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Calif. Senate OKs transgender protections (Companies MUST hire transgenders)
Yahoo ^ | July 25, 2003 | Ellen Maremont Silver

Posted on 07/26/2003 8:19:44 AM PDT by nwrep

Calif. Senate OKs transgender protections

Fri Jul 25, 8:11 PM ET
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SUMMARY: The California Senate passed a groundbreaking bill on Thursday that makes it illegal to discriminate against transgender people in housing and employment.

The California Senate passed a groundbreaking bill on Thursday that makes it illegal to discriminate against transgender people in housing and employment. AB 196 adds "gender identity or expression" to sex and other characteristics that are already protected by the state's Fair Employment and Housing Act.

The bill, passed by the Assembly in April by a 41-34 vote, now goes to Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites), who is expected to make a decision in approximately two weeks. The Senate vote was 23-11 along strict party lines: All in favor were Democrats, all opposed were Republicans.

Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, authored the bill. Equality California, the state's GLBT advocacy organization, worked closely with the five-member legislative GLBT caucus to achieve passage of the bill.

Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, one of the bill's co-authors and a caucus member, called AB 196 "a simple matter of civil rights. California law already protects against hate crimes based on gender stereotyping, and protects students and teachers from discrimination or harassment on this basis. ... We should not tolerate such arbitrary discrimination that can lead to the problems of unemployment and homelessness among those who are perceived as different."

The San Francisco Department of Public Health (news - web sites) reported 70 percent unemployment among transgender people in 1999, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

AB 196 allows employees to dress consistent with their gender identity as long as they meet reasonable workplace appearance standards. It is endorsed by more than 50 business, religious and civil rights organizations, from the California Labor Federation to the California Apartment Association. As expected, conservatives have criticized the measure.

If Davis signs the bill into law, California will join Minnesota, New Mexico and Rhode Island in explicitly prohibiting gender identity-based discrimination. Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and the District of Columbia have statutes that have been interpreted to protect transgender people in certain circumstances. No federal law protects GLBT individuals in the workplace, but activists and organizations including the Human Rights Campaign are developing one.




TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 07/26/2003 8:19:44 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
It is now up to the military to help us out of this mess.
2 posted on 07/26/2003 8:21:21 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: california; **Hawaii; *calgov2002; *Clash of Civilizatio; *Culture_War; *Education News; ...
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3 posted on 07/26/2003 8:22:28 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I am so sick of this. This is getting out of control. These leftist bastards have declared war on our culture and capitalism and the Constitution.
4 posted on 07/26/2003 8:23:45 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Oh, and to the last remaining private business in California... don't forget to turn off the lights when you leave...
5 posted on 07/26/2003 8:24:34 AM PDT by rocky88
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To: nwrep
What is the impact on the he said/she said argument?
6 posted on 07/26/2003 8:26:16 AM PDT by Consort
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To: rocky88
Oh, and to the last remaining private business in California... don't forget to turn off the lights when you leave...

Don't worry if you forget, though; Gray Davis Energy will be there to do it for you!

P.S. You probably have no idea how close you are to reality. So say my California expatriate friends.
7 posted on 07/26/2003 8:30:42 AM PDT by dufekin (Eliminate genocidical terrorist miltiary dictator Kim Jong Il now.)
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To: nwrep
I know. We are so far down the road that the people themselves-who are without any uniting belief-can't recover.
8 posted on 07/26/2003 8:33:19 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: nwrep
Are there really enough people getting their plumbing changed to tie up a State legislative body in a debate?

No wonder California is in such bad shape if all they have to do is try to protect perverts. What happened to protections for all the regular folks ?
9 posted on 07/26/2003 8:34:19 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: nwrep
Are there really enough people getting their plumbing changed to tie up a State legislative body in a debate?

No wonder California is in such bad shape if all they have to do is try to protect perverts. What happened to protections for all the regular folks ?
10 posted on 07/26/2003 8:34:23 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: nwrep
This always happens when the California Senate has passed all the budget items and other important business and has nothing else to do. Oh, wait a minute...

If this were put to a vote in California 75% of the population woule vote against it. It's the sick f--- democrats who are pushing deviancy forward.
11 posted on 07/26/2003 8:40:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: nwrep
bump
12 posted on 07/26/2003 8:40:38 AM PDT by Salman
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To: nwrep
Give liberals full throated control of government and this is what you get.

At this rate in, a few years, we'll be begging Mexico to take California.

13 posted on 07/26/2003 8:42:06 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: nwrep
AB 196 allows employees to dress consistent with their gender identity as long as they meet reasonable workplace appearance standards...

Define "reasonable..."

This is just idiotic, IMHO...the normal folks out there better get to work and oust more than just the "fruitcake" governor!!!

14 posted on 07/26/2003 8:42:19 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: sgtbono2002
Minnesota, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and the District of Columbia?

Looks like a lot of other states have their own fruitcakes and nuts and are infecting California.

15 posted on 07/26/2003 8:47:41 AM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: nwrep
This is what the slippery slope is all about. And we can look forward to much more with the Supreme Court ruling.

Remember, this freak is coming to a ladies restroom (and classroom) near you and your daughter. And if there are two of them, they'll be having sex in the stall.

16 posted on 07/26/2003 8:47:54 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: rocky88
This legislature of California is turning the state into a bad movie. Maybe the rest of America should vote the whole state out of the union and let the libs make their own country.
17 posted on 07/26/2003 8:50:27 AM PDT by The Brush
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To: nwrep
I'll bet that most transgendered folk are emotional messes. Do companies get to test their mental health before they have to hire them?

One famous sex-change case was Jan Morris (or Morrison?), a Brit travel writer and a great one. I'd volunteer to occupy the desk next to him....er, her...At least our chats would be interesting.
19 posted on 07/26/2003 8:56:51 AM PDT by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the CORRUPT liberal media)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
It is now up to the military to help us out of this mess.

How? Close the California borders? Bomb the place off the planet? Declare independence for them...the sovereign country of California?

This is the modern day equivalent of fiddling while Rome burned.

20 posted on 07/26/2003 8:58:32 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: nwrep
How about a law requiring every lawmaker who voted for this to hire a tranvestite/transexual as a press secretary.

Let see how they like it.
21 posted on 07/26/2003 9:00:24 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: nwrep

I bet the plumber's union put them up to this as a way of stimulating new restroom construction in office buildings. I've seen this movie, and I know that the women will not accept "her" in their bathroom, and the men don't want "her" in their bathroom either. It's an ugliness that keeps on giving.


22 posted on 07/26/2003 9:01:29 AM PDT by Nick Danger (The views expressed may not actually be views)
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To: nwrep
Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse the liberals once again top themselves. (Is that an innuendo?)
23 posted on 07/26/2003 9:02:52 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: nwrep
Gays are in some of the most powerful positions in the CA state legislature. They have the power to punish those who get in their way, and few do (any more). I think they're in a rush to get as many of their bills as possible signed into law before Davis goes bye-bye. I wouldn't even want to be a conservative Republican governor in that state and have to deal with these wild-eyed homo fanatics.
24 posted on 07/26/2003 9:04:01 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Beware: the Chip is pissed.)
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To: nwrep
California: The Land of Fruits and Nuts

25 posted on 07/26/2003 9:05:13 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: grania
This is the kind of stuff that happens when liberals take over a government. If the liberals were in control at the national level the same debates would be going on Congress right now. That's why the RATS are fighing tooth and nail to keep Bush's judicial nominations off the bench. The un-elected leftist courts are the only ones pushing their leftist agenda at the federal level.
26 posted on 07/26/2003 9:06:18 AM PDT by LinuxRocks
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To: sgtbono2002
What happened to protections for all the regular folks ?

The liberal plan is to eliminate regular folks. They cause too many problems for the state. Too independent and not malleable enough.

27 posted on 07/26/2003 9:07:24 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The funniest thing I've heard in a while is to listen to the RATS crying that recalling Gray-out Davis will cause "ANARCHY" ooooh no. Does anybody remember them giving a sh*t about the anarchy that the Florida recounts caused? That's when the market started really heading south.
28 posted on 07/26/2003 9:09:42 AM PDT by LinuxRocks
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To: Consort
He-she-it said, She-he-it said.
29 posted on 07/26/2003 9:12:23 AM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: LinuxRocks
Liberal hypocrisy can run you crazy. Just remember, at all times, they are opportunistic liars. They have no core, just a need to win the argument at the moment. This inevitably results in contradictions. They then adamantly defend each side of the contradiction. Thus, hypocrisy.
30 posted on 07/26/2003 9:14:33 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: kcar
Can't you see the them setting up a new committee (complete with tons of state funding) to figure out new unoffensive PC words to use to describe these freaks of nature? I live near New Orleans, LA. We see these freaks all the time in the French Quarter, they are all over the place on Bourbon Street at night. Never would I believe that a gov't would take stuff like this seriously.
31 posted on 07/26/2003 9:16:45 AM PDT by LinuxRocks
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To: sgtbono2002
California just taxes the daylights out of the regular people to pay for all this foolishness.
32 posted on 07/26/2003 9:21:09 AM PDT by bytesmith
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To: Semper Paratus
At this rate, in a few years, we'll be begging Mexico to take California

Laughing my a$$ off!!!!!

33 posted on 07/26/2003 9:21:16 AM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I hope the people of California realize recall works for more than the governor.

Although Davis is pathetic, he has partners in crime in the legislature.

34 posted on 07/26/2003 9:23:30 AM PDT by Credo
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To: LinuxRocks
I think going there would be a great mistake. It has no bearing on national security at all. If Bush does it then he is bending to the pressure from the far left. His dad did the same thing. Look where that got him. We should not be making deals with the left, or helping the UN. Look at the way they treat us. Would they EVER make any deals with us if they were in control?
35 posted on 07/26/2003 9:26:28 AM PDT by LinuxRocks
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To: LinuxRocks
I remember being to Bourbon Street at night once. Those things were dancing semi-nude with the doors wide open. Guess it's not obscene if it's just a plastic scene.
Given all the Lola's, I wouldn't recommend shore-leave to sailors in your town.
36 posted on 07/26/2003 9:32:51 AM PDT by kcar (T)
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To: Bob J
Minnesota, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and the District of Columbia?

Looks like a lot of other states have their own fruitcakes and nuts and are infecting California.

Notice Arizona isn't in that list. That said, our new bulldyke governor would love it. Pray our legislature stays Republican!

37 posted on 07/26/2003 9:34:04 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Free! Read my historical romance novels online at http://Writing.Com/authors/vdavisson)
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To: Credo
Davis, who would normally have no problem signing this type of legislation, may have qualms about signing it before his recall debacle. This is a double-edged sword for him. He needs the gay and lib votes.
38 posted on 07/26/2003 9:36:06 AM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: The Brush
This legislature of California is turning the state into a bad movie. Maybe the rest of America should vote the whole state out of the union and let the libs make their own country.

It's too late. The infection is everywhere now, lbeit more rampant in some locales. Taken a look at SCOTUS rulings lately?

39 posted on 07/26/2003 9:36:49 AM PDT by Eala
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To: DoughtyOne
You're government inaction or is that in action.
40 posted on 07/26/2003 9:38:33 AM PDT by breakem
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To: umgud
Davis is political road kill. The legislators who conspired to hold up the budget and were caught AND sponsored this gem of legislation need to face the same music Gray Out is now facing.
41 posted on 07/26/2003 9:38:47 AM PDT by Credo
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To: LinuxRocks
new unoffensive PC words to use to describe these freaks of nature

Now, now, who are you to judge? Are you transgender phobic? After all, they're not bothering you. Some people are different and we need to accept all of our differences, and we must teach our children to accept them too. Remember, civil rights for trans genders are the same as civil rights for people that are Black or Hispanic or Asian, right?

There. I think I pretty much have their mantra down.

The last one gets me the most. How dare they compare themselves to a beautiful innocent child that God created.

42 posted on 07/26/2003 9:40:20 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: nwrep
Calif. Senate OKs transgender protections (Companies MUST hire transgenders)

As a tranplanted Okie, I'd like to tell the rest of the country that it may actaully
be a GOOD thing that the California Legislature (controlled by Democratic-Socialists)
are expending their brain-power on this topic.

Because when they aren't engaged in social engineering like this, they make merry
figuring out ways to drive the state economy/budget further into the red
and how to increase their confiscatory taxes on their constituents.

I know this sounds surreal...but then, that's California.
43 posted on 07/26/2003 9:45:05 AM PDT by VOA
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Equality California, the state's GLBT advocacy organization

Equality MY @$$...these people (and I use that term advisedly) want nothing less
than SUPERIOR Rights that supercede the rights of anyone who isn't in their "oppressed category".
44 posted on 07/26/2003 9:47:23 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Credo
Davis is political road kill. The legislators who conspired to hold up the
budget and were caught AND sponsored this gem of legislation need to face
the same music Gray Out is now facing.


IF (and I'm not 100% convinced the California voters will throw off their chains)
Gray (and later the Democratic-Socialist legislators) are made to pay, it will
be because they believed their own press releases...and didn't read the occassional
"tea leaves" that appear even in liberal rags like The Los Angeles Times.

E.G., the series of articles about the travails of the transgendered that appeared in
The Los Angeles Times a few years ago.
I'm sure the author penned the articles as pro-transgendered propaganda...
but a bit of truth slipped in.
The series included a profile on one couple that were having a child...the "mother"
IIRC, was just about ready to "transition" to male-ness, but had gotten pregnant.
And appeared with a fairly masculine appearance and obviously pregnant at
a birthing class at the local hospital...and was shocked, shocked, I tell you,
that some of the couples (that would be men with female mothers-to-be) were
freaked out at her/his presence.

When the writer mentioned that this happened at a hospital in THE BAY AREA,
I smiled to myself and said "these folks are like any strain of arrogant
persons...they just don't grasp how really dislike they are, even if people
are polite to them".
45 posted on 07/26/2003 9:56:11 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Senator Norm Coleman (R) is leading the way on this front. He took Susan Kimberly, formerly known as Robert Sylvester, to Washington with him to be his state legislative director.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5738824.htm

46 posted on 07/26/2003 9:56:15 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: kcar
LOL. You are so right. Navy sailors that get drunk in the French Quarter might wind up with an unexpected surprise. Some of the Lolas I've seen in the French Quarter are really difficult to distinguish from real women.
47 posted on 07/26/2003 9:57:26 AM PDT by LinuxRocks
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To: dufekin
Well, I've never lived in Kali but my uncle does. He has lived there for probably 30 years and is now considering moving back to the East Coast (I don't think he'd survive the East Coast the way it is now because he's so "Kalifornia" in his laid-backness..but that's another topic for another day!) He is running his own biz in San Jose and just can't take one more state regulation. This decision will surely send him over the edge today. I think I'll call him though I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
48 posted on 07/26/2003 10:09:27 AM PDT by rocky88
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To: nwrep
I wrote a letter to my local paper a couple of months ago that mentioned this, among other silly things the Rats were doing at the time. I was surprised to see a response letter written by three local Rat committee members. Before addressing my other issues, they took a quick swipe at this one by saying: "As a party, we don't care who you hold hands with."

As if that's all it is.
49 posted on 07/26/2003 10:09:34 AM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: The Brush
Yeah, where's the "Big One" when you really need it? I wonder if the idea of Kali falling off into the ocean after the Big One is appealing NOW????
50 posted on 07/26/2003 10:12:08 AM PDT by rocky88
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