubes. The PLAN was twenty five to thirty years behind us in technology and anything approaching our capability in 1993. Now, they are building these as fast as they can. They put out two of the general combatanbts last year and have already launched one of these this year. Probably shooting for a two a year production rate at the current time.
Even with that, without some very serious technological advantage, like some sort of super-supercavitating weapon to take on our carriers like I describe in:
The Dragon's Fury Series
A Series about World War III
...they will still not be capable of achieving their regional or global goal against the U.S. Navy. We siply are too large and have too much experience, and with the CBG's and our submarines, have an unassailable edge.
But, the way they are building up and moving forward though, I have to wonder if they don't have something like that up their sleave. IMHO, we must remain vigilant and confront the growing threat that the PRC represents...and stop funding them in their military buildup.
Best Fregards.
Jeff
To: NormsRevenge; ninenot; flamefront; Sawdring; Enemy Of The State; Jeff Head; brat; dalereed; ...
bump
To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for that BUMP. I almost want to post my response in post 37 as a separate thread. The similarities in technology, capability and even how the ships look is extremely revealing when comparing their "latest" to our Aegis class. This didn't happen overnight. We have been building the Burke destroyers for many years, since the early 1990's.
The Chinese have progressed from 1950-1960 class destroyers since that time to very modern destroyers now. They did it with the pilfering of, and out and out gift of technology under the Clinton administration. And this is just in the Naval area. They have done the same thing in many, many other areas, including their nuclear ballistic missile program.
To: vannrox
Good post. Now how do we get attention span deficient sheeples to read it?
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