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Is President Bush A Conservative--Sullivan's Question
Andrewsullivan.com ^ | July 21, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/21/2003 8:14:50 PM PDT by publius1

The Liberal Within Is Bush A Conservative?

Is president Bush a conservative?

It may sound like a stupid question but the dizzying mix of policies that this president has pursued - domestically and in foreign affairs -is surprisingly immune to coherent ideological analysis. Where it does seem to make sense, it certainly doesn't look like the classical conservatism of the Regagan-Thatcher years, or the revolutionary conservatism of the Gingrich period. And in some critical ways, it's far less traditionally conservative than the administration of Bill Clinton.

Take a couple of obvious differences between this administration and the last. The Clinton years will rightly go down as a period of intense fiscal sobriety. The president wasn't solely responsible for this: he was backed into a balanced budget (and then surpluses) by a Republican Congress. But the spending record of the Clintonites was extremely tight. Compare that to the Bush record. In a mere two years, this administration has turned an annual surplus of $167 billion into an annual deficit of over $400 billion. In 2001, the projected fiscal future until 2008 was estimated at accumulating $2.9 trillion of surplus - room to tackle the baby-boomer retirement crunch. Last week's White House estimates of the same future period showed a projected increase in government debt at $1.9 trillion. In other words, the Bushies have added a projected extra $4.8 trillion in debt to the U.S. government. In two short years.

Some of this was hardly Bush's fault. The economic impact of 9/11, the sluggish world economy, and expensive wars in Afghanistan and now Iraq all took a bite out of government finances. You could even argue that the big tax cuts Bush has passed have also helped cushion the U.S. and therefore world economy from slipping into a recession. But that still doesn't explain the huge lurch into debt. Even on non-military, non-homeland defense matters, the Bush administration enacted a 6 percent increase in government spending in 2002 and almost 5 percent in 2003. Government is growing strongly as a sector in American life - and Bush is now proposing the biggest new entitlement since Nixon: free or subsidized prescription drugs for the elderly. When you add all this up, you come to an obvious conclusion: the Bush administration is actually a big government liberal administration on fiscal policy. It likes spending money; it takes on big projects; it's quite content to borrow till the fiscal cows come home. Perhaps you could argue that Bush's deficits are designed to restrain future spending growth: but then why add another huge entitlement to the mix? And why not restrain spending now, when you can?

You can see the difference even more vividly when you compare the Africa trips of president Clinton and his successor. Clinton was lionized and loved - but he did virtually nothing on HIV and AIDS in the developing world in eight long years. Clinton did little to stop the holocaust in Rwanda; and did less to ensure adequate treatment for millions of HIV-positive Africans. Bush, in contrast, has proposed the biggest single project for treating AIDS in Africa ever put forward, garnering gushing praise from the likes of Bob Geldof and Bono, but precious little credit in the American, let alone European, press. So who's the conservative?

In foreign policy, Bush's instinct for unilateralism or bilateralism over international bodies has won him a reputation for conservatism. But the scale of his ambitions is anything but conservative. For eight years, Bill Clinton played a conservative game with regard to Middle East terror and conflict: defensive pin-prick strikes against al Qaeda, missiles in the Sudan, a peace-process in Israel, containment of Saddam. Obviously, 9/11 changed the equation dramatically. But the way in which Bush has chosen a strategic and systemic response - deposing the Taliban, ridding the world of the Saddam regime, taking on the enormous task of nation-building in Iraq, isolating the murderous mullahs in Tehran - is the mark of a radical, not a conservative. Bush is far more Gladstone than Disraeli in his approach to the developing world.

On trade, Bush speaks the right words, but has often failed to live up to them. His most notorious decision - to slap high tariffs on imported steel - has been rightly found illegal by the WTO. But Bush is appealing the judgment, thereby weakening the entire apparatus of free trade. Again, he seems to see little benefit in global arrangements designed to treat all countries equally in order to maximize trade between them. Compared to Bill Clinton, who stared down his own party's left to embrace NAFTA and the GATT, Bush is an old-style one-sector-at-a-time protectionist.

On contentious domestic matters, Bush is also no hardline right-winger. In his term of office, there has been no attempt to restrict the number of abortions in America; and the Supreme Court has ratified affirmative action and constitutionalized gay privacy. Bush actually supported the Court's affirmative action ruling and has stayed mum on gay issues, for fear of alienating either the center or his religious right base. In both areas, his policies are very hard to distinguish from his predecessor's - who also supported modest affirmative action and only rhetorically backed gay equality. Sure, Bush has named some worrying fire-breathers to the lower courts. But my hunch is that his Supreme Court pick (if he ever makes one) will be firmly centrist. All in all: the record is socially moderate.

In some ways, Bush is the JFK to Clinton's Eisenhower. After eight long years of fiscal sobriety and foreign policy caution, a young aristocratic president, after a knife-edge victory, cuts taxes and throws American weight around in the world. He has a global vision and some wonderful wordsmiths to craft it. He seems to care less about balanced budgets than moving the economy forward; he's less concerned about the minutiae of intelligence estimates than the broad moral and strategic case for intervention abroad. His typical action is risk-taking - like the war in Iraq or the two big tax cuts. Perhaps his policy mix, like that of many others', is merely a blend of opportunism and gut instinct.

More likely, Bush's conservatism is of a type that is simply more comfortable with the power of government than conservatives usually are. He certainly has little hesitation in using it for conservative ends. That makes sense for Bush, a man who was used to walking around the White House corridors long before he ever won the presidency. To more small-government types and libertarians, it's distressing. To Bush, it's merely full speed ahead. Meanwhile, the government he hands off to his successor will be bigger, more expensive and far more powerful in its anti-terror powers than anything he inherited. Whatever else that is, it's hardly a conservative achievement.


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To: Joe Bonforte
"Now you conservatives go ahead and tell me how Gore would have been worse. Well, except for probably munging up the aftermath of 9/11, I don't see how he could have been."

And you know, that's the only thing that matters. And he would have munged it up (I have now idea what that word is, I will look it up tomorrow, I hope I changed it properly - whatever that other special word is, for changing it, you know!). Bush has maybe munged it up a good deal, with all this religion of peace yadda-yadda and no restriction on immigration, but Gore would have sent the $10000 missile into the $10 tent, hit the camel in the *ss and called it a day. Then gone back to wringing his hands over some perceived slight by some woman or black guy somewhere.

So, you know, Bush ain't gonna be the George W. of the culture wars, this disappoints me too. But he IS going to try and stop evil people from killing us, and that IS his primary responsibility as pres. So I, for one, will happily voter for him again, and my kid will proudly cast her first vote for him too.

41 posted on 07/21/2003 9:25:47 PM PDT by jocon307 (Or do you really want a Dem in the White House, never again in my lifetime!)
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To: nyconse
Difference being, Reagan compromises look a whole lot like conservative policy, whereas Bush compromises look a whole lot like liberal policy:


42 posted on 07/21/2003 9:25:58 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: publius1
My daughter just called my son a penis head-washed her mouth out with soap-got stuck in her teeth-yuck. LOL
43 posted on 07/21/2003 9:27:05 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: america-rules

You most certainly are. And you're grasping at straws.

I quoted the article. it said "free or subsidized"

Re-read it.

You're damn right they aren't.. They come with a 400 Billion (that's BILLION, with a "B" dollar price tag. Your comeback is?

LOL!

You're all over the map trying to defend this thing.. You can't.

It's not conservative. It's a handout. Pandering.

And it's shameful. You should be ashamed, and if you had any sense, you would be. And your argument is?

44 posted on 07/21/2003 9:29:59 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: AntiGuv
I can't seem to recall at the moment - when was the last time Bush vetoed a spending bill?

If Bush is not prone to vetoing spending bills, then the Congress should hve no problem making big spending cuts.

45 posted on 07/21/2003 9:30:55 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Jhoffa_
If anyone seriously thinks the real pricetag will be $400 billion then I've got a bridge to sell. Bet on $800 billion, and that's a conservative estimate (i.e. not OMB or CBO accounting)....
46 posted on 07/21/2003 9:32:15 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
Where's the part about the huge deficits in that chart?
47 posted on 07/21/2003 9:32:35 PM PDT by Consort
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To: AntiGuv
Can you even believe this?
48 posted on 07/21/2003 9:33:09 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Jhoffa_
You are misinformed. In both medicare bills, subscribers pay. The drugs are not free. Maybe you are unfamiliar with the details of the medicare prescription plan? Bush supported a medicare prescription drug plan during his campaign. Did you watch the debates?
49 posted on 07/21/2003 9:33:11 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: publius1
Personally, I like Bush, but when he breaks from the right, I'm not sure he's doing it for political reasons, or, if deep down, he's a sort of bleeding heart republican.
50 posted on 07/21/2003 9:33:34 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: AntiGuv
Oh, that's okay.. It's still a bargain at 800 Billion.

Anything! Whatever they want, it's not enough! I'm a (ahem) "conservative" and I just want my subsidized drugs!

51 posted on 07/21/2003 9:35:01 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: america-rules
Bump
52 posted on 07/21/2003 9:35:35 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Consort
Bush is the president, is he not? Do you want a president who leads or one who follows? Reagan didn't follow...

In any event, Bush would almost surely veto big spending cuts since that might discombobulate some interest group he's wooing...

I guess since Congress has never sent him a big spending cut - and Bush has never asked for one, much less made a decision on signing one - then we'll never know for sure...
53 posted on 07/21/2003 9:35:57 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Consort
Where's the part about the huge deficits in that chart?

For Reagan they're obviously not in the discretionary spending since the discretionary spending is where all the liberal pork goes, and Reagan being a conservative cut discretionary spending, unlike Bush who's increased it.

The Reagan deficits were primarily a consequence of demographic growth in the socialist entitlement programs alongside the necessary, and very conservative, military defense spending. Moreover, Reagan did not expand socialist entitlement programs at the drop of a poll - unlike Bush.

54 posted on 07/21/2003 9:39:49 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: nyconse

Only our 40 Million Seniors are going to pay 400, BILLION for this subsidy? No one else, no tax dollars involved..

Right?

55 posted on 07/21/2003 9:40:18 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: publius1
Thus far, the evidence suggests Dubya is a social conservative AND fiscal liberal.
56 posted on 07/21/2003 9:41:54 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: nyconse
This is smaller Government and you support this, I suppose?

Since, obviously tax dollars aren't going to be used and you're going to provide a link to prove this to me..

Right?

57 posted on 07/21/2003 9:42:36 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: F16Fighter

I wouldn't even go so far as the "Social Conservative" end of it.

AWB, Steel Tariffs, not backing the marriage amendment, amnesty..

There's just not allot that's "Conservative" at all about this guy.

He's a military hawk and a tax cutter, I suppose that counts for something.

58 posted on 07/21/2003 9:45:00 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: AntiGuv
Soon, I am going to get a check for $1200-thanks to a Bush tax cut. He has cut taxes every year. He is waging a just war against terrorism. I think we are finally going to get a ban on partial vote abortion- a big deal for me. The glass is half full. No President will ever please you in every way. What is the alternative in 2004? Perhaps you will sit home and not vote (might as well vote for a Dem). I can't imagine you would actually vote for a Dem. maybe you will vote for an obscure third party candidate (might as well vote Dem). What is your solution?
59 posted on 07/21/2003 9:45:07 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: publius1
"I don't know that I want to assent to the metaphor, but I will say that sometimes the insistence on absolute virginical purity is a little too otherworldly for democracy."

I'm not asking for anything except that he stop his pandering to the special interest groups, stop his obscene spending, stop his presenting & signing draconian laws that will bite Americans in the @ss IN THE FUTURE! I also want him to honor his sworn oath to uphold the Constitution ( I know that other Pres have done the same thing and that doesn't make it right).

The Bushinistas are no different than the clinton apologists when they defend the indefnsible. Bush is not a conservative, never was, never will be, except when it comes time for re-election, however, this time it will not wash with Constitutional Conservatives.

I stand by the metaphor.

Once again, I suggest that those of you who think he's a shoo-in for '04 tone done the arrogance because there just may be another jerk like perot hiding in the woodpile. Don't forget, the slimy clintons got into power with just 43-45% of the popular vote, however, they got the key state's electoral votes.

There are three certanties in life: Death, Taxes and Betrayal by people you trusted, which is to say, politicians.

FReegards


60 posted on 07/21/2003 9:45:53 PM PDT by poet
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