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Texas Democrats Bolt Again
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 28, 2003 | Clay Robison

Posted on 07/28/2003 1:21:03 PM PDT by wkcoop

July 28, 2003, 3:08PM

Texas Democrats bolt again By CLAY ROBISON Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

AUSTIN -- An unknown number of Democratic state senators abruptly left the state Capitol this afternoon after learning that Gov. Rick Perry planned to immediately call a second special session on congressional redistricting.

One Democratic senator who asked not to be named, told the Chronicle in a phone interview that senators were apparently on their way out of town.

"I have no idea where we're going. I just know in a little bit we will be out of pocket," the senator said.

He would not say how many senators had left but called it an "adequate" number to break a quorum and keep the Senate from conducting business.

The Senate requires two-thirds, or 21 senators, to be present to conduct business, meaning the absence of 11 senators could break a quorum. There are 12 Democrats in the Senate.

The senator said the action was precipitated by Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst's decision to bypass a traditional Senate rule that requires a two-thirds vote to debate any bill.

That rule, which has been in effect during the current special session, has so far blocked redistricting in the Senate.

The senator said the Democrats fled because they feared Perry would immediately call a second special session and Dewhurst would lock down the Senate chambers and prevent members from leaving.

The first session was to end by midnight Tuesday, but the Senate adjourned at 2:30 p.m. and the House was expected to adjourn minutes later.

Dewhurst earlier had told reporters Perry was expected to call a second special session minutes after both houses adjourned.

Of the 12 Democratic senators, the only one to show up for a 2 p.m. session today was Ken Armbrister of Victoria.

In May, more than 50 representatives hid out for several days to block action on congressional redistricting, forcing the governor to call a special session.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: awol; democrats; quorum; redistricting; texas
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To: mathluv
Supposedly, RATliff (RINO) may not support it.


He may not support the redistricting bill but I don't think he'll run.... I believe I read earlier that he indicated he be there for quorum calls,


81 posted on 07/28/2003 3:51:36 PM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: CedarDave
Please add a link to this thread on the NM locale page.

Whatevery you NM FReepers can do to legally harrass (FReep) the TX Chicken D's, your Texas FReeper brothers and sisters will be abligued.
82 posted on 07/28/2003 3:53:46 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse
ABQ Journal has the story up, too. BTW, here is a related story from Saturday's Journal regarding a redistricting effort by the Dims in NM. Notice that several of them are against it, saying their fellow party members should just work harder to get elected:

Saturday, July 26, 2003

State May Follow Texas' Lead in Redistricting
By Loie Fecteau Journal Politics Writer
    SANTA FE — Democratic legislative leaders might reopen congressional redistricting in New Mexico — to benefit Democrats — if Texas persists in redrawing its political boundaries to help Republicans.
    "We very well could come in and look at those congressional seats again," said House Speaker Ben Lujan, D-Santa Fe. "We are entitled to do that."
    Lujan noted in an interview this week that Colorado lawmakers recently redrew that state's court-drawn congressional boundaries to aid Republicans and that Texas is trying to do the same.
    A state district judge decided New Mexico's congressional boundaries, using the 2000 Census, after the Democratic-controlled Legislature and former Gov. Gary Johnson, a Republican, failed to agree on a new political map.
    Senate President Pro Tem Richard Romero, D-Albuquerque, contends legislators would be within their rights to redo congressional redistricting since it was decided by a judge and not by lawmakers and the governor. Romero unsuccessfully challenged Rep. Heather Wilson, R-N.M., in New Mexico's Albuquerque-based 1st Congressional District in 2002.
    "Richard Romero would like to reopen redistricting to give him a better chance of challenging Heather," said House Minority Leader Ted Hobbs, R-Albuquerque. "We would fight that tooth and nail."
    Hobbs noted that New Mexico's overall redistricting battle, which included a special session in September 2001 and two court trials, cost New Mexico taxpayers more than $4 million.
    Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson has said he is reluctant to put redistricting on the agenda of a special session he plans to call in October on state tax policy. Richardson said he might change his mind, depending on what other states do.
    "The main focus of the session is going to be tax reform, but that doesn't preclude redistricting," said Dave Contarino, Richardson's chief of staff. "It's not off the table and certainly what Texas is doing really concerns the governor."
    Meanwhile, members of the Democratic state central committee cast a voice vote a week ago against a resolution offered by Rep. Edward Sandoval, D-Albuquerque, to support redoing congressional redistricting in New Mexico if Texas does.
    Several Democrats who live in New Mexico's southern 2nd Congressional District, represented by Rep. Steve Pearce, R-N.M., spoke against reopening redistricting at the meeting in Albuquerque.
    "If we're doing it for the benefit of just one congressional district, that one congressional district ought to work harder to defeat Heather Wilson," said Michael Flynn of Las Cruces.
    Sandoval was undeterred by the vote against his resolution on reopening redistricting. "We can still go there," he said later.


83 posted on 07/28/2003 3:55:34 PM PDT by CedarDave (The Dems look for a shadow on the brightest day, call it the dark of night and blame George W. Bush)
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To: wkcoop
LOL
84 posted on 07/28/2003 3:56:13 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I think it's the fact that redistricting isn't seen as big deal that is going to nail the Dems. The public is seeing them taking extreme actions over something petty.
85 posted on 07/28/2003 3:56:15 PM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: anymouse
ABQ Journal excerpt:

updated at 4:10 p.m.

AUSTIN — Eleven of 12 Senate Democrats boycotted the chamber Monday in a protest over a second special session on congressional redistricting and headed to Albuquerque, N.M., in a move reminiscent of a walkout by House Democrats over the issue in May.

No word if they are staying in the Governor's mansion in Santa Fe.
86 posted on 07/28/2003 4:06:42 PM PDT by CedarDave (The Dems look for a shadow on the brightest day, call it the dark of night and blame George W. Bush)
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To: deport
I don't think he will run, but we need every vote we can get, and we won't get his.
87 posted on 07/28/2003 4:09:06 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: wkcoop
If Perry has any, he would do what Jeb did after the fiasco down here in Florida....deliberately halt and slow the funds to those local politicians who made an *** of themselves on television. He should freeze all funds to their districts until the scum return.
88 posted on 07/28/2003 4:14:24 PM PDT by Beck_isright (Remember the Blue Ridge Corporation!!!! Damn the torpedoes and SEC, full speed ahead!)
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To: anymouse
Please add a link to this thread on the NM locale page.

Done!

89 posted on 07/28/2003 4:16:45 PM PDT by CedarDave (The Dems look for a shadow on the brightest day, call it the dark of night and blame George W. Bush)
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To: mathluv
I don't think he will run, but we need every vote we can get,


Agreed, but I think they have 16 votes and that will pass it..... That's why they are running. If they didn't have the 16 votes necessary then no need to run.
90 posted on 07/28/2003 4:22:08 PM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: swilhelm73
Without quorum the Senate cannot pass any bills on anything.
91 posted on 07/28/2003 4:32:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: pogo101
Don't you suppose that the House Democrats would then flee all over again to bust quorum on the impeachment motions?
92 posted on 07/28/2003 4:34:09 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
What about Senate Rules changes or the like?
93 posted on 07/28/2003 4:36:51 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: mattdono
Can't impeach them now. They've abandoned their positions. Gov Perry needs to call a special election to replace them.
94 posted on 07/28/2003 4:42:28 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: pogo101
3) TX House IMPEACHES some of bolting Dems


Under what authority would the House impeach a state Senator? Even if they could it takes 2/3rds of the Senate to convict.....



4) Upon such impeachment, those Dems are automatically suspended from their Senate seats, and the Gov. may appoint provisional replacement Senators. (TX Const., Art. 15, sec. 5.)


This Article isn't referring to Senators.... only the following:
Impeachment of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Attorney General, Commissioner of the General Land Office, Comptroller and the Judges of the Supreme Court, Court of Appeals and District Court shall be tried by the Senate. (Amended Nov. 7, 1995.)
95 posted on 07/28/2003 4:44:29 PM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: swilhelm73
What about Senate Rules changes or the like?


A quorum is spelled out in the Texas Constitution as 2/3rds of the members in each house..... So it would take an amendment to the Constitution....
96 posted on 07/28/2003 4:50:14 PM PDT by deport (On a hot day don't kick a cow chip...... only democrat enablers..)
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To: deport; pogo101
I just looked at the relevant Texas rules. Only the Senate can vote on expulsion of a Senator and that requires a 2/3 vote of all members, not just all members present. In any event, to my understanding of Rule 5.02 requires a quorum for the Senate to conduct any business.
97 posted on 07/28/2003 4:52:22 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: deport
Well, I was wondering more along the lines of other changes that the Dems don't want. For example, could the Senate pass a rule fining any member failing to show up for a quorom?

Charge $10,000 a day missed with no cap and see how long before the Dems come back...
98 posted on 07/28/2003 4:53:35 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: deport; swilhelm73
Passage of any proposed amendment requires 2/3 of all members as well, not just of members present.
99 posted on 07/28/2003 4:54:15 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: MissAmericanPie
a conservative state, and yet dislodging these liberal ticks from Austin and from power is almost impossible.

No. It just hasn't been done because the Republican wimps we have in Austin don't have the b@lls to do anything. Those dims have given up on their jobs. The governor needs to declare their seats vacant and call a special election to replace them. I am not holding my breath waiting for it to happen, though.

100 posted on 07/28/2003 4:54:15 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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