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Pushy homosexuality: Joseph Farah on growing backlash of public opinion against sodomy
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, July 30, 2003 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 07/29/2003 11:03:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

A new USA Today /CNN /Gallup Survey suggests there is a backlash of public opinion against homosexuality after the U.S. Supreme Court decision overturning Texas' sodomy law.

It's not surprising.

The decision was widely seen as a judicial push for the agenda of homosexual political activists eager to see their lifestyle not only accepted nationwide but promoted by government and major cultural institutions.

Defenders of the Texas law had contended the ultimate goal of the case was not to end sodomy laws, but to advance the "ambitious agenda" of homosexual activists. Justice Antonin Scalia, in a scathing dissent, agreed.

"The court has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda," he wrote.

The public seems to agree as well.

Asked whether same-sex relations between consenting adults should be legal, 48 percent in the new survey said yes, while 46 percent said no.

Prior to the ruling in early May, the ratio peaked at 60 percent in favor, 35 percent opposed. In other words, the ruling may have had just the opposite of its intended effect.

According to the numbers, 49 percent of respondents said homosexuality should not be considered "an acceptable alternative lifestyle," while 46 percent said it should. This marks the first time since 1997 that more people were opposed.

Opposition to civil unions has also risen, according to the poll, even amid recent developments promoting them. WorldNetDaily reported the New York Times recently decided to publish notices of same-sex ceremonies along with its wedding announcements, and the September-October issue of Conde Nast's Bride's magazine currently on newsstands features an article on homosexual weddings.

Fifty-seven percent polled said they opposed civil unions – the most opposition since the question was first asked in 2000 – while 40 percent voiced support.

This week, New York City announced plans to launch the nation's first high school geared specifically and exclusively for homosexuals, lesbians and "transgendered" youth.

Recently the Canadian courts decided to recognize homosexual marriages. The California state Assembly's passage of a historic bill that would award virtually all the rights of marriage to homosexual "domestic partners."

Is public opinion still important when the courts are taking the matter out of the hands of the people? You bet it is. In fact, the majority opinion in the historic Supreme Court decision in the Texas case even cited growing public acceptance of homosexuality as a basis of its ruling.

Likewise, on my new radio show this week, I interviewed a spokeswoman for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation who said morality is simply a matter for the public to decide through politics.

Asked why polygamists are still getting a tough battle in the courts, she said it is simply because there are not enough polygamists and they are not sufficiently organized to make their case.

She's right. And just as Scalia predicted in his dissent, you can bank on polygamists organizing around the same legal language employed by the homosexual activists. You can bank on incest practitioners organizing along these lines. You can bank on those who want to see reductions in the age of consent organizing along these lines. You can even bank on those who are into bestiality organizing along these lines.

It's coming. That's the future. Just watch the news.

That's how America decides what is right and wrong today – based on public-opinion polls and the clout of narrow, special-interest groups.

The truth is, there is little difference in my eyes between polygamy and homosexuality – except perhaps that there are far more biblical injunctions against homosexuality and in far stronger terms and without any exceptions.

It was once true in America that our laws were based on such things as the Ten Commandments and biblical law. That is no longer the case. Today, it is simply based on which way the wind is blowing. And the wind is to the backs of the homosexual /transsexual /cross-gendered lobby.

Why? Are there no eternal truths anymore? Is there no right and wrong? Is it all just a question of pop-culture whim?

Today, homosexuals not only are a protected class of people based on their sexual behavior, they are a celebrated group of people on television, in movies, in books and in the media. They are portrayed as heroes, quite literally. And what places them in that category is what they do in their bedrooms – and sometimes in public restrooms.

Backlash?

My guess is we ain't seen nothing yet.




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Wednesday, July 30, 2003

Quote of the Day by goldstategop

1 posted on 07/29/2003 11:03:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
That's how America decides what is right and wrong today – based on public-opinion polls and the clout of narrow, special-interest groups.

After the sheeple are sufficiently softened up by the homo-promo junk in movies, on TV, and K-12 sodomy acceptance training (as in California for the last 2 years).

Backlash?

>>>My guess is we ain't seen nothing yet.<<<

I hope hope hope Farah is right!

2 posted on 07/29/2003 11:16:39 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: JohnHuang2
My guess is we ain't seen nothing yet.

Well, you ain't seen nothing. Period.

The public has a short memory. And the homophobe crazies will pull off some stunt, like gunning down a bunch of gays. And the reaction will swing the other way -- for a few weeks.

In reality, most people don't care that much about the subject. Yeah, the fundies are always minding everyone elses business. But most people have their own lives to worry about.

3 posted on 07/29/2003 11:23:08 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: JohnHuang2
I've always thought that adults were responsible for their own behavior. But now that they keep getting in my face, I fight them every time I turn around. They have no right to oppose their values on me or my kids.
4 posted on 07/30/2003 12:03:39 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Agreed. If they wanted to have the freedom to do what they want in the bedroom, gays and lesbians have it just like heterosexuals do. What they're really after is to force the public to accept their lifestyle, not just to be able to have consensual sex. And that's where the backlash is building against them.
5 posted on 07/30/2003 12:36:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jlogajan
The people, in the Hamptons, aren't " fundies " and they are up in arms about the homosexuals using the beaches as no tell motels and leaving 100s of used condoms all over the sand/dunes.

Just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean that ONLY " fundies ", as you so smarmily put it, " care ".

6 posted on 07/30/2003 12:39:17 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: jlogajan
Yeah, the fundies are always minding everyone elses business.

Spoken like a true petulant liberal.

7 posted on 07/30/2003 12:42:23 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: nopardons
Just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean that ONLY " fundies ", as you so smarmily put it, " care ".

I always find it ironic that those that exhibit the least sensitivity in moral issues, consider themselves the most sophisticated. I was always under the impression that sensitivity is proportional to cognizance.

8 posted on 07/30/2003 12:49:58 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: jlogajan
And the homophobe crazies will pull off some stunt, like gunning down a bunch of gays.

I'm curious why you, who consistently go out of your way to support the homosexual agenda, while saying no one is interested in it, are so rabidly hateful to anyone who disagrees with your slavish affection for sodomites?

9 posted on 07/30/2003 12:53:49 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Woahhs
How right you are. And lest you forget, or didn't know, it's always the fringers ( you know, the MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THOUERS, who aren't really, but think they are ), who come up with this sludge.
10 posted on 07/30/2003 12:55:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: pram
I'm curious why you, who consistently go out of your way to support the homosexual agenda, while saying no one is interested in it, are so rabidly hateful to anyone who disagrees with your slavish affection for sodomites?

I should think it would be fairly self-evident.

11 posted on 07/30/2003 1:02:54 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: Woahhs
Well, someone has to point it out. There are young people reading FR.
13 posted on 07/30/2003 1:06:21 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: nunya bidness
Kindly stick to the subject of the thread. Inane drivel and slimey implications about Bohemian Grove, are juvenile.
14 posted on 07/30/2003 1:08:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nunya bidness; Jim Robinson
As you can see, Jim, this poster is now trying to disrupt yet another thread.
15 posted on 07/30/2003 1:09:19 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Lighten up. It was a JOKE.
16 posted on 07/30/2003 1:11:18 AM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: pram
Oh, by no means was any criticism intended. I just wanted to be the first to connect the dots;)
17 posted on 07/30/2003 1:11:43 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: nunya bidness
It wasn't fuuny and you HAVE been warned already tonight. One would think that you'd finally " get it "; one would be wrong.
18 posted on 07/30/2003 1:12:56 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Woahhs
I always think it's funny that the (usually) libertarians or other homo-apologists always say "no one cares" and they feverishly go to every "gay" thread to support the "gay" agenda!
19 posted on 07/30/2003 1:15:08 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: nopardons
One could also say "Bless your heart" but it doesn't matter.

Find someone else to pillory.You're victimhood is boring and better served by Dr. Phil.

20 posted on 07/30/2003 1:16:55 AM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: pram
Everyone, on this thread, supporter of the "gay agenda", or the little disruptor, who imgaines he's " clever/funny ", are Libertarains.

You caught on to them. :-)

21 posted on 07/30/2003 1:20:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nunya bidness
Find someone else to pillory.You're victimhood is boring and better served by Dr. Phil.

He's not the one that introduced other issues and then retreated to the "joke" defense.

22 posted on 07/30/2003 1:20:11 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: nunya bidness
Such a projection complex, you have. LOL

Just read your post to me, as though it were addressed to you. :-)

23 posted on 07/30/2003 1:21:19 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Woahhs
I'm a " she ", and thanks for the stand up reply to my stalker.
24 posted on 07/30/2003 1:22:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You're right. I apologize.
25 posted on 07/30/2003 1:23:42 AM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: pram
As someone said on another thread: they hear a little voice that tells them it's wrong, and think that if they can get everyone to go along with them the voice will go silent.
26 posted on 07/30/2003 1:24:06 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: nopardons
I'm a " she ", and thanks for the stand up reply to my stalker.

Beg your pardon Ma'am.

27 posted on 07/30/2003 1:25:55 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: jlogajan
"Yeah, the fundies are always minding everyone elses business. But most people have their own lives to worry about."

Yeah, gee, we "fundies" are out to mess up your life, pal. Look out.............we're comin' to get you next. Shake in your boots, wimp.

In the meantime, I'll let you watch two guys f**king each other in the yard next door while your kids play in your back yard. Blame that on us, too. I'll send 'em all your way, into your neighborhood, so that you can "not care" even more.

28 posted on 07/30/2003 1:26:19 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Woahhs
As someone said on another thread: they hear a little voice that tells them it's wrong, and think that if they can get everyone to go along with them the voice will go silent.

That was me!

29 posted on 07/30/2003 1:31:49 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: JohnHuang2
Well this thread didn't take 3 posts before the religion bashing started. Ho hum...
30 posted on 07/30/2003 1:33:49 AM PDT by weegee
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To: pram
That was me!

If it means anything to you, I will carry that comment for the rest of my days.

31 posted on 07/30/2003 1:34:19 AM PDT by Woahhs
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To: nunya bidness
Thank you;appology accepted.
32 posted on 07/30/2003 1:35:01 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: weegee
Well this thread didn't take 3 posts before the religion bashing started. Ho hum...

But note how long it lasted.

33 posted on 07/30/2003 1:36:02 AM PDT by Woahhs
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Quite alright, it's sometimes difficult to tell the sex of a poster. :-)
34 posted on 07/30/2003 1:36:17 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Woahhs
I said on that other thread, that the homosexuals could recruit or kill every human on the planet, but that Voice would still be there in the heart, telling them they are doing wrong.
That's why they have such high drug and alcohol abuse, what to speak of suicide - trying to drown out that Voice. That's why I hate it so much - I have a very close relative who has succumbed to the allure (yuck) of same sex attraction. I love this person dearly. I don't want to see others go the same route.
35 posted on 07/30/2003 1:41:17 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Woahhs
I suspect that it'll crop up again in this thread. There was a discussion yesterday that ran to 500+ posts that had numerous antireligion diatribes.

The topic was a proposed boycott of Bravo (not even including parent company NBC). That discussion didn't stay on topic long but had much of the usual shouting matches.

36 posted on 07/30/2003 1:43:47 AM PDT by weegee
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To: pram
Homosexuality, pedophelia, infidelity, polygamy, beastiality..Perhaps Americans have finally realized where all this is taking us. The gutter is not a nice place to rear children. And, I want to say that this is not about those homosexuals who are good people, living decent lives. This is about those who want special treatment because of sexual preference. They have now pushed it too far with the help of the gays in the media, government, academia, the church, etc. We get so frustrated with our local newspaper because,so often, we see on the front page some article glamorizing the gay life style..
37 posted on 07/30/2003 1:50:44 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: goldstategop
Yep. People are getting damned sick of the sickos and their socially destructive agenda.
38 posted on 07/30/2003 2:11:24 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: JohnHuang2
Is public opinion still important when the courts are taking the matter out of the hands of the people? You bet it is. In fact, the majority opinion in the historic Supreme Court decision in the Texas case even cited growing public acceptance of homosexuality as a basis of its ruling.

Maybe the liberal's public acceptance of homosexual behavior. They forget about asking the conservatives what they think about this subject. I don't agree with the court's decision.

40 posted on 07/30/2003 5:36:26 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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Well this thread didn't take 3 posts before the religion bashing started. Ho hum...

Yeah, how unfair. It should have just stayed a homosexual bashing thread. Boo hoo.

41 posted on 07/30/2003 8:36:40 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: JohnHuang2
It's not a matter of anybody being in "anybodie's" bedroom

Its about recruiting in grade, Jr High, High Schools and Colleges

its about filling the airwaves with smut-garbage TV shows and movie stars
who sell the Sodomite agenda like they do Soda Pop and overpriced tennis shoes

Its about the destruction of America by tearing out its Christian base ..The Family

The sodomite agenda along with many "liberal" (libertine) agendas will do just that-destroy America

America cannot stand without its mandate from God ...He will not support those who return us to paganism of the self..humanism..sexual immorality...once we have gotten to the point where we no longer chose to discriminate between good and evil ..we are toast..dry toast

Eventually once all the anti taditional agendas are realized the threat of anarchy will be enough to martial the very forces that use & promote anarchy to impose a dictatorship..

When the peasants are found to be unable to rule themselves...they will of course need to be ruled-
The peasants will have been shown to not be worthy of self rule and will give up their liberty for security..
This is what the elites have been waiting for ...the failure of the grand American experiment..
(The elites of course ignore/deny their own vile paganism)

Our freedom worked..once upon a time because we were a moral people..who were able to bridal our own passions...self control- spirit over flesh- was once considered a virtue..it is now considered a mental dissorder...
42 posted on 07/30/2003 8:48:37 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: pram
think that if they can get everyone to go along with them the voice will go silent.

The silence of the sacrificial lambs of the radical Queer agenda.. won't be long before they'll catch something that will silence them forever.. what a waste of a promising life.. :(

43 posted on 07/30/2003 9:13:24 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: jlogajan
The topic of this thread was about the backlash against homosexuality being shoved in everyones' face.

I'm sure that you can find a nice thread to show your religious intolerance on elsewhere on FR.

46 posted on 07/30/2003 10:37:58 AM PDT by weegee
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Sure is a very public thing (especially in the media) for something that is reportedly a "private" act.

Parades, tv shows, a segregated public school...

I guess that it was easier for some people to accept this behavior as long as homosexuals would be quiet about their bedroom (and public park) proclivities.

Maybe we could get the media to saturate coverage of abortions, graphicly showing the victorious woman's fetal tissue. Let people know what it is that they are supporting when they support the abortion agenda too.

47 posted on 07/30/2003 10:54:13 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
If we homophobes f*ked in public, would the heterophobes throw a hissy fit? If sexual identity in public is sauce for the gander, it ought to be sauce for the goose as well!
48 posted on 07/30/2003 10:58:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jlogajan
In reality, most people don't care that much about the subject.

Not really, the Quinnipiac poll found 58% think other otherwise.

49 posted on 07/30/2003 11:06:04 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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