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Republican Breakup?
PhxNews ^ | Joe Duarte

Posted on 07/30/2003 11:25:27 AM PDT by hsmomx3

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
>I ain't a homo, but if I was, I wouldn't be pushing it
>into other's lives and yes, I would expect to be left
>alone.

Sounds like your a, err.... liberal!

Redneck
- If you don't agree with us, you ain't no American!

51 posted on 07/30/2003 12:37:33 PM PDT by RedneckRampage
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To: CyberCowboy777
Bravo, brother. This nation started rolling downhill the day we made "tolerance" a greater virtue than "self control." No one should be jailed, no one should be harassed...but my freedom of speech to say that God disapproves of immoral behaviour should not be branded "hate speech" by the PC Gestapo. I have known many nice homosexual people...and through they were smart, fine and sensitive (on any issue but their own, that is) they were and are dead wrong about the issue. When I see a person driving a truck full speed at a sheer cliff (sometimes with their family in the back!) it is my obligation to warn them that their actions are viewed as wrong by God and man, and that to continue the path they are on will harm themselves and others. Sadly, some people will simple continue to drive and to insist that they don't believe in cliffs.

On a similar bent, some people may think that it would be fun to stick their face in a glass furnace, and when they do, and get hopelessly burned, demand that I pay the insurance premiums. What a world. Humans!

52 posted on 07/30/2003 12:37:47 PM PDT by 50sDad ("Can't sleep...clowns will eat me!")
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To: Deb
First, I am honored to recieve your post. You are my hero when it comes to sharp tongued insults. Miss seeing you around.

However, who the heck is going to blow up my little hill in the lost swamps of northeast rhode island?

My road doesn't even get plowed.
I consider that a good thing.
53 posted on 07/30/2003 12:39:36 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: unoAmerican
>Come convention time, we'll be sure to keep you far from
>the stage.

Great, just what we need, more Political Correctness.

Redneck
- If you don't agree with us, you ain't no American!
54 posted on 07/30/2003 12:39:57 PM PDT by RedneckRampage
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To: Dane
The modern democrat party is basically a religion on par with fundemantalist Islam in their hatred of other views, and their miniscule cousins, the Libertarians parrot the demo religion on social issues, IMO.

Hyperbole is not always your friend.
55 posted on 07/30/2003 12:40:31 PM PDT by Belial
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To: marron
Two excellent posts.
56 posted on 07/30/2003 12:42:04 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Locally there is no hope for pubbies

In Alaska we find Sen Murkowski presenting a Bill to speed up transfer of land entitlements from the Feds to the State and native Corporations per prior agreements. It's a lot of acreage, bigger than many States. This is very strong and very Conservative. Looks good for Murkowski, who will be up for election with probably former Gov Knowles as opponent.

57 posted on 07/30/2003 12:44:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Cultural Jihad
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On the other hand, the RINOS, the militia nutjobs, the racists, those who want to nuke Mecca, and moral-liberals who turn their blind eyes to evil should be encouraged to leave the Party.
<<<

Who would be left?
58 posted on 07/30/2003 12:45:09 PM PDT by evilC
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To: 50sDad
I am with you 100%.

We can hold values and even demand limits, but sounding like death squads is no representation of G_d.

I hate big Government partly because one day it can turn on me - I will not help give it that power now just because I disagree with something.
60 posted on 07/30/2003 12:48:40 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: RedneckRampage
Modern liberalism refuses to leave anyone alone, ever.

The entire party could not sleep at night knowing there was one last grizzly old prospector out in the desert with his mule, living his own life, even if they had enslaved the rest of the world.

America was founded on liberty and the rights of the individual.

If I was a liberal, I wouldn't be able to guarantee that if you decided to invade my space or otherwise harrass me, I would blow your head off.

You're giving rednecks a bad name.
61 posted on 07/30/2003 12:49:29 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Nevermind. You have enough tragedy in your life with Paddy "The Dumbest" Kennedy representing you. But I thought all you leave-me-aloners were pro-defense and if you love me you should care that I might get blown to bite-sized pieces by followers of the religion of peace.

What kind of a damn friend are you anyways?

62 posted on 07/30/2003 12:49:49 PM PDT by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: hsmomx3
It seems to me that the 'Rat party is also a coalition of incompatible groups. E.g.: black supremicists vs. white liberals, homeless advocates who want free housing vs. enviros who want no housing built, apologists for radical Islam vs. radical feminists.
63 posted on 07/30/2003 12:50:12 PM PDT by snarkpup ("Once the Earth goes, the whole planet's going to be next." - Kelly Bundy)
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To: axxmann
please tell me when they last heard the words "smaller government" from the mouth of any republican?

1983

64 posted on 07/30/2003 12:50:43 PM PDT by putupon (this text is to occupy the space between the parentheses)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
There has been a fight going on in the Republican Party as long as I have been a member, the small gov types vs the Rino's. The RINO's are the co-opt the rat party types and they are loosing and have been since AUH2O. When the small gov types are in the majority the National Party will fall into line.
65 posted on 07/30/2003 12:51:28 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: hsmomx3
Funny, I see a breakup of the Dems: the Liberals, the DNC-centrists, the Hard Left going over to the Greens, and at least two ethnic-spoils parties based on black and hispanic Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton types. . .
66 posted on 07/30/2003 12:51:36 PM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: RedneckRampage
Ho wmuch more power do you want to give Governmnet?
67 posted on 07/30/2003 12:52:41 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: hsmomx3
I read this far and decided this mental midget knows not of what he speaks:

"If you think it is the proper role of a Jeffersonian state to steal money from citizens to build civic plazas and university labs…you might be a Republican."

(Thomas Jefferson would gag if he read this.)
68 posted on 07/30/2003 12:54:03 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Deb
Oh, I worry about you all the time. That's why I pay so much in taxes, in the vain hope that they will protect you from being blown up. The world would be a darker place without you in it.

I'm just not worried about me.
69 posted on 07/30/2003 12:54:08 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Little Bill
When the small gov types are in the majority the National Party will fall into line.

It's the only option we got.

70 posted on 07/30/2003 12:54:31 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: Little Bill
My vision may be clouded from living in Smuggler's Cove among the Mooncussers for so long, but it looks to me like the small government guys are losing power.
71 posted on 07/30/2003 12:57:11 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: dubyaismypresident
The Conservitive movement has moved a LONG way to acheving dominance since I was 18 and Youth For Goldwater. If you are young and looking foreward, as opposed to me, old and looking backward, it is difficult to see the progress.
72 posted on 07/30/2003 1:02:33 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: luckydevi
"I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. ... The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom, and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."- Ronald Reagan

Another lozertarian whackjob...

73 posted on 07/30/2003 1:08:39 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: luckydevi
"I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. ... The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom, and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."- Ronald Reagan
74 posted on 07/30/2003 1:12:44 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
If I lived in the Communist State of RI, and being a Masshole that is saying something, I would feel the same way.

To put it another way, New England, except NH, are the Warsaw Pact of the 21st Century. When these places have driven have driven their citizens (proles?) into penurity, set up the Republican razor.

75 posted on 07/30/2003 1:13:38 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: Xenalyte
I read this far and decided this mental midget knows not of what he speaks:

You need to turn on your sarcasm detector. Lots of Republicans out there looking to have pet multi-million (or billion) dollar projects paid for by the taxpayers. Contrasing their ideals with Jefferson's was meant to be a slap at them.

76 posted on 07/30/2003 1:13:44 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Reagan was also a Democrat for many, many years. He finally hit his stride as a Republican though.
77 posted on 07/30/2003 1:14:21 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Check your Freep-Mail but don't slash your wrists after reading it.)
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To: hsmomx3
Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Republican.
78 posted on 07/30/2003 1:15:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Republican.

Never give up, never surrender, never compromise, this is a God Blessed Nation, we just surrendered to Satan for awhile as a trial. It is slow but we will win!.

79 posted on 07/30/2003 1:24:37 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: hsmomx3
Wow, breaking up again. Man, how many times is it going to break up?
80 posted on 07/30/2003 1:26:40 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Check your Freep-Mail but don't slash your wrists after reading it.)
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To: hsmomx3
the Religious Nut Party

There IS a Religious Nut Party, it's the DemocRATS.

Their religion has two main tenents: environmentalism and sexual adventurism.

Don't think they take those things religiously?

Just try speaking out in public against either.

81 posted on 07/30/2003 1:30:58 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Little Bill
Well if you can be optimistic living in an efficient socialist state, I ought to be a little more cheery living in a totally corrupt one.

You're right about the Warsaw Pact.
But sometimes lately I almost think the sheeple are sleeping less soundly.

But there are still many a long hour til dawn.
82 posted on 07/30/2003 1:44:53 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: hsmomx3
Outsider here. Certainly do not presume to get into American politics. Do not pay taxes and cannot vote. Having said that - A word on Mr Foxworthy. Yes, I have heard the man, now I turn anything off when I hear or see this individual.

Like Roger Moore, he makes a huge joke out of certain people. That is ok of course. This man is on safe ground with his humour. Perhaps people do not dare criticise. All good fun, of course. Problem is that he is a white liberals dream. Pour on the stereotype and make believe it is fun.

Ok Foxworthy, you gets Peter Libra's gold medal. You deserve it. Question is when you mount the podium, Where should the gold medal be put?

When and if people see though his "hate' which is what it is, he won't seem funny anymore. Flame away. Semi-icons are there to be shot down.

83 posted on 07/30/2003 1:47:56 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: hsmomx3
This A$$hole just doesn't understand that it only takes two words to unify all of these splinters and many dim as well.

"Hitlery 2004"
84 posted on 07/30/2003 1:51:23 PM PDT by Big Mack
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To: Lael
PhxNews is an online outlet where people post articles/links/their opinions. The link is: http://www.PhxNews.org
85 posted on 07/30/2003 1:54:21 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (I want a Napolitano recall NOW!)
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To: Lael
I messed up!! It's http://www.PhxNews.com
86 posted on 07/30/2003 1:55:33 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (I want a Napolitano recall NOW!)
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To: hobbes1
Pat Buchanan and Libertarians?Arent those two schools of thought opposites?
87 posted on 07/30/2003 1:56:15 PM PDT by armed_in_sydney
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To: hsmomx3
Barf alert please.

Pure drivel.

88 posted on 07/30/2003 1:57:08 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
But there are still many a long hour til dawn.

It is always darkest before the dawn, after 40 years of exile in this socalist hell, I think that the tide is turning.

When I look at the young FReepers in the Boston area and their conservitive ideals, and the youth of the libertarians, I think that in time we can have another Gadansk.

89 posted on 07/30/2003 2:00:17 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Republican.

A person has to be something if he wants to play in the game. If fellow Rs are doing things that embarass, call them out, demand justice!

90 posted on 07/30/2003 2:02:39 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: CyberCowboy777
>Ho wmuch more power do you want to give Governmnet?

Ok, let's repeal all laws and let people do what they want because you don't want "big government".

We are a Christian country, we need to pass laws that reflect that.

Man, I thought this was a conservative forum. some of you guys sound like appeazers to me

Redneck
- If you don't agree with us, you ain't no American!
91 posted on 07/30/2003 2:05:05 PM PDT by RedneckRampage
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To: CyberCowboy777
There is such a thing as a healthy society made up of individual citizens who decide what the norm is in their communities.

Society has a right to protest federally funded public schools agenda to present this diseased life choice before their children as normal or without hazzards.

In fact the public school has no business what so ever discussing it or teaching anything besides the three R's. Morality is best left to the parents to instruct.

92 posted on 07/30/2003 2:19:51 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Skibane; jlogajan; AdamSelene235; coloradan; jimt; freeeee; Pahuanui; tdadams; ...
There are those people that want to be left alone,
and there are those people that refuse to leave others alone


Ping for a common sense, hence controversial, article.
93 posted on 07/30/2003 2:26:29 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: MissAmericanPie
You are correct in all your statements.

In an earlier post I took the same position on schools. I just did not expand on it.


But you cannot force morality and at some point any power you give government to try and do so will turn on you.

Government needs only the most minimal amount of power to enforce a basic rule of law.
94 posted on 07/30/2003 2:27:25 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: hsmomx3; cateizgr8
Looks about right to me.
95 posted on 07/30/2003 2:31:52 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: hsmomx3
Oops, part right. I don't think we are 'adventuring' in Iraq. We are doing some overdue housecleaning.
96 posted on 07/30/2003 2:34:27 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: My2Cents
You make a very good point. Too many people castigate Snowe, for example, over the 35% they don't agree with rather than the 65% they do agree with.

Some realism is in order. Tom Foley was as liberal as they come, but he was always a big 2nd Amendment supporter. When asked why, he replied that he would be tossed out of office if he backed gun control.

In many areas of the country, a Republican can only be elected if they are pro-abortion. I know that outrages some people on this forum, but the alternative would be a pro-abortion 'Rat. In choosing political candidates, heed the words of Mayor Ed Koch: "If you agree with me on 9 of 12 issues, vote for me. If you agree with me on 12 of 12, see a psychiatrist."
97 posted on 07/30/2003 2:37:35 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: gcruse
While the premise of a limited government is to be hailed this writer is not correct in his break down of 'republican' factions or the ideologies.

I am a Right Wing Christian Conservative, I am also a Fiscal Conservative. I don’t hate gays or brown people. I am anti-abortion and anti- federal tax. I don't want to outlaw porn or guns. I don't want D.C. funding welfare or public schools or churches. I do support State and local control even if they want to display the Ten Commandments, a Buddhist bell or a statue of MLK. I am against the Drug War but not for legalizing pot across the board. (it should be a state and local issue).

This writer only wants to separate us so that we cannot work together on the issue we agree upon.
98 posted on 07/30/2003 2:40:15 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Ed Koch, by the way, has endorsed George W. Bush for re-election....another strike against Bush with some, I'm sure.
99 posted on 07/30/2003 2:41:08 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: anniegetyourgun
ROFL
100 posted on 07/30/2003 2:42:42 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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