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Is President Bush A Conservative--Sullivan's Question
Andrewsullivan.com ^ | July 21, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/21/2003 8:14:50 PM PDT by publius1

The Liberal Within Is Bush A Conservative?

Is president Bush a conservative?

It may sound like a stupid question but the dizzying mix of policies that this president has pursued - domestically and in foreign affairs -is surprisingly immune to coherent ideological analysis. Where it does seem to make sense, it certainly doesn't look like the classical conservatism of the Regagan-Thatcher years, or the revolutionary conservatism of the Gingrich period. And in some critical ways, it's far less traditionally conservative than the administration of Bill Clinton.

Take a couple of obvious differences between this administration and the last. The Clinton years will rightly go down as a period of intense fiscal sobriety. The president wasn't solely responsible for this: he was backed into a balanced budget (and then surpluses) by a Republican Congress. But the spending record of the Clintonites was extremely tight. Compare that to the Bush record. In a mere two years, this administration has turned an annual surplus of $167 billion into an annual deficit of over $400 billion. In 2001, the projected fiscal future until 2008 was estimated at accumulating $2.9 trillion of surplus - room to tackle the baby-boomer retirement crunch. Last week's White House estimates of the same future period showed a projected increase in government debt at $1.9 trillion. In other words, the Bushies have added a projected extra $4.8 trillion in debt to the U.S. government. In two short years.

Some of this was hardly Bush's fault. The economic impact of 9/11, the sluggish world economy, and expensive wars in Afghanistan and now Iraq all took a bite out of government finances. You could even argue that the big tax cuts Bush has passed have also helped cushion the U.S. and therefore world economy from slipping into a recession. But that still doesn't explain the huge lurch into debt. Even on non-military, non-homeland defense matters, the Bush administration enacted a 6 percent increase in government spending in 2002 and almost 5 percent in 2003. Government is growing strongly as a sector in American life - and Bush is now proposing the biggest new entitlement since Nixon: free or subsidized prescription drugs for the elderly. When you add all this up, you come to an obvious conclusion: the Bush administration is actually a big government liberal administration on fiscal policy. It likes spending money; it takes on big projects; it's quite content to borrow till the fiscal cows come home. Perhaps you could argue that Bush's deficits are designed to restrain future spending growth: but then why add another huge entitlement to the mix? And why not restrain spending now, when you can?

You can see the difference even more vividly when you compare the Africa trips of president Clinton and his successor. Clinton was lionized and loved - but he did virtually nothing on HIV and AIDS in the developing world in eight long years. Clinton did little to stop the holocaust in Rwanda; and did less to ensure adequate treatment for millions of HIV-positive Africans. Bush, in contrast, has proposed the biggest single project for treating AIDS in Africa ever put forward, garnering gushing praise from the likes of Bob Geldof and Bono, but precious little credit in the American, let alone European, press. So who's the conservative?

In foreign policy, Bush's instinct for unilateralism or bilateralism over international bodies has won him a reputation for conservatism. But the scale of his ambitions is anything but conservative. For eight years, Bill Clinton played a conservative game with regard to Middle East terror and conflict: defensive pin-prick strikes against al Qaeda, missiles in the Sudan, a peace-process in Israel, containment of Saddam. Obviously, 9/11 changed the equation dramatically. But the way in which Bush has chosen a strategic and systemic response - deposing the Taliban, ridding the world of the Saddam regime, taking on the enormous task of nation-building in Iraq, isolating the murderous mullahs in Tehran - is the mark of a radical, not a conservative. Bush is far more Gladstone than Disraeli in his approach to the developing world.

On trade, Bush speaks the right words, but has often failed to live up to them. His most notorious decision - to slap high tariffs on imported steel - has been rightly found illegal by the WTO. But Bush is appealing the judgment, thereby weakening the entire apparatus of free trade. Again, he seems to see little benefit in global arrangements designed to treat all countries equally in order to maximize trade between them. Compared to Bill Clinton, who stared down his own party's left to embrace NAFTA and the GATT, Bush is an old-style one-sector-at-a-time protectionist.

On contentious domestic matters, Bush is also no hardline right-winger. In his term of office, there has been no attempt to restrict the number of abortions in America; and the Supreme Court has ratified affirmative action and constitutionalized gay privacy. Bush actually supported the Court's affirmative action ruling and has stayed mum on gay issues, for fear of alienating either the center or his religious right base. In both areas, his policies are very hard to distinguish from his predecessor's - who also supported modest affirmative action and only rhetorically backed gay equality. Sure, Bush has named some worrying fire-breathers to the lower courts. But my hunch is that his Supreme Court pick (if he ever makes one) will be firmly centrist. All in all: the record is socially moderate.

In some ways, Bush is the JFK to Clinton's Eisenhower. After eight long years of fiscal sobriety and foreign policy caution, a young aristocratic president, after a knife-edge victory, cuts taxes and throws American weight around in the world. He has a global vision and some wonderful wordsmiths to craft it. He seems to care less about balanced budgets than moving the economy forward; he's less concerned about the minutiae of intelligence estimates than the broad moral and strategic case for intervention abroad. His typical action is risk-taking - like the war in Iraq or the two big tax cuts. Perhaps his policy mix, like that of many others', is merely a blend of opportunism and gut instinct.

More likely, Bush's conservatism is of a type that is simply more comfortable with the power of government than conservatives usually are. He certainly has little hesitation in using it for conservative ends. That makes sense for Bush, a man who was used to walking around the White House corridors long before he ever won the presidency. To more small-government types and libertarians, it's distressing. To Bush, it's merely full speed ahead. Meanwhile, the government he hands off to his successor will be bigger, more expensive and far more powerful in its anti-terror powers than anything he inherited. Whatever else that is, it's hardly a conservative achievement.


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To: DoughtyOne
Bush has a thin Republican majority in the Senate. Also, the Rhinos are not backing Bush consistently. You can compare Bush to Reagan. Bush does not have a working majority.
21 posted on 07/21/2003 9:03:31 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: poet
Boy there is a lot of cynicism in this thread.

First, no one is arguing that Reagan did it too--that's not the argument. It is, rather, that Reagan's approach to government, tax cuts, and world affairs defined modern conservatism. If you accept that proposition, then Bush falls within the parameters.

Second, politics is the art of the possible. It requires consensus to do anything. Are we suddenly forgetting that until half a year ago, Bush had a Democrat Senate, or that even now, given all the RINOs in the place, he only has a nominally Republican one? These RINOs, mostly northeastern Republicans, seem generally impervious to conservative, or even Republican appeals to common sense, party loyalty, or anything else. A leader can only lead as far as people--in this case, legislators--are willing to or can be induced to follow.

My own view is that Bush has had the deck stacked against him from day one. Given that, the tax cuts and the projection of American force have been huge successes. As for prescription drugs, it's surprising to me to hear people suddenly coughing in the audience when the consensus during the presidential campaign, from every contender from all sides, was that it had to be enacted. Why is anyone surprised now that we have a president who keeps his campaign promises?

You talk about virginity and prostitution. I don't know that I want to assent to the metaphor, but I will say that sometimes the insistence on absolute virginical purity is a little too otherworldly for democracy.
22 posted on 07/21/2003 9:04:02 PM PDT by publius1 (Almost as if he likes it...)
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To: america-rules
Are you saying that a conservative would be moving to privatize Medicare, rather than expanding the entitlement?
23 posted on 07/21/2003 9:04:04 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: america-rules
bump
24 posted on 07/21/2003 9:04:18 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Reagan sure as heck did not have a working majority either....
25 posted on 07/21/2003 9:04:46 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: publius1
Leading up to the election there were plenty of heated debates as to whether Bush was for small gubmint or not. He is fulfilling his promise to ride the center. This should not surprise anyone.
26 posted on 07/21/2003 9:07:08 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (pro-rock.com - bsnn.net - libertyteeth.com - BFD - Puff Puff Ping)
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To: Joe Bonforte
You don't think Gore screwing up the aftermath of 9-11 is a problem? May I remind you 3000 Americans died on American soil. That is the most important issue. Medicare, education etc mean nothing compared to national security. I flew recently; Personally, I would prefer tighter security. I prefer inconvenience to being blown up by 14th century Islamic murderers. You reason like .... (thinking of good insult)a Democrat.
27 posted on 07/21/2003 9:08:18 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: publius1
If he nominates Bork to the SCOTUS and does what it takes to get him in then I will call him a Conservative but please, only after he wins his second term.
28 posted on 07/21/2003 9:10:40 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: america-rules

ROFL! Geez, you're an arrogant jerk.

No, the case is not "closed"

Now, again... this is a spending spree that would make a liberal blush. It's not necessary and the only reason he's doing it is in the hopes of pandering his butt back into the oval office for 4 more years.

29 posted on 07/21/2003 9:11:56 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Stew Padasso
He is fulfilling his promise to ride the center.

Increasing the size of government spending from 18.4% of national GDP in 2000 to between 22-23% of national GDP in 2004 is neither small gubmint nor centrist; it's big gubmint....

30 posted on 07/21/2003 9:12:09 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: publius1
To me, it's odd that the question is being raised now, and not during the last presidential campaign, when President Bush made promises about tax cuts and prescription drugs.

Excuse me. It WAS raised frequently and fiercely here on FR and is documented hopefully forever in stone in the archives of FreeRepublic. So there. Told ya so. Bush == Socialism Lite. Neener. Neener. :-P

31 posted on 07/21/2003 9:13:56 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: AntiGuv
"Are you saying that a conservative would be moving to privatize Medicare, rather than expanding the entitlement? "

I think we should but lets be honest the Senate is very weak to privatize anything. Here are just a few issues they are fighting:

Military out-sourcing
Social Security
Homeland security

I think Bush would approve/sign any bill that made it to him that did any of the above if Congress sent it to him - no liberal would !

32 posted on 07/21/2003 9:17:03 PM PDT by america-rules (I'm one proud American right now !)
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To: Jhoffa_
You miss the point. Reagan spent money because it was neccessary to defeat communism. As it turned out, few can argue with the results. Bush must spend money on the military-defending our country. You may not like eudcation and medicare spending, but many voters do. Bush needs to get re-elected. This is political reality. I wish I lived in a perfect world (of course everyone would agree with me completely), but I don't. Therefore, I am realistic. Personally, I think medicare should cover prescription drugs. Does your insurance policy cover prescriptions. Medicare is not free. People pay a premium. I would not buy insurance that doesn't cover prescriptions, and I don't expect seasoned citizens to either.
33 posted on 07/21/2003 9:18:38 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Jhoffa_
PS: For the sake of brevity, let me just go ahead and cover all the bases now.

"He HAS to do it, don't you see?"

"It's all a 'master plan'"

"Well, you shouldn't have voted for him."

"Well, a vote for anyone else is a vote for algor"

"He's "stealing" issues from the Dems!"

"But, but.. Reagan did it too!"

"You're nothing but a Bush hater and probably a DU plant!"

"But, he looks great in a flight suit."

"It's not his fault. If they wouldn't send him those bills, then he wouldn't have to sign them."

"But, it's what the people want! He's everyones President now you know.. So it's now his obligation to spend like a liberal. "

34 posted on 07/21/2003 9:20:11 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Jhoffa_
"ROFL! Geez, you're an arrogant jerk."

No I'm not. You are ignorant on the subject and nothing you have stated on this thread has shown me otherwise.

You stated a lie that medicare was free when it is not free !

Also, prescription drugs aren't free with any of the bills now in conference.

Your comeback is?

35 posted on 07/21/2003 9:20:59 PM PDT by america-rules (I'm one proud American right now !)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Bush = Socialism Lite? Neener neener? O come on. You can do better than that (I hope). How about, "My mother says it's true so it's true," or "penis-head, penis-head"?

Just trying to be helpful.
36 posted on 07/21/2003 9:21:36 PM PDT by publius1 (Almost as if he likes it...)
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To: AntiGuv
I agree which is why he compromised when he had too-just as President Bush must.
37 posted on 07/21/2003 9:21:43 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
"You miss the point. Reagan spent money because it was neccessary to defeat communism. As it turned out, few can argue with the results. Bush must spend money on the military-defending our country. You may not like eudcation and medicare spending, but many voters do. Bush needs to get re-elected. This is political reality. I wish I lived in a perfect world (of course everyone would agree with me completely), but I don't. Therefore, I am realistic. Personally, I think medicare should cover prescription drugs. Does your insurance policy cover prescriptions. Medicare is not free. People pay a premium. I would not buy insurance that doesn't cover prescriptions, and I don't expect seasoned citizens to either"

YOU get IT !

38 posted on 07/21/2003 9:22:19 PM PDT by america-rules (I'm one proud American right now !)
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To: nyconse
Here we go.. "He has to do it" "I want someone else to pay for my drugs!" "It's okay if he spends like a liberal, so long as he get's re-elected"

This is just disgraceful..

If Clinton had proposed this, every single freeper here would be calling him a dirtbag socalist for it.

What a "Rose Garden" moment this is for FR.

39 posted on 07/21/2003 9:23:38 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: america-rules
Who is fighting on the issue of Social Security? I haven't noticed Bush having a reform bill introduced in the Congress. As for Homeland Security, the new HS Dept. is larger than the sum of its constituent parts, so I hardly see where there's any fight to reduce government there. If anything, it's expanding exponentially.

I'm not that familiar with the military outsourcing debate, except to ask: (a) wouldn't the government still pay for outsourced military contracts; (b) is that really much of a hotbutton issue; and (c) why would a Democrat veto that?

Otherwise, the military is the one sphere where I'm inclined to oppose privatization, to say the least.. Though, perhaps I need more info before I make any definitive judgment.

40 posted on 07/21/2003 9:24:16 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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