To: Dahoser; egarvue
I thought I had read that in the Catholic faith, the Passion ended with the crucifiction, and that the movie would end there as well. But the review from the man who's seen it says "and resurrection."
For my Catholic Brothers and Sisters: Does the Passion include the resurrection, or does it end with the Crucifiction?
To: TontoKowalski
You know, that is an excellent question. As a Catholic I haven't distinguished the two in my mind. It is distinguished in the gospels. Your question would make a good meditation for me to think about what the Apostles dealt with at His death and the ~finality~ of the tomb. How did Peter feel and what did remember about Christ stating that the temple would be torn down and rebuilt in three days. Our Blessed Mother's loss, Judas' greed and relativism, and all of them wandering in the shock and fear of this horrible torture. I can imagine Satan's fear and abject grovelling before the King who descends to announce the end of its reign on earth.
There is a whole lot to your question!
13 posted on
07/23/2003 6:07:47 AM PDT by
OpusatFR
(Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
To: TontoKowalski
Does the Passion include the resurrection, "Passion" means "suffering," so I would think that ends with the crucifixion. Whether that's true of the movie, I can't say.
17 posted on
07/23/2003 7:15:43 AM PDT by
Tax-chick
(I'm a right wingnut, I admit it!)
To: TontoKowalski
The sufferings of Our Lord, which culminated in His death upon the cross, seem to have been conceived of as one inseparable whole from a very early period. Even in the Acts of the Apostles (i, 3) St. Luke speaks of those to whom Christ "shewed himself alive after his passion" (meta to mathein autou). In the Vulgate this has been rendered post passionem suam, and not only the Reims Testament but the Anglican Authorized and Revised Versions, as well as the medieval English translation attributed to Wyclif, have retained the word "passion" in English. Passio also meets us in the same sense in other early writings (e.g. Tertullian, "Adv. Marcion.", IV, 40) and the word was clearly in common use in the middle of the third century ...From the "Catholic Encyclopedia" at newadvent.org . Note that Protestants use the word in the same sense as Catholics, to refer to the physical and spiritual sufferings of Our Lord.
18 posted on
07/23/2003 7:23:35 AM PDT by
Tax-chick
(I'm a right wingnut, I admit it!)
To: TontoKowalski
For my Catholic Brothers and Sisters: Does the Passion include the resurrection, or does it end with the Crucifiction? Not usually. Versions from two different Gospels are read on Passion (Palm) Sunday and on Good Friday. The Resurrection is not proclaimed until the Easter Vigil.
So if it truly is a "Passion" play, it should end with the Crucifixion. This would make it suitable for Lenten reflection, which I imagine is the point of the undertaking.
SD
To: TontoKowalski
The Passion is performed on Palm Sunday which is also called Passion Sunday. The resurrection cannot be part of it because Easter is still a week away.
22 posted on
07/23/2003 9:12:35 AM PDT by
Dahoser
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