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Mr. Ray Sues, Claiming 'Finding Nemo' Stole His Name
AP ^ | July 22, 2003

Posted on 07/22/2003 2:44:23 PM PDT by Shermy

NORTH BRUNSWICK, N.J. -- Will the real Mr. Ray please stand up?

On the big screen, it's the name of the manta ray in the animated movie "Finding Nemo."

In real life, he's Ray Yodlowsky, a children's musician known as Mr. Ray.

The flesh-and-bones version is not taking the coincidence lying down. Yodlowsky has filed a $10 million trademark infringement lawsuit against the Walt Disney Company and Pixar Animation Studios, claiming the manta ray character is causing confusion among his fans.

Yodlowsky said that some of his fans expected him to be dressed as a manta ray at a recent appearance.

"It's weird," he said. "I'm a human ... that's a manta ray. People must be thinking I'm nuts. But it's my future, and who knows what plans they have for their Mr. Ray? Believe you me, children remember all the minor and secondary characters from those movies."

In the movie, the manta ray plays a schoolteacher who helps a father fish search for his son.

A representative for Pixar declined comment, and attempts to reach Disney were unsuccessful.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: nemo

Mr. Ray has a website:

MrRay.com

1 posted on 07/22/2003 2:44:24 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
But it's my future, and who knows what plans they have for their Mr. Ray?

If he keeps this up, Mr. Ray will turn out to be a child molester in Finding Nemo II.

2 posted on 07/22/2003 2:46:15 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Shermy
He should just rename himself "Mr. Frivilous Lawsuit."
3 posted on 07/22/2003 2:47:29 PM PDT by dead
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To: Shermy
I went to the Mr. Ray website. His guitar scares me.

4 posted on 07/22/2003 2:48:11 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Tip your server...)
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To: Shermy
The guy is an idiot!
5 posted on 07/22/2003 2:48:29 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Shermy
Sounds like Spike Lee has some competition in the "gold digging moron" award.
6 posted on 07/22/2003 2:48:30 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Sloth
"Funding Nemo"
7 posted on 07/22/2003 2:48:44 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Giving Cathryn Crawford The Bird Since 2003)
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To: Shermy
He'll never win. Look what Disney got away with re: "The Lion King."

The lifted the ENTIRE story from that Japanese animation show "Kimba The White Lion."

I watched "Kimba" as a child, and when I saw a video of it in the store I picked it up for my own kids. I was shocked at how similar the stories were, but Disney stole even more than just the plot. The characters...even the character's names were lifted.

It was a disgrace and one of the worst examples of plagiarism I've ever seen. The "Kimba" creators should have won their suit hands down, but they didn't.

Regards,
8 posted on 07/22/2003 2:49:02 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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9 posted on 07/22/2003 2:49:19 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Shermy
The ironic thing is they weren't originally going to use a manta ray, but instead a sting ray. But they decided the name might cause problems with:


10 posted on 07/22/2003 2:49:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: VermiciousKnid; Shermy
BTW...I do think that Mr. Ray's lawsuit is silly and will be thrown out.

11 posted on 07/22/2003 2:50:50 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: socal_parrot
I wouldn’t let this guy within a hundred yards of my kids:

We strum it up and down, of course.....

12 posted on 07/22/2003 2:51:39 PM PDT by dead
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To: pokerbuddy0; Badabing Badaboom; Fred Mertz; okie01; Mitchell; Allan; aristeides; Battle Axe; ...
Ray goes by the name of "Ray Anderson"
For Example: http://nbs.gmnews.com/News/2000/0407/School/s002.html

Ray lives in North Brunswick, next door to Franklin Park, New Jersey. N. Brunswick shares the zip code actually used on the Daschle letter.

Hmm...Ray played with Meatloaf. If he takes up with Neil Young for the "Greendale" album tour, I'm calling the FBI. ;)
13 posted on 07/22/2003 2:52:13 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: VermiciousKnid
You're dead on. Disney ripped off "Kimba". There's web pages about it - here's one:

http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
14 posted on 07/22/2003 3:05:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Anyone from the DC metropolitan area remember those commercials for Mr. Ray's Invisible Hair Re-Weave back in the '80's? ("Our whole lives have changed!")

Maybe THAT Mr. Ray should sue Ray Anderson.
15 posted on 07/22/2003 3:06:20 PM PDT by mrs. a
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To: Shermy
Sorry - I meant Mr. Yodlowsky, not Mr. Anderson.

One-a them days...
16 posted on 07/22/2003 3:07:35 PM PDT by mrs. a
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To: Shermy
Does he have alot of plastic boxes with snap-lock lids filled with sweaters? We find that out, we're on our way...
17 posted on 07/22/2003 3:08:55 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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For years there was a local TV commercial in Baltimore by "Mr Ray". He sold wigs and hairpieces for men and women. He did the commercials himself and the self-parody sold a lot of wigs.



18 posted on 07/22/2003 3:09:15 PM PDT by catonsville
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To: dead
Or how 'bout...

"Hey mr. RAY...check out my tongue!"

19 posted on 07/22/2003 3:12:47 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Tip your server...)
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What in the name of Kookla, Fran and Ollie is going on on the Mr. Ray Website?


20 posted on 07/22/2003 3:15:26 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Tip your server...)
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To: socal_parrot
The space program really has gone downhill since the Challenger.
21 posted on 07/22/2003 3:29:13 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Shermy; VermiciousKnid
Dang, they did rip 'em off! Wow, that's just crazy!
22 posted on 07/22/2003 3:42:44 PM PDT by 4mycountry (Over-achiever extraordinare!)
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To: Shermy
But at Moorestown High School, New Jersey, the determination of one star student to finish top of her class has enraged her peers and led to a $2.7 million (£1.7 million) federal lawsuit. Blair Hornstine, a formidably intelligent and hard-working 18-year-old, sued for damages after being told she must share a top student award with a high-achieving rival who scored slightly lower marks in end-of-school tests. Even in a society as notoriously litigious as America, the case of Blair L. Hornstine vs Moorestown Board of Education has raised eyebrows. Ms Hornstine's school career is a glittering tale of accomplishment, prizes and praise.

I wonder if he knows these people?

23 posted on 07/22/2003 4:44:08 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Shermy
I had no idea that so many others had noticed this. In fact, my brother and I (and of course our parents) are the only ones I know who remember Kimba at all.

I'm glad to see that others are as upset as I am. I am not, however, surprised; Disney is not exactly my idea of a company with many morals, no matter how they sugarcoat their image.

Regards,
24 posted on 07/22/2003 6:21:31 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: catonsville
For years there was a local TV commercial in Baltimore by "Mr Ray". He sold wigs and hairpieces for men and women. He did the commercials himself and the self-parody sold a lot of wigs.

Mr. Ray's Hair-Weave. That was who I was thinking of when I clicked on the story.

I remember Mr. Ray’s commercials from my youth (being highly Caucasian, I didn’t even know what a hair weave was)

BTW: can anybody tell me where Caucasia is – I would like to trace my roots.

25 posted on 07/22/2003 6:37:49 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Shermy
coming soon on SpikeTV
26 posted on 07/22/2003 6:40:03 PM PDT by breakem
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To: A CA Guy; Shermy
Guy's no idiot. You know they stole the "Lion King," concept, too. They are paying off handsomely. As they probably should.
27 posted on 07/22/2003 6:45:19 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Shermy
You can call me Ray, or you call me Jay, but you doesn't have to call me Johnson.
28 posted on 07/22/2003 6:45:29 PM PDT by TBall (Tuesday July 22, 2003 is tomorrow.)
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To: TBall
Fix.
29 posted on 07/22/2003 6:46:27 PM PDT by TBall (Tuesday July 22, 2003 is today.)
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To: Last Visible Dog
The Caucasus region includes Georgia, Azerbaijan and the once-glorious Armenia.


30 posted on 07/22/2003 7:35:14 PM PDT by PianoMan (Ignore anything I post after midnight)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Calling a manta-ray Mr. Ray is not a big leap.
You could call a goldfish Mr Gold also, but some jerk may have that name and might be asked to put on a fish costume.

You might have a Hammer Shark called Hammer and of course that would be an infringement on MC Hammer...

They are full of it and I would hope Disney takes pleasure in breaking them in legal fees.
31 posted on 07/22/2003 10:03:01 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: VermiciousKnid
My Japanese wife saw it was stolen from Kimba. Personally I never saw Kimba, or if I did it made no impression.
32 posted on 07/22/2003 10:18:07 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (20 years in the Navy; never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: Kenny Bunk
In fact, unless something has happened over only the last two years, Disney has NOT paid any money for plagairising "Kimba The White Lion."

But you are correct when you say they should.

Regards,
33 posted on 07/23/2003 4:58:45 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: mrs. a
Anyone from the DC metropolitan area remember those commercials for Mr. Ray's Invisible Hair Re-Weave back in the '80's? ("Our whole lives have changed!")

LOL! That's who I thought of first when I read the headline!
34 posted on 07/23/2003 5:00:15 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: VermiciousKnid
plagairising=plagiarising.
35 posted on 07/23/2003 5:00:23 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid
I'm not normally a fan of Disney's crass marketing and domination of the entertainment industry, but anybody stupid enough to take on Disney's lawyers with such an obvious attemp to extort money with this frivilous drivel deserves the whuppin' they are all but certain to receive in court.
36 posted on 07/23/2003 5:16:18 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Exercise your right to vote, or they'll take that one too!)
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To: VermiciousKnid
Dear Mr. Knid:

I too remember Kimba The White Lion. I could not recall any real similarities between Kimba and The Lion King so I went to the offical Kimba website and got this synopsis:

Africa, mid-20th century. In the face of the inexorable encroachment of mankind, a white lion, Caesar, seeks to change things: he wants to give all wild animals a safe haven, free from fear of man and free from fear of each other. And, to a very large degree, he is successful. His one mistake: he liberates the cattle from nearby villages.

A professional hunter, Viper Snakely, is called in to stop these raids. His genius is to avoid directly attacking Caesar--this tactic has never worked for any hunter. Instead, Snakely uses the devotion Caesar and his mate, Snowene, share.

Snakely tape-records the sounds of Caesar and uses that as bait to trap Snowene. Snowene then becomes bait herself in a trap for Caesar. Caesar is killed, and the pregnant Snowene is shipped off, destined for some zoo.

Kimba is born while Snowene is on the ship. She teaches him his father's ideals which he puts into practice almost immediately, befriending the mice on board the ship. A huge storm wrecks the ship, leaving Kimba floundering in the ocean. The benevolence of the fish help him to survive and learn to swim.

With his mother encouraging him from Beyond, and guided by butterflies, Kimba makes it back to land.

Kimba lands far from his ancestral home, and is found and cared for by some people. Ever the quick learner, Kimba notices the benefits of the good parts of human culture, and makes up his mind that when he returns to his wild home he will not only seek to continue his father's peaceful animal kingdom, he will expand it with what he has learned.

The show follows Kimba's life after he returns to the wild (still a young cub) and shows his learning and growing during the next year. One thing Kimba soon learns and incorporates into his vision is that true peace will require communication and mutual understanding with the ever-more-present humans.

Not seeing a lot of The Lion King in that. Characters are another matter.

Kimba - The white lion with the dream.
Kitty - Kimba's lady love.
Dan'l Baboon - Kimba's mentor and advisor.
Pauley Cracker - A parrot who had also spent some time living with humans. He thought he should be Kimba's mentor and advisor. Zazoo?
Caesar - Kimba's father (dead)
Snowene - Kimba's mother
Claw - The local villain lion; wants Kimba out of the picture. (Looks a lot like Scar)
Tom and Tab - Hyenas. Comic relief from the dark side.

Okay, they may have lifted some of the characters. ;-)

37 posted on 07/23/2003 5:16:38 AM PDT by Crusher138 (crush her? I don't even know her!)
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To: WestPacSailor
Oh, I agree about this "Mr. Ray" person's lawsuit being frivolous!

The Kimba/Lion King situation is different.

Regards,
38 posted on 07/23/2003 7:01:56 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid
Yeah, the Kimba/Lion King thing does seem pretty much a blatant rip off to me too.
39 posted on 07/23/2003 7:32:20 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Exercise your right to vote, or they'll take that one too!)
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