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Caution: Wizard at Work (Harry Potter director compares W to Voldemort)
MSNBC.com ^ | 8-04-03 | Carla Power and Devin Gordon

Posted on 07/27/2003 4:55:04 PM PDT by Paul Atreides

Behind the Magic: The Harry Potter movie franchise has a new director and a new Dumbledore. Things are getting Sirius. An exclusive visit to 2004’s ‘Prisoner of Azkaban’

By Carla Power and Devin Gordon NEWSWEEK

Aug. 4 issue — Between takes at the shrieking shack—a ghoulish, precariously quaking house on the fringes of the wizard village Hogsmeade—actor Daniel Radcliffe fiddles with his magic wand. Today’s scene is a doozy: Harry Potter finally confronts the sinister (for now) Sirius Black.

OVER THE SCREECHING din of the shack, Radcliffe repeatedly shouts, “You betrayed my parents! You’re the reason they’re dead!” During a break in the action, though, he twirls his wand genially like a baton. Wait, sorry, it’s not a baton—that’d be so 12 years old. Radcliffe, who turned 14 last week, is bashing the air feverishly. He’s doing a drum solo.

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Cuaron’s outspokenness is also new to the franchise. Does the evil wizard Voldemort still remind him of George W. Bush, as he said recently? “In combination with Saddam,” he says. “They both have selfish interests and are very much in love with power. Also, a disregard for the environment. A love for manipulating people. I read books four and five, and Fudge”—Rowling’s slippery Minister of Magic—”is similar to Tony Blair. He’s the ultimate politician. He’s in denial about many things. And everything is for the sake of his own persona, his own power. The way the Iraq thing was handled was not unlike the way Fudge handled affairs in book four.” Cuaron’s scrappiness is either refreshing or worrying, depending on your stock portfolio.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algorelostgetoverit; bushbashing; harrypothead; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

1 posted on 07/27/2003 4:55:05 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
I wish those people would just shut up, make a movie, and leave it at that. No one cares that they are "artistes," making a statement, or whatever.
2 posted on 07/27/2003 4:56:16 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
" The way the Iraq thing was handled was not unlike the way Fudge handled affairs in book four.”

I'm speechless. I cannot wrap my brain around this absurdity, nor can I take someone's opinion seriously when a complex geopolitical situation is compared to a chidren's character named, ~Fudge~.

Now, a Bene Gesserit would have handled it quite differently. That is another matter...
3 posted on 07/27/2003 4:58:29 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
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To: OpusatFR
It's obvious that the whole of Harry Potter, written long before W was elected, is an analogy of WWII and Hitler.
4 posted on 07/27/2003 5:00:54 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
I would rather compare "W" to Aragorn and "Rummy" to Gandalf.
5 posted on 07/27/2003 5:03:14 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: Paul Atreides
I knew it. I always thought this Potter kid was a nascent dictator. All that business about pure blood. Just screams Aryan, doesn't it?

I wonder why this director took it upon himself to promote this type of Hitler youth?

~chuckle~
6 posted on 07/27/2003 5:04:52 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
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To: Paul Atreides
I'm always amazed when writers of movies or TV or books can totally grasp the nature of evil and the success or failure of good to confront said evil but can never apply that knowledge to the real world.

It's like they can spot evil in a second as long as it doesn't involve current events.

7 posted on 07/27/2003 5:05:15 PM PDT by LenS
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To: Geist Krieger
The statements by that idiot director are exactly like that idiotic Bezerkely study, saying that Hitler and Reagan are cut from the same cloth. They take a real or literary figure, who murders people, and immediately think that the person is a conservative.

The left has more blood on its hands that it can ever wash off.

8 posted on 07/27/2003 5:10:48 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
JK Rowling is the Neo-Nostrodamus?
9 posted on 07/27/2003 5:11:43 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: Paul Atreides
What people need to realize is that one can be an artist--even a great artist, though having not seen the movie, I haven no idea if this person is one--and still be as dumb as an orangutan about everything else in the whole world except one's art.
10 posted on 07/27/2003 5:15:56 PM PDT by The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
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To: Paul Atreides
"The left has more blood on its hands that it can ever wash off."

Body count:
Pro-abortion liberals = millions
Mr. & Mrs. Clinton personally = 40+
Teddy Kennedy = 1 (that we know of)
George W. Bush = 0

11 posted on 07/27/2003 5:22:54 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
The reason that I say that Voldemort's character is about Hitler is that:

Voldemort is part Muggle (non-magic people)

He despises others who are part-Muggle and wants to rid the world of them

He has followers who feel the same way and do not hesitate to murder; he and his followers also kill Muggles with no hesitation

After his return to power, the Wizard (Prime) Minister of Magic, Cornelius Fudge, denies that he is back in power and a threat

Headmaster Dumbledore, who Fudge fears wants his job, knows that Voldemort is back and must be dealt with.

12 posted on 07/27/2003 5:23:21 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
"I wish those people would just shut up, make a movie, and leave it at that. No one cares that they are "artistes," making a statement, or whatever"

A better wish might be for MSNBC to someday find real news stories shortly after learning the skill of accurate unbiased reporting.

13 posted on 07/27/2003 5:24:32 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Paul Atreides
I wish those people would just shut up, make a movie, and leave it at that. No one cares that they are "artistes," making a statement, or whatever.

I agree. And the latest comparisons around here of W and his Administration to characters in Tolkien's creation were enough, I thought, to gag an elephant as well.

14 posted on 07/27/2003 5:25:22 PM PDT by BradyLS
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To: Paul Atreides
I read and enjoyed the Potter books. They have a very conservative point of view.

And as far as the 4th book goes, the way Fudge handles Voldermort - everyone is telling Fudge (the minister) how dangerous Voldemort is and he absolutely refuses to listen, to the point the Voldemort is given time to finish his evil plans. Fudge just can't bear to believe Voldemort has come back, and allows things to continue along the status quo until disaster strikes.

Actually, it sounds to me like Fudge is more like the liberals. I guess this guy read the book upside down or something.
15 posted on 07/27/2003 5:26:27 PM PDT by I still care
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To: bd476
This is all about indoctrinating kids. They know that kids will read anything about Harry Potter and if they can insert their little propaganda, they might have some believers on their hands.
16 posted on 07/27/2003 5:26:55 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: I still care
His feeble brain was only able to grasp that there was an evil character in the book, so he added two and two and came up with eight.
17 posted on 07/27/2003 5:28:15 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Now I feel like an airhead. I've read the series, and I didn't even think of that! Genius :D
18 posted on 07/27/2003 5:28:24 PM PDT by meow
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To: Paul Atreides
Bah. Another "artist" who is trying to get his quarter-hour of fame through someone else's work. I wasn't aware that Jo Rowling gave up total rights to the books.
19 posted on 07/27/2003 5:28:43 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You - on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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To: Paul Atreides
Oh, give me a break. I never heard such stupid nonsense in my life.

I wonder how long it took him to dream this up? A nanosecond?
20 posted on 07/27/2003 5:28:54 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: I still care
Wait till you get to the fifth book. Umbridge is Hillary personified - down to a pink cardigan and overall toad-like look (no, no crusty though). She wants more and more edicts put on the school insuring her rise to power over Dumbledore.
21 posted on 07/27/2003 5:34:05 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: meow
It first dawned on me during the second book, with all the talk of Mudbloods and the purifying of Hogwarts of the Mudbloods and Voldemort's role in it all.
22 posted on 07/27/2003 5:36:15 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Spyder
She is just like Hillary when she smiles so sickeningly while being a b*tch.
23 posted on 07/27/2003 5:37:37 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Yes, I noticed that too. The book is even more fun than it would be otherwise by picturing Hillary in her place...
24 posted on 07/27/2003 5:41:08 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Paul Atreides
Sounds like the director has W confused with 8 years of Clintoonian power madness. What other power couple after snaking off 8 years at the White House while selling America to the highest bidder, then proceeded to snake off the senatorial seat of New York, home of the now missing Twin Towers.
25 posted on 07/27/2003 5:44:52 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is all about indoctrinating kids. They know that kids will read anything about Harry Potter and if they can insert their little propaganda, they might have some believers on their hands "

Agreed, if by "they" you mean the disgusting, twisted and thoroughly depressing MSNBC and other similar conglomeratti they bed down with.

(Note to self: get thee away from the computer and take a brisk walk after reading bad news. Good will out, darkest before the dawn and it will all come out in the wash etc.)

26 posted on 07/27/2003 5:45:32 PM PDT by bd476
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To: lilylangtree
The left has to tear down this president, who is a real man, by any means necessary. It is why they are all weeping and gnashing their teeth over the deaths of the Husseins sons.
27 posted on 07/27/2003 5:46:15 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
If the third movie is in the hands of someone so feeble he can't even understand the plot of the new book, they're in trouble. Fudge is constantly DENYING that there is any danger. If this had any meaningful connection to Iraq, then Fudge would be the left, requesting more inspectors see if Voldemort is really, truly back. It takes a very special kind of idiot to make that kind of analogy. (Hell, if you wanted to press it, you could easily say that Dumbledore and Harry are Blair and Bush: the only people willing to believe in a clear, immanent threat.)
28 posted on 07/27/2003 6:02:12 PM PDT by Sanjuro68
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To: Paul Atreides
But, read on, Folks, and here's a neat bit:

Of course, Cuaron doesn’t have full run of the joint. (Chris) Columbus, who says he was “too physically exhausted” to direct the third movie, is serving as producer—and he makes no bones about the fact that he’s doing it to “protect” the Potter world he adores.

And THAT, FRiends, is a biggie. Double-checked with some movie gossip I know. Seems our little "artiste" is a loose cannon on the set with his "progressive" thoughts, and it interferes with the film.

29 posted on 07/27/2003 6:04:21 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You - on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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To: Sanjuro68
So true!
30 posted on 07/27/2003 6:06:49 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Old Sarge
Seems our little "artiste" is a loose cannon on the set with his "progressive" thoughts, and it interferes with the film.

I bet he can't break wind without it being a "political statement."

31 posted on 07/27/2003 6:08:54 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
These miserable ignorant people don't realize that the jihadists want them dead too and that finally we have a pres that has the guts to stand up. Not a pres that doesn't want to interfere with his sexual excapades by doing his job and all they do is complain. They say whatever the party bosses want them to say without any independent thought. I guess that's how despots happen though
32 posted on 07/27/2003 6:11:10 PM PDT by chuckwalla
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To: Spyder
I read it. Probably one of the main theme of the books is the overreaching bumbling of the "ministry of magic" (government) and how it messes everything it touches, interferes with everyones lives, imprisons the innocent and frees the guilty, and in general just does everything wrong. And it is in control of everything - even the kids have no freedom.

All these points are conveiently left out of the movies, while the subplot of racism is much more to their liking, so the movie makers make a nice big deal of that one.


I thought, this woman has to be a conservative.
33 posted on 07/27/2003 6:50:24 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
I read it. Probably one of the main theme of the books is the overreaching bumbling of the "ministry of magic" (government) and how it messes everything it touches, interferes with everyones lives, imprisons the innocent and frees the guilty, and in general just does everything wrong. And it is in control of everything - even the kids have no freedom.

All these points are conveiently left out of the movies, while the subplot of racism is much more to their liking, so the movie makers make a nice big deal of that one.

I thought, this woman has to be a conservative.

To be fair, the nonsensical antics of the government don't really start until the third book.

34 posted on 07/27/2003 7:26:55 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: NovemberCharlie
A lot of it yes, but in book 2 Harry is sent a notice that he used an unauthorized "hover charm" and will be expelled if he uses it again. (Although he didn't do it.)

That part is totally left out of the movie, and while I figured that well, it probably just didn't figure into the story, now that I know the director is a liberal I think maybe they just didn't want to explore that part of the book.
35 posted on 07/27/2003 7:52:02 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
You know the new director is a liberal; who knows what Columbus thought.

I think the most disturbing part of that scene was the fact that the Ministry of Magic knew about and responded to the incident in a matter of minutes, a point even Rowling didn't delve into.

36 posted on 07/27/2003 8:15:00 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: NovemberCharlie
I think the most disturbing part of that scene was the fact that the Ministry of Magic knew about and responded to the incident in a matter of minutes, a point even Rowling didn't delve into.

That was like a scene out of Brazil, which is probably why Terry Gilliam was Rowling's first choice of director. The fascinating thing is that Gilliam could make one of the most caustic anti-government films ever, and still be a complete socialist. I just don't get that.

37 posted on 07/28/2003 8:56:40 AM PDT by Sanjuro68
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To: Paul Atreides
I was really looking forward to this movie, because this is where the story really starts to take off. Now, I'm not. Did anyone read the part of the article about the directors last film?? It's described as a teen sex romp. Then of course, there was this...

Cuaron also reimagined the role of Professor Dumbledore after Richard Harris’s death. British actor Michael Gambon now plays the Hogwarts headmaster as an elegant old hippie.

This guy is a tool.

38 posted on 07/29/2003 8:56:29 AM PDT by retrokitten (That Simpson. He thinks he's the Pope of Chili Town.)
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