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Calif. Senate OKs transgender protections (Companies MUST hire transgenders)
Yahoo ^ | July 25, 2003 | Ellen Maremont Silver

Posted on 07/26/2003 8:19:44 AM PDT by nwrep

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To: rocky88
Rocky88, please keep us posted about your uncle's response. Good luck to him!!
51 posted on 07/26/2003 10:15:44 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
What, you have some kind of problem regarding "Chicks with Sticks"?
52 posted on 07/26/2003 10:16:31 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: nwrep
Why must companies hire transgenders? Just because they are transgenders doesn't mean they are the best qualified.

Too crazy. And we wonder why the world is crashing down? It's idiot laws like this. They are ruining competition in the name of equality(slavery); and if anyone has trouble seeing that; they are in La La Land.
53 posted on 07/26/2003 10:18:05 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: nwrep
The freak show continues.

In two months, we dump the enabler.

54 posted on 07/26/2003 10:20:31 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Beowulf .50cal
The Peoples Republik of Kalifornicate, a once-wonderful place to live and work, is now a turd in a toiletbowl, spinning around and refusing to get flushed.

Excellent. Spot-on.

55 posted on 07/26/2003 10:21:55 AM PDT by Binyamin
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To: nwrep
INTREP - giving the mental instability that often accompanies transgenderism, perhaps companies could disqualify applicants on that basis.
56 posted on 07/26/2003 10:27:09 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: nwrep
There was actually a transgender young man in my son's high school a few years back. (This is a high school in the mountain backwoods where the graduating class in 75 kids or less.) He wore dresses. The girls and their parents did not want him using their bathroom. The boys were freaked that he was using theirs. He finaly ended up using the bathroom in the teachers lounge.

I guess the California solution to this would be the UNISEX bathroom, such as they had in Allie McBeale. I don't know if I am ready for that.....
57 posted on 07/26/2003 10:29:37 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: rocky88
Your uncle might want to consider moving to Arizona. We're more laid-back than the Kalis, and the business climate is great. If he doesn't care for hot summers, he could choose to live in Prescott or Flagstaff, or do what I do: vacation in California!
58 posted on 07/26/2003 10:30:27 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: freekitty
Why must companies hire transgenders?

Who said that must?  Hint: Don't believe
altered headlines.
59 posted on 07/26/2003 10:39:23 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: Nick Danger
................It's an ugliness that keeps on giving.

Your entire post is funny and probably nearer to the truth than fiction.

60 posted on 07/26/2003 10:54:26 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: nwrep
We're having all kinds of problems in California and this is what they've been working on.
The DimoCrap is the decay to our society. This is why Davis is being recalled. I hope the people of California will wake up and vote the Dims out of office.
61 posted on 07/26/2003 10:58:41 AM PDT by Justin714
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To: DoughtyOne
"If this were put to a vote in California 75% of the population woule vote against it. It's the sick f--- democrats who are pushing deviancy forward."

I'd put it closer to 85%...and you are spot on re:'sick f****** democrats...'

But hey...it gives the California bashers something to grind their teeth about.

62 posted on 07/26/2003 11:00:03 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: nwrep
The Kalifornia government is so progressive, that some day soon, they will progess right into bankruptcy.

5.56mm

63 posted on 07/26/2003 11:06:10 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
progess=progress

I need more coffee.

5.56mm

64 posted on 07/26/2003 11:07:40 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Khurkris
I guess some people are mad cause we don't have winter...as if the socialist-fascists don't hold the other 75% of the population hostage with questionable elections and commie judges. We passed 187 and 209, remember? Prop 13 too, for that matter...
65 posted on 07/26/2003 11:30:15 AM PDT by Sharpshot613
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To: freekitty
I didn't read anything in that article that forces anyone to hire transgendered people (except the headline). Looks to me like it simply protects people from losing their home or job because of it, and allows them to present themselves as they believe they are.

Judging from some of the posts in this thread seems the protections may be justified.
66 posted on 07/26/2003 11:38:06 AM PDT by ScrtAccess
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To: ScrtAccess
I'm going to say this now, while I still can, and it's not yet 'hate speech' punishable by law.

I don't want IT working next to me. I don't want IT in the restroom with me, and I certainly don't want IT living anywhere near my children.

Now, if you find it acceptable, you can have them at your job and have them all move in your neighborhood. Then everyone will be happy.
67 posted on 07/26/2003 12:00:25 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: nwrep

So now you HAVE TO HIRE ME! And if you're not NICE to me, I'll come back and chop all of you up into little, teensey-weensey pieces, so let's all get along, OK? Don't mess with me, I used to bench-press 380...

68 posted on 07/26/2003 12:04:37 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Semper Paratus
At this rate, I forsee the earthquake coming when the next seal is opened, as in the Revelation!

Ops4 God BLess America!
69 posted on 07/26/2003 12:10:16 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: nwrep
Its time for all businesses to get together and threaten to leave the state within 90 days unless every liberal resigns immediately. They are either going to friendly to the freaks or to industry, and I bet theres not enough freaks performing enough tricks to make up for the $38 billion they are in the hole.
70 posted on 07/26/2003 12:28:47 PM PDT by Bommer (Tom Dasshole is a Domestic Enemy!!!)
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To: nwrep
We should not tolerate such arbitrary discrimination that can lead to the problems of unemployment and homelessness among those who are perceived as different."

It ain't arbitrary, it's using the fine God-given discriminatory powers we humans have to see the difference between the natural order and crazed circus freaks who want to destroy such natural law.

71 posted on 07/26/2003 1:07:49 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Consort
What is the impact on the he said/she said argument?

the s/he-it has hit the fan.

72 posted on 07/26/2003 1:27:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
anyone wonder why CA is in the mess that is? Instead of dealing with real budget problems, the CA Senators are wrestling with 'ground breaking' legislation on transgender issues. sheesh. Recall the whole lot of them, i say!
73 posted on 07/26/2003 1:45:33 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: nwrep
So if you opened a strip club, you would have to hire one of these people if they applied?
74 posted on 07/26/2003 1:48:34 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: nwrep
G-Damn right they have. This is an outrage. Enough is enough.

I can't take any more. I can't stand this sh!t.

75 posted on 07/26/2003 1:48:35 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Bommer
Its time for all businesses to get together and threaten to leave the state within 90 days unless every liberal resigns immediately. They are either going to friendly to the freaks or to industry, and I bet theres not enough freaks performing enough tricks to make up for the $38 billion they are in the hole.

If that were an option that became popular, the next law you see passed in California would be something on the order of 25 to 30 years for attempting to leave the state. Of course it would be a law based on discrimination!

76 posted on 07/26/2003 2:09:03 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: nwrep
Recall the entire legislature.
77 posted on 07/26/2003 2:09:06 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Husker24
So if you opened a strip club, you would have to hire one of these people if they applied?

If that were the case, the house drink may as well be "Pigs Eye" beer for it would help to stave off losses due to the decline in patrons.

78 posted on 07/26/2003 2:15:27 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: rocky88
I remember when older mentors tried 20 years ago to get me to expand my self-employment and hire others "so I could make more money". I said then it was too hard to find knowledgeable persons who were dependable and responsible.
I also said more money just was bragging rights- I would pay too much more in taxes. Wonder what angel on my shoulder I owe for keeping me out of this kind of mess? Thank you--Thank you--Thank you whoever and wherever you are.
79 posted on 07/26/2003 2:17:44 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: sgtbono2002
Us "regular folks" are considered the money funders for all these goofy programs. There are more kinds of perverts in this state in or with ties to the Legislature than we can ever imagine.
80 posted on 07/26/2003 2:20:04 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles
What one chooses to wear to represent themselves alone does not make one a pervert.

Programs designed to protect one from narrow minded people most likely ain't goofy.

How do you define "regular folk"? The drug dealer around the corner? The drunk at the end of the block? The homeless man standing in the middle of the intersection? The lady that cheats on her husband? "Regular folk" is a subjective term. Everyone pays taxes for these programs.
81 posted on 07/26/2003 2:53:19 PM PDT by ScrtAccess
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To: ScrtAccess
What one chooses to wear to represent themselves alone does not make one a pervert.

One can choose to wear whatever he or she wants.

One may not force me to hire them unless the government controls the means of production across the board.

Choices have consequences, or at least they used to.

82 posted on 07/26/2003 3:00:49 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ScrtAccess
Wow. Just wow.
83 posted on 07/26/2003 3:20:11 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE)
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To: jwalsh07
One may not force me to hire them unless the government controls the means of production across the board.

How many discrination lawsuits can you afford to fight before you give up?
It's the cost of litigation that usually wins the fight with these nutty laws.

84 posted on 07/26/2003 4:14:28 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: ScrtAccess
"Everyone pays taxes for these programs."

Not if "everyone" isn't working. And if they want "protection" by FORCING an employer to hire them, I don't think that's right. Supposing someone FORCED you to WORK & you didn't need or want to work? Would that be fair?

85 posted on 07/26/2003 4:44:17 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ScrtAccess
Where, in the US Constitution, or Bill of Rights, is it written, that everyone is "entitled" to a job, house, car, welfare, sex preferences, etc., etc.?
86 posted on 07/26/2003 4:47:19 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: nwrep
And the reason anyone would move to CA and start a new business is?
87 posted on 07/26/2003 4:52:47 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Be a monthly doner!!! Just 3 bucks a month will make us proud!!!)
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To: ScrtAccess
That scarf clashes with your dress.
88 posted on 07/26/2003 4:56:04 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Be a monthly doner!!! Just 3 bucks a month will make us proud!!!)
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To: MonroeDNA
And the reason anyone would move to CA and start a new business is?

To meet me? Heheeeeeeeee

89 posted on 07/26/2003 4:56:14 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE)
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To: All
It's worse than you can imagine. A Rep. Congressman on Roger Hedgecock's show yesterday said that within the bill is another clause...you won't believe. If a customer comes in and says to your transgendered dress wearing freak of an employee ANYTHING that OFFENDS him, the freak can sue you, the employer.
90 posted on 07/26/2003 4:57:10 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Oh. Yippeee.


91 posted on 07/26/2003 4:58:13 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE)
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To: the Deejay
I still haven't seen anything but the headline that says anyone will be forced to hire anyone. The only thing I read was that one could not be fired or evicted because of it.

Employers should have the right to hire whoever, and hopefully they will hire the best qualified regardless of dress, but they should not be able to tell someone already employed what they can or cannot wear on or off the job, unless it is a condition of employment such as where a uniform is called for or where safety is a concern.

My guess is, and I don't know this with certainty, is the protections are probably more directed at employers and renters who choose to fire or evict someone for what they wear behind closed doors (in the home) after bing told by someone rather than what is worn to work or in public.
92 posted on 07/26/2003 4:58:56 PM PDT by ScrtAccess
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To: speekinout
Vote with your feet. Get you, your family and your business the hell out of California.
93 posted on 07/26/2003 5:02:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ScrtAccess
Dahlink, I realize you're new to Free Republic. Or at least, just signed on under this name.

If you look at the top of the page, by the headline that you speak of, you will see a link that says "Yahoo". You click onto that. You will then find an article regarding this whole issue.

I am not sure about the procedures here on Free Republic about copying from Yahoo, so I'll add a sentence only. Fine. Two sentences.


Ellen Maremont Silver, Gay.com / PlanetOut.com Network

SUMMARY: The California Senate passed a groundbreaking bill on Thursday that makes it illegal to discriminate against transgender people in housing and employment.

Now, what you do is you use common sense. The summary says it will make it ILLEGAL TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST...blah blah blah.

That would mean, again using common sense, that if a girly boy wanted to get all gussied up and apply for a job and you found it most disgusting and chose not to hire said girly boy, you'd be in deep doo doo with the law.

That is in laymen's terms.

And welcome to Free Republic.
94 posted on 07/26/2003 5:05:59 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE rEPUBLIC iS nOT aDDICTIVE, fREE)
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To: nwrep
People don't need to discriminate. They just need a list on which they give points to prospective employees/renters based on a variety of categories.

Income, collateral, years employed, veteran, test scores,transcripts, interests that will make the place more interesting for other employees/occupants, and, of course, that all important interview.

Like with college admissions at Michigan Law School, you're looking for those things which will enhance your overall situation.

(As defined by you.)

95 posted on 07/26/2003 5:07:23 PM PDT by xzins
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To: ScrtAccess
I have to be honest. So called, "tansgendered" people are even more mentally disturbed than homosexuals. If I found out one was working for me, I'd fire him/her/it in a second. Sue me.

Nobody feels comfortable around such creatures. How warped a person's mind must be to do such a thing. Geeze. Repulsive.

96 posted on 07/26/2003 5:07:53 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Be a monthly doner!!! Just 3 bucks a month will make us proud!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne
It's the sick f--- democrats who are pushing deviancy forward.

And not too many years ago such language was considered deviant.

Are you part of the problem too?

97 posted on 07/26/2003 5:09:03 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: Hildy
Really makes one want to rush to Kalifornia and start up a business or two, doesn't it? How encouraging! LOL! (Sooo glad I don't live in that state and never have.)
98 posted on 07/26/2003 5:12:57 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ScrtAccess
But the second one of them gets fired, they will scream at is because of their sexual preference. If someone has spent the money for a property/business, they should have ALL RIGHTS to say who stays, who goes. Be it a home or business.
99 posted on 07/26/2003 5:16:57 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: MonroeDNA
"tansgendered" people are even more mentally disturbed than homosexuals. If I found out one was working for me, I'd fire him/her/it in a second. Sue me."

Here! Here! Same here! You go, Monroe! You rock!

100 posted on 07/26/2003 5:19:58 PM PDT by the Deejay
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