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Parents: White Teacher Should Not Teach Black History
NewsNet5 Cleveland/Akron ^ | July 27, 2003

Posted on 07/27/2003 11:11:10 PM PDT by Michael2001

OBERLIN, Ohio -- A group of parents said they will fight a possible decision to allow a white teacher to lead classes in black history at Oberlin High School.

NewsChannel5 reported that the parents said using a white teacher would send the wrong message to black students.

A scheduling conflict could cause the district to reassign the black teacher who has taught the course for seven years.

The parents have protested the move to the school board, but the district's superintendent has not commented on the case.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 1racehustler; blackstudents; colorblindsociety; historyeducation; ohio; pc; politicallycorrect; publicschools; racebaiting; racialdivision; racism; racists; reverseracism; rustbelthicks; taxdollarsatwork; youpayforthis
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1 posted on 07/27/2003 11:11:10 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: Michael2001
unbelievably racist BUMP
2 posted on 07/27/2003 11:14:24 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Michael2001
Why exactly did Ohio feel the need to have black history classes?
3 posted on 07/27/2003 11:17:51 PM PDT by jf55510
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To: Texas_Jarhead
This is interesting, because blacks tend to believe that there is need to teach black history because the rest of history is "white." if this is the case, is it inappropriate to have a black teacher teach "white" history?
4 posted on 07/27/2003 11:26:02 PM PDT by undeniable logic
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To: jf55510
What kind of message is sent by having a black teacher teach white history?

Is there really such a thing as "white" or "black" history? -or is this a job sinecure for one of the mascot clssses?
5 posted on 07/27/2003 11:26:51 PM PDT by John Valentine (Laid back, paid back, off-line and out by the pool...)
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To: Michael2001
I take it this is a public school.

In my opinion, there are only three realistic options to ensure your child receives a good education. They are:

1. Homeschool
2. A good private school
3. A combination of homeschooling/private school
6 posted on 07/27/2003 11:27:16 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Michael2001
If the school district is wise they will find a conservative black "black history" teacher who will REALLY teach the kids a thing or two! The whole idea of the class (on the part of the leftists who designed it) was to indoctrinate black students in socialist thought. What could these racists say if their students were challenged to abandon Marxism by "one of their own"?!
7 posted on 07/27/2003 11:36:24 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Michael2001
NewsChannel5 reported that the parents said using a white teacher would send the wrong message to black students.

And what "wrong message" will that be? Every white person hates blacks and therefore would not be suitable for teaching the latters history?

8 posted on 07/27/2003 11:37:11 PM PDT by yonif
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To: cartoonistx
If they get a rightwing black, the parents will complain again, saying they need a leftist one.
9 posted on 07/27/2003 11:38:32 PM PDT by yonif
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To: Michael2001
I agree with these parents ... and we shouldn't have any chicks teaching shop class either.
10 posted on 07/27/2003 11:39:15 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
unbelievably racist BUMP

Oh, come now, is it really so hard to believe they could be this brazenly racist?

11 posted on 07/27/2003 11:41:21 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: spodefly
I agree with these parents ... and we shouldn't have any chicks teaching shop class either.

And considering how capitalism is just "White History" (the history of how Europeans oppressed everyone else in the world) maybe blacks shouldn't teach econ classes.

12 posted on 07/27/2003 11:42:48 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: undeniable logic
You beat me.
13 posted on 07/27/2003 11:45:47 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: yonif; mhking
Exactly.

These eminent men would NEVER be permitted to teach "Black History".

14 posted on 07/27/2003 11:47:56 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Just DAMN...
15 posted on 07/27/2003 11:48:23 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: Michael2001
I aint be belives this crapola.
16 posted on 07/28/2003 12:00:58 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: undeniable logic
Good point!

I heard on of OJ's black attorney friends say no whites should be on Kobe Bryant's jury or any black defendant's jury.

Can we then allow any blacks on a jury that tries a white?

Can a black supervisor instruct and supervise white employees?

Can we allow blacks to vote in a white against white election?

Somebody is itching for a lot of consumer backlash against black businesses (which are not 12%), sub-contracting, and temporary help employees.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

It has already started.

Their jobs are filed by Indians here in the USA or in India.
17 posted on 07/28/2003 12:11:48 AM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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To: Michael2001
Nobody should teach courses in black history. All such courses do is encourage the worst and most pathological in the black race.
18 posted on 07/28/2003 12:31:24 AM PDT by RLK
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To: cartoonistx
>>If the school district is wise they will find a conservative black "black history" teacher who will REALLY teach the kids a thing or two! <<

I like that idea. I'm sick and tired of the notion that if you're not a socialist, you're not really black.
19 posted on 07/28/2003 12:32:50 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been suspended or banned.)
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To: Michael2001
so the problem with the teacher is not the teaching credentials it is just race? what hipocrits.


Reminds me of a story where a YWCA hired the most qualified candidate for an office job. Turns out they accidentaly hired a man. Then they could not fire him because they would be fireing him for just his gender.

Does this school have a white history class. (note: I say sarcastically) One class to give the caucasian students pride in their ancestors. No way no how. Positive white immages are not allowed or even budgeted. Negative images of white people are encourage even mandated.

O well, welcome to public school logic 101.
20 posted on 07/28/2003 1:54:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Michael2001
Parents: White Teacher Should Not Teach Black History

AGreed. In fact, there is no reason to teach black history in high school. College as an elective - no credit, but not high school. American history, State history, yes.

21 posted on 07/28/2003 1:54:32 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: noutopia
I aint be belives this crapola.

BAD example of whitey doing ebonics, prolly' the worst ev'er.

You got the first part co-rect, "I aint", but un punctuated correctly. Ain't always is apostrophied. Similar to cain't din't and weren't.

The next phrase is confused, "be belives", is a mixed metafore, true examples and proper usage are: ".. be beliven, and been beliven. I think the correct usage of your verberage in this instance should have been "be beliven" or in an alternet, due to dialectrics, "be belivens", as to the severatoracity of the iterdiction.

Talk it out, "I ain't be beliven...or, "I ain't been beliven...

White girl, pelease!!!!Crapola? What was you thinking. You was down with it (almost), actually not even close, then "crapola" you just had to say that!

That snaged my ebonic mouth like a salmon to a flasher on a very tired and depressed stripper? Crapola? Sh#T!.

The correct ebonics as you wrote it is, "I ain't be beliven this s***. >

If any one has my ebonics translation of (i think) Al gore played in St Louis, Kansas City. I would love a copy.

22 posted on 07/28/2003 1:55:47 AM PDT by snodog
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To: Jeff Chandler
actually its now if you are not a socialist you are not a real teacher at ANY level of the education stream. k-univeristy.

The left is working hard to make socialism a perpetual lock in universities. I can't wait to see what happens when the 60 rejects of the universities finally die or retire.
23 posted on 07/28/2003 1:57:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: snodog
Why you bitch slap me like dat??
24 posted on 07/28/2003 2:27:53 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: Michael2001
I got an idea....

How about' just teach EFFIN' history, and leave all the colors in?

25 posted on 07/28/2003 2:31:10 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: snodog
I just be learns da eboniks.
26 posted on 07/28/2003 2:33:04 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: Bullish
Not PC.
27 posted on 07/28/2003 2:39:34 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: Michael2001
Well, "black" history is not a subject to begin with, and it should not be taught by anybody.

This includes white people, so these parents are 80% right.

28 posted on 07/28/2003 2:50:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: xm177e2
Oh, come now, is it really so hard to believe they could be this brazenly racist?

Well, once you concede the existence of something called "black history" as a coherent and cohesive body of knowledge, you have already assumed the mental state that permits such teaching assignments.

29 posted on 07/28/2003 2:53:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Michael2001
White = Racist that is the message they want to send.
30 posted on 07/28/2003 3:01:38 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: Michael2001
The teachings of the NAACP, Jessie, Rev Al, et al.
If you can't find racism, make some up.
"We got to protect our phony balony jobs"
31 posted on 07/28/2003 3:12:26 AM PDT by Voter#537
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To: Michael2001
A similar thing happened to me. I volunteered for four years in New Haven, CT teaching tennis to inner-city kids. The fifth year I was not invited back. I found out later that they only wanted minority coaches even though about ten percent of the kids were white. The program fell apart two years later.
32 posted on 07/28/2003 3:23:28 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: xm177e2
"Oh, come now, is it really so hard to believe they could be this brazenly racist?"

Oh, comrade, did you miss your lesson at the last indoctrination class?

The one that says that black peoples are not capable of racism.


33 posted on 07/28/2003 3:34:14 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Michael2001
“African-American” activists have separated “black” history from History, meaning that what is left must be – by default – “white” history.
By inference, Black teachers should not teach any “white” history?
34 posted on 07/28/2003 3:38:01 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: undeniable logic
Darn! You beat me to it.
Great Minds?
35 posted on 07/28/2003 3:38:54 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: undeniable logic
... blacks tend to believe that there is need to teach black history because the rest of history is "white." if this is the case, is it inappropriate to have a black teacher teach "white" history?

Important point, well made!

36 posted on 07/28/2003 3:39:02 AM PDT by Yeti
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[blink-blink] You have got to be kidding!

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37 posted on 07/28/2003 3:49:28 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking; snodog; noutopia
Oh, SNAP! Do dat mean dat aww dem crackah stoodin's kin skip skool da HOLE mumf uv Feb'ry? Dat PHAT!
38 posted on 07/28/2003 4:01:09 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: jf55510
Why exactly did Ohio feel the need to have black history classes?

Can you imagine the sh** storm we'd get if I proposed we teach a class in White History at the local high school? I'd be labled a racist before I even got the complete sentence out of my mouth!

39 posted on 07/28/2003 5:10:45 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Exercise your right to vote, or they'll take that one too!)
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To: King Prout
Oh, SNAP! Do dat mean dat aww dem crackah stoodin's kin skip skool da HOLE mumf uv Feb'ry? Dat PHAT!

Shizzy dawg, you is awf da chaaaain! I's still be a'waitin' fo da WHITE hist'ry mumf.

40 posted on 07/28/2003 5:17:13 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Exercise your right to vote, or they'll take that one too!)
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To: jf55510
Why exactly did Ohio feel the need to have black history classes?

Oberlin is the home of Oberlin College, and has been the home of Ohio liberalism for over a hundred and fifty years. Oberlin prides itself on their role in the Underground Railroad, and this kind of attention to "diversity" is very typical of the community.

These guilt-ridden liberals tend to ignore the sacrifice of thousands of white Ohioans in the war that ended slavery as they wear the perpetual hairshit of the "White Racist Oppressors", in order that they may perceive one another as being more enlightened than the rest of us.

41 posted on 07/28/2003 5:21:09 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: WestPacSailor
Dayyum, Dawg! Don' be tellin' me you bees holdin' yo breaf!
42 posted on 07/28/2003 5:24:09 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: longtermmemmory
"The left is working hard to make socialism a perpetual lock in universities. I can't wait to see what happens when the 60 rejects of the universities finally die or retire."

Don't hold your breath..... The education system in this country can not be saved. It started down the tubes in the late 60s and has gone from bad to worse.
This was all part of the old Marxist plan for subverting us. It is what they did in Cuba, and every other country that they infiltrated.
The old hippie profs from the 60s continue to clone new
Marxist/Socialist.
Just an example, look at the young new environmental "scientist". They do not even think of doing research or looking at facts. They only spew the dogma that they are taught. i.e, "global warming MUST be a result of capitalism".

I pity both the poor, and rich, in this country that continue to send their children off to the cesspools that are called schools.

43 posted on 07/28/2003 5:26:18 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: yonif
NewsChannel5 reported that the parents said using a white teacher would send the wrong message to black students.

A "wrong" message is one that might encourage whites to refuse to pander to black racists.

44 posted on 07/28/2003 5:33:39 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Kenton
"Liberals" is a very understated word for Oberlin. That school and town is much further Left than "liberal" implies.
45 posted on 07/28/2003 5:36:05 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: AlexW
Indiana just proposed changing the grading system from ABCDF to 1-2-3. 3 = mastery, 1 and 2 = "needs improvement". Yep. THAT'll save the schools.

(I think I'll have to post that story if I can find it online.)

46 posted on 07/28/2003 5:37:45 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: AlexW
Found it. Posted here.
47 posted on 07/28/2003 5:51:37 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Michael2001
Is knowledge of Ebonics a prerequisite to the aformentioned history studies?
48 posted on 07/28/2003 7:26:01 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: RLK
You must remember that ancient Greek political and economic systems were looted from the Egyptians, who once looted, never recovered the inter-stellar status and accomplishments they once enjoyed. /s
49 posted on 07/28/2003 7:47:25 AM PDT by banjo joe
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To: spodefly
"I agree with these parents ... and we shouldn't have any chicks teaching shop class either. "

Even if she looks like Heidi from Tool Time on Home Improvement?
50 posted on 07/28/2003 8:00:38 AM PDT by honeygrl
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