Manchester United begins US assault

BBC ^ | 24 July, 2003 | David Willis

[lambo]

I'm posting this because I enjoy the feeding frenzy generated here by football (i.e., soccer) threads.

I have eleventh-row seats for the Man. Utd.-Juventus match July 31 at the Meadowlands.

[RoughDobermann]

Both boys play in their school soccer team, and believe the sport is growing in popularity

I certainly hope it is, but I doubt it. The last big "soccer is the new national pastime" was what, ten years ago? It's a girls sport anyway... Just thought I'd get that out of the way for those that are coming...

[What Is Ain't]

Lucky u. I scanned their sites hoping to see something in the midwest but - nothing doing.

Enjoy, I know I would. And Juventus too! Sigh...

[discostu]

Soccer has the same problem in America that hockey has (I'm a big hockey nut), it's too subtle and often times more skill is shown in preventing a score than in scoring. Americans (by and large) have no patience for 1-0 sporting events. Baseball occassion runs into the same problem, ask your average fan what they think of pitching duels, most hate them. Anybody that enjoy a pitching duel has the kind of mind it takes to be a fan of hockey or soccer.

[Snerfling]

more skill is shown in preventing a score than in scoring

I, like most Americans, find soccer boring, but I, unlike many Americans, will watch it when it involves top flight teams. Regardless of the particular sport, watching some of the world's best athletes is a treat unto itself.

[Dead Dog]

That's not necessarily true, defense is key to football, and often the most exciting side to watch. Plus, many football games are 7-0 9-0 (or 1-0 1.2-0 in metric sports).

Soccer's problem in the US is that it is a sport for women and skinny premadonas.

[Weimdog]

ManU & Celtic brought more people to Seahawk Stadium than the Seahawks ever have, almost 67,000. Sold out in 1 hour.

ManU put on a goal scoring clinic, trouncing Celtic 4-0.

I can't wait for the match this Sunday at the Collesium in LA. Got my tickets the day they went on sale.

American keeper Tim Howard is now a Red Devil...

"Howard will fly tomorrow (July 12th) to Manchester where he will take a physical, complete paperwork, and he will likely sign a contract Tuesday for a reported $1.4 annual salary plus substantial performance bonuses. He also will be given use of a home and car.

Major League Soccer will receive a reported $2 million transfer fee from Man. U., plus an additional $1.5 million should Howard become a starter."

http://www.soccertimes.com/mls/2003/jul12.htm

[Dead Dog]

"It's all about worshipping false Gods,"

I don't think the passerbye or the BBC got the joke. Pretty funny actually.

Here's You're god, Sissy Soccer Pagans!"

F_g Ball Bump

[Jay D. Dyson]

Why Soccer is Struggling in the U.S.

Nufsed.

[SoDak]

I'll watch them, but only if the Paint Drying Channel is knocked off the air.

[RoughDobermann]

I'll watch them, but only if the Paint Drying Channel is knocked off the air.

Just curious, but what sports WILL you watch?

[IYAS9YAS]

Soccer hoodlums...making football rioters look like saints for more than 30 years.

[discostu]

Ahh, you sound almost like me. I openly mock baseball and basketball, but every once in a while when I know the game is going to be good (or I've got the serious jones on) I'll flip them on. During this July duldrum when there's no football or hockey I spend a lot of time on Fox Sports World watching games I don't know and don't understand, but something about great athleticism always shines through. Many are the times I've yell "my God that was amazing" had my wife ask "what happened" and answered "I don't know, but it looked hard and he did it well".

[IYAS9YAS]

Like you style. Soccer to me is a nap looking for a place to happen. Same with baseball on T.V.

[discostu]

But football defense isn't like soccer and hockey defense, at least not the part that people notice. You know how in football you can always spot the REALLY good cornerback because nobody ever throw it to his receiver, this guy doesn't get to put up good numbers with tips and intercepts because no QB will throw near him. It's not very exciting unless you're a student of the game, but the level of skill that goes into being a CB nobody throws near FAR exceeds the level of skill necessary to make an interception. That's how defense tends to work in soccer and hockey, especially hockey now that the positional goaltender has been invented, these are guys for whom the motto is "if I'm exciting I screwed up". If you're a student of the game and can understand why the team on offense just stopped and regrouped it's great, but that doesn't sell well here.

Soccer is only a sport for skinny premadonas when bad teams are playing. They do tend to be skinny, but you run up and down a field longer than an NFL field for 90 minutes with only one break and limited substitutions and tell me how much extra weight you manage to keep. The premadonas all pretty much stink and exist solely to draw yellow cards, and the worst soccer premadona doesn't even rate compared to Randy Moss. Watch for the bloody knees, that's how you find the real soccer players.

[walkingdead]

You know Macarani and all the Irish went and watched that game.

[cyborg]

how true! the stereotype of the fat, beer guzzling american sport fantatic continues.... :-)

[Dead Dog]

I bet Macarani doesn't remember much of it.

[lambo]

That's a good page. The rest of you ought to go see it.

I just checked back in after having to take a phone call, and I must say, I'm disappointed in the low level of venom on this thread. I really expected more than the restrained and intelligent discussion I've seen so far.