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My Letter To Bill O'Reilly Tonight
The Factor-Fox News ^ | 7-30-2003 | Self

Posted on 07/30/2003 8:03:21 PM PDT by Matchett-PI

Greetings Mr. O'Reilly,

If you're not just playing dumb, and really don't know where the WMD are, may I suggest that you get Kenneth R. Timmerman (of Insight Mag.) as a guest on your show --- SOON!

This is the second night in a row I watched you parroting the Democrat mantra, demanding that Bush tell us where the WMD are.

You appear to be out of the loop. That's not good that someone in your position is so much in the dark about what's going on.

I've provided you some succinct excerpts and links to what Mr. Timmerman wrote when he accompanied Powell to Syria on May 3, 2003. This will get you up to speed. I'll look forward to seeing Mr. Timmerman on your show.

Warm regards, [Name and Town]

Sending a Serious Message to Syria

Posted May 28, 2003 By Kenneth R. Timmerman

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/437029.html

"The May 3 meeting in the presidential palace on the hilltop overlooking Damascus was short and to the point.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, flanked by State Department Arabists, told Syrian dictator Bashar Assad that the U.S. victory in Iraq had changed the way America plans to do business in the Middle East.

The days of the cozy deals and of winking and nodding at Syrian support for terrorism were ended. He then presented Assad with a list of U.S. demands that was nothing short of breathtaking.

Powell told the Syrian president that the United States requires him to help in the search for hidden Iraqi weapons.

The United States believes the weapons were taken in convoys of tanker trucks to Syria last fall, along with key production equipment, and buried in the Syrian desert shortly before U.N. arms inspectors returned to Iraq.

Powell demanded that Syria locate and turn over Iraqi weapons scientists and top-ranking Ba'ath Party officials who had been granted sanctuary by Syria once Gulf War II began. ... [end excerpt]

Not-So-Secret Iraqi-Syrian Deals - Posted May 28, 2003

By Kenneth R. Timmerman

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=437030

Middle East analysts will tell you that Syria and Iraq long have been enemies, citing their leaders' rival visions of Ba'ath Party dictatorship. And they were right until Hafez Assad died in June 2000. Almost as soon as son Bashar took power, things began to change.

In November 2000, the younger Assad agreed to reopen a 500-mile oil pipeline, which soon began hauling an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 barrels per day from the Kirkuk oil fields of Iraq to Syria's Mediterranean export terminal at Banias. For Assad and Saddam Hussein, it was a gold mine. The pipeline deal gave Saddam an estimated $1.5 billion to $2 billion per year on the black market, with hefty transit fees going to Assad in the bargain.

Just two months later, on Jan. 31, 2001, the two countries agreed to double their $500 million-per-year trade, and triple it by 2002.

Gary C. Gambill, writing in the Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, reported that Assad had dispatched his younger brother, Maher Assad, to Baghdad on a secret two-day visit shortly before the trade agreement was inked to discuss military cooperation with Qusay Hussein.

Following that visit, agreements were drafted to hide Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in Syria should U.N. inspections resume, and later, when the coalition attack became imminent, to provide sanctuary to fleeing Iraqi leaders.

According to published reports, Syria also served as a conduit for weapons and spare parts that Iraq purchased on the black market in Russia, Ukraine, the Czech Republic and France, in defiance with the U.N. embargo.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon warned in an interview with Israeli television on Dec. 24, 2002, that Iraq already had trucked the bulk of its weapons stockpiles to Syria earlier in the autumn, before the arrival of the U.N. inspectors.

After intense U.S. pressure, Bashar Assad has handed over several key Iraqi weapons scientists and intelligence officers, including Farouk Hijazi, believed to be the key link between Iraq and al-Qaeda. But hundreds of other Iraqis are reported to have escaped through Syria.

For now, Assad appears to be wedded to his lies. When asked by Lally Weymouth of Newsweek about the escaping Iraqis, Assad insisted that once the war began no one was allowed to come. "We allowed families to come to Syria, women and children," Assad said. "But we were suspicious of some of the relatives - that they had positions in the past and were responsible for killings in Syria in the eighties."

Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight.

More: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920692/posts?page=6#6 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/921005/posts?page=39#39 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/921194/posts?page=49#49


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It's bad enough that the DemocRAT media outlets are beating the "where are the WMD" drum day and night, but to have to listen to it on Fox, too, is getting a bit old.

At first I thought he was playing dumb, but now I'm beginning to think he isn't "playing" dumb. Hahahaha

1 posted on 07/30/2003 8:03:21 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI
I can hardly watch him anymore.
2 posted on 07/30/2003 8:08:15 PM PDT by The Mayor (Vote democrat, they have all it takes to take away all you have..)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Bump!
3 posted on 07/30/2003 8:09:17 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Hey useful idiots! Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Matchett-PI
O'Reilly is obsessed with the WMD thing. The Left doesn't need help in attacking Republicans and they won't like O'Reilly any better even if he attacks the administration as they do. He's also obsessed with FOX's unilateral policy of Fair and Balanced. I hate Fair and Balanced.
4 posted on 07/30/2003 8:09:26 PM PDT by Consort
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To: The Mayor
He is the absolute worst. He is so enamored about being accepted now into the "mainstream." His radio talk show is unbeareable to hear. How are his ratings on radio?
5 posted on 07/30/2003 8:12:08 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
I don't know, don't really care. His arrogance permiates thru the airwaves.
6 posted on 07/30/2003 8:14:06 PM PDT by The Mayor (Vote democrat, they have all it takes to take away all you have..)
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To: Matchett-PI
I like Greta better than O'Reilly...... Even though I often agree with him, I just can't take his style and his one-track campaigns anymore. Remember how he beat to death the all white graduation party?
7 posted on 07/30/2003 8:16:20 PM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: Matchett-PI
the guy is a twit.
end of story
8 posted on 07/30/2003 8:23:00 PM PDT by xtorpedoman (do what you can,with what you have, where ever you are)
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To: Matchett-PI
I don't know about the only time I can stand O'Reilly is when he is asking important questions such as the one that apparently upset you. Of course, we'll never know but that bag of beans and the old buried centrifuge from 1991 a while back was something huh?

O'Reilly is a populist at best I think, he's no conservative. And I thought the administration had turned to Iran instead of Syria? Just as long as they stay away from the main terrorist supporting nation of Saudi Arabia right?

9 posted on 07/30/2003 8:23:33 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Matchett-PI
Little Chrissy Mathews wasd still parrotting the WMD mantra tonight. I guess he didn't get the message from Plantation master Clinton.
10 posted on 07/30/2003 8:23:58 PM PDT by Weimdog
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To: umgud
bookmark.
11 posted on 07/30/2003 8:24:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; lonevoice; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent FoxFan list.

12 posted on 07/30/2003 8:27:18 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: UCANSEE2
i bet we found the WMD or know where it is in syria. I dont know what the strategy is to hold on to this info. If they announce tommorrow we found 3 nuke iCBMS 400 gallons of vx ect...the Libranazis would say we planted it. hell they would say if we was in iraq for 1 hour.
13 posted on 07/30/2003 8:27:39 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek
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To: xtorpedoman
I no longer watch the man. He has become very predictable and boring.
14 posted on 07/30/2003 8:29:04 PM PDT by Bombard
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To: Matchett-PI
We barely watch O'Reilly anymore. You tune in every night and he's talking about child porn, children's nudist camps, college porn, sex and sex ed on college campuses, voyeurism... enough already!

As I've mentioned on other threads, we've been watching a lot more of Kudlow & Cramer on CNBC during that 8-9pm ET time slot lately.

16 posted on 07/30/2003 8:33:25 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: The Mayor
I seldom watch O'Reilly any more either. I believe he just "out talks" his guests when he is wrong and blusters alot more than he should. I admire his motives, but I think his success has gone to his head, and it shows.
17 posted on 07/30/2003 8:40:03 PM PDT by ZDaphne
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To: Matchett-PI
He's a demogogic, faux-populist blowhard and a self-serving phony. I used to love the guy, but O'Reilly's Howard Beal act has worn thin. It's all Me-me-me-I-I stuff. The show's become a laundry list of things that he's outraged about, so we too should be outraged about it. Every show he barks out another urgent proclamation that Bush or government, or Hollywood, or the music industry, or corporations, or society, or people who drive SUVs MUST ACT upon his demands or our whole nation faces dire conseqeunces ... blah, blah, blah.

He's big on bitching and moaning and short on solutions. He's terrific when he knows his subject, but he's a dismissive and interruptive jerk when confronted with guests who know more than him about a given subject.

18 posted on 07/30/2003 8:41:17 PM PDT by AHerald
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To: O.D.Cleaver
all it takes is a little common sense here.
Iraq had a Nuc program as far back as 91....that was hard intel.
Iraq never quit working on that program....no...repeat NOBODY denies that.
if you have a lot of time to move something that will get you in a lot of trouble, you can pretty much add 2 and 2 and get the most likely awnser as oppossed to making it a scandal of how the Admin LIED.
do you have any idea how many tunnels and underground networks are in Iraq?...i don't either...but i am sure there a quite a few.
the very statement "There's very little that's secret about our capabilities in the overhead recon business, so there would certainly be no real reason we would not publish some of the pictures of this material being moved. "
shows by inference that if a birds scheduale is know then no activity of a certain nature will be taking place.
No .
I do Not concure with the idea being thrown around that there are no WMD.
They exist.....all thats left to do there is find out where the were HIDDEN.
19 posted on 07/30/2003 8:42:36 PM PDT by xtorpedoman (do what you can,with what you have, where ever you are)
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To: Matchett-PI
Oreilly got his ass kicked by Ann Coulter:

Transcript of Coulter v. O'Reilly for FNC deprived

20 posted on 07/30/2003 8:43:12 PM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: O.D.Cleaver; MJY1288; LdSentinal; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"To move all this material would have required an enormous effort that would have easily been detected by our overhead recon satellites." ~ O.D.Cleaver

Here's an interesting exchange on Free Republic a while back:

To: MJY1288

...One of my two best friends (they're twins) works for the United States State Department. He was assigned to Kuwait for the past five months and was there during the war. He e-mailed me in early May that he his boss (also in the State Department) told him that coalition forces found and captured Iraqi WMDs even before the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003. He said that the coalition would release this information and present the evidence at a proper time. When this time would be, his boss did not have any knowledge.

Also, my friend is a Bush-hater. College did that to him, so he's not a Bush-bot, but a Democrat supporter. Heck, he works for the United States State Department.

6 posted on 05/31/2003 3:07 AM EDT by LdSentinal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920692/posts?page=6#6

To: LdSentinal

Had you posted that on another thread? If not you are the second one to say they had personal contacts with someone in the State Dept that had stated WMD's had been found!

8 posted on 05/31/2003 3:14 AM EDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920692/posts?page=8#8

To: LdSentinal

My Brother works for the State Department and is in Iraq right now. Your friend is telling a simular story to what my brother has shared with me

10 posted on 05/31/2003 3:19 AM EDT by MJY1288

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ummm, no, I did not post that story on another thread. Which thread would that be? Thanks in advance.

11 posted on 05/31/2003 3:20 AM EDT by LdSentinal

To: MJY1288

That's very interesting. I should have known -- considering my friend called Bush a coke addict -- that he would even share this information with me. If this is true, I wonder why the coalition is holding back this information.

13 posted on 05/31/2003 3:24 AM EDT by LdSentinal

To: LdSentinal

I believe the reason is because of international politics. From what I can gather, we compromised their computer systems and established quite a few contacts with Iraqi Generals. Spec. Ops were sent in early to secure some of these weapons and due to our early strikes on their command and control, there was no central command or co-ordinated communications for the Iraqi forces in the battle field.

Back in September, Our spy satellites detected convoys of trucks moving into Syria with suspected WMD's and they have evidence that dozens of trucks had their payloads buried in Syria, just over the border from Iraq.

There was mention of this in the news back then but as usual these kind of FACTS never seem to register on the radar screens of the leftist lemmings in the press.

16 posted on 05/31/2003 3:42 AM EDT by MJY1288
21 posted on 07/30/2003 8:46:48 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Hey useful idiots! Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: lowbridge
no surpises there,eh?
lol
22 posted on 07/30/2003 8:47:24 PM PDT by xtorpedoman (do what you can,with what you have, where ever you are)
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To: lowbridge
no surpises there,eh?
lol
23 posted on 07/30/2003 8:47:46 PM PDT by xtorpedoman (do what you can,with what you have, where ever you are)
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To: The Mayor
Also the Fox crawl has been taken over by a Leftist. Tonight during Brit Hume's show, it read like Terry McAullife was typing it.
24 posted on 07/30/2003 8:49:28 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: lowbridge
"Oreilly got his ass kicked by Ann Coulter"

I know. I videotaped it. Hahahaha

25 posted on 07/30/2003 8:50:07 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Hey useful idiots! Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Matchett-PI
O'Reilly started out supporting PresBush, while giving no credence to the lack of hard evidence involving Saddam's WMD. As the mainstream media and the Democrat's turned up the heat, questioning the President veracity, O'Reilly's support started to waver.

Now it would seem Saddam's WMD are a big issue to O'Reilly. O'Reilly is a "johnny come lately", indicating little difference between O'Reilly and the leftwing attack dogs.

Having watched O'Reilly for over five years now, its obvious he's developed into a first class ratings whore. If that means taking aim at PresBush, O'Reilly will do so.

However, I don't believe a majority of Fox News viewers appreciate O'Reilly's sudden desire to nail the President.

26 posted on 07/30/2003 8:51:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: AHerald; Matchett-PI
BRAVO to both of you!
27 posted on 07/30/2003 8:52:53 PM PDT by windchime
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To: O.D.Cleaver
My guess is that they know some weapons are in Syria (or the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon), but do not want to do anything about them until after the next election. I'm pretty sure it was Condi Rice who stated not too long ago that the administration would not be pursuing another war any time soon. Our forces are stretched pretty thin. Once things are stabilized in Iraq, we will be better able to influence Syria that we intend to make that famous "left hand turn". If we found "all" the WMD in Iraq what pretense would we have to invade Lebanon in order to end Syrian occupation?

There can be no doubt that our presence in Iraq is disconcerting to Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinians - especially with their realization that we no longer will allow our hands to be tied by the UN.

28 posted on 07/30/2003 8:53:13 PM PDT by wingman1
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To: Matchett-PI
Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, President Bush has a serious problem if WMD are not found in Iraq. He quite specifically told the American people that Saddam possessed WMD and posed a real threat to America.

Most Americans, myself included, believed him. Like O’Reilly, I am more than willing to give him time to locate those weapons. However, if he was wrong – more specifically, if what he told us about Saddam and WMD is not true, then he will loose my support and I suspect the support of most Americans, Democrats, Independents and Republicans.

We cannot afford to risk American lives on bad information – they are far too precious. I do not for a minute believe that he would do so maliciously, or for any personal reasons. However, he is the Commander-in-chief and must bear the responsibility for his actions.

29 posted on 07/30/2003 8:53:26 PM PDT by thtr
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To: Matchett-PI
O'Reilly is so busy trying to satisfy everybody that he is making a complete fool of himself. He is pretty much admitting his rightward tilt if he keeps bringing up stories such as this simply to satisfy the left. Furthur, the people he is trying to make happy will never be happy. Instead, they will keep crying for more. That's how Democrats are.
30 posted on 07/30/2003 9:01:25 PM PDT by rs79bm (My tagline has fallen and can't get up.)
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To: wingman1
nice sumation. i agree.
31 posted on 07/30/2003 9:01:26 PM PDT by xtorpedoman (do what you can,with what you have, where ever you are)
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To: nutmeg
I'm tired of Mr. O, the "independent". He tries so hard not to take sides, that he ends of saying a whole bunch of nothing.

I'm tired, like you, of all of the sexual content. I don't care for all the lewd commercials FOX runs in order to advertise Mr. O's shows about sex.

Brit is my favorite FOX, hands down.
32 posted on 07/30/2003 9:01:43 PM PDT by freedom4me
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To: Matchett-PI
No-Spin-Zone; Pteh!!

O'Rielly shameless kisses butt. He is an exhibitionist and a blowhard. Only a veneer of charisma seperates him from the sweaty-browed, ugly moronics of CHris 'The Iron Meathead' Matthews.
34 posted on 07/30/2003 9:07:14 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: Matchett-PI
I keep the sound down when he is on Fox. Arrogance mixed with self serving ego and half truths for the sake of provocation make for one hour of irritating noise.
35 posted on 07/30/2003 9:09:49 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: O.D.Cleaver
I understand your position.

With the attacks by other countries (word attacks) and by the media, and the left, etc. most would just come out and provide their proof.

Sometimes timing is ALL IMPORTANT.

I always saw it much smarter to give your enemies A BUNCH OF ROPE so they can make a really nice noose to hang themselves with.

Another issue is the LOCATION of the PROOF.

If it is HIDDEN, and we KNOW WHERE, It MAY be in a location that we can't just waltz into to show off the proof.

SO, patience is not only a virtue, but a POLITICAL NECESSITY.

When the time is right, so that we cannot be denied ACCESS to that HIDDEN PROOF, (Which we would be right now), you will see.

36 posted on 07/30/2003 9:11:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Kewlhand`tek
See post 36
37 posted on 07/30/2003 9:14:20 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Matchett-PI
Great letter,

I firmly believe David kay will show proof of an elaborate weapons program that consisted of dual use materials that could be brought together and assembled in a short period of time for deployment.

The precursors (Like the Castor Beans labeled as Fertilizer) have already been sucured, Chemical weapons can be assembled in a short peiod of time and require little maintainence, but the Bio Weapons are living organisms and need to be kept alive and require much more attention.

I believe Syria is where they will be found, and the only reason why Syria hasn't been paid a visit by Task Force 20 is because David Kay needs to assemble the evidence so we don't go into Syria with suspect Intel and get caught with our pants down.

I would be willing to bet that Iran will be paid a vist by the Israeli's and Syria will say hello to a massive attack by our forces by this time next year. Iran is the last big threat of a nuclear disaster in the mideast and there is no doubt that they will attack Israel the day they have a deliverable Nuclear Weapon. We have to act before a horror like we have never seen before is delivered to our troops in the region

38 posted on 07/30/2003 9:15:41 PM PDT by MJY1288 (The Enemies of America can Count on the Democrats for Aid and Comfort)
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To: UCANSEE2
Ann Coulter referred to patience today on the Linda Vester show on Fox. She said Democrats are like children in the back seat of the car asking the parents "Are we there yet?" She said the parents reply is "Not yet."
39 posted on 07/30/2003 9:16:14 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: thtr
Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, President Bush has a serious problem if WMD are not found in Iraq

I entirely agree. Something's rotten in the State of the CIA and the whole pre-Iraq-invasion intelligence assessment. My mind keeps going back to Scott Ritter who said so confidently pre-invasion that no WMD would be found. I think he's a paid Hussein shill but maybe, just maybe, he's in on something the rest of us don't suspect. I want to know what it is if it exists. Is he part of a political set-up for Bush? (I just located the Alcoa Wrap -- doing head origami).

41 posted on 07/30/2003 9:18:43 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: O.D.Cleaver
To move all this material would have required an enormous effort that would have easily been detected by our overhead recon satellites.

Except that when we sided with Iraq during its war with Iran, we revealed to Saddam our satellite technology along with its limitations. This was remarked on during the first Gulf War -- that Saddam knew the window during which he considered it safe to move his SCUD's around.

There is hope that during the intervening years we have improved or changed this window, but I've not heard anything -- and I doubt that we would. The rest of the world does not need to know every detail of our strengths, or our weaknesses.

42 posted on 07/30/2003 9:24:53 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: Bernard Marx
I don’t know if he was set-up or not. I sure hope there is no conspiracy here.

Nevertheless, President Bush is responsible. If no WMD are located and destroyed then a lot of Americans gave up their lives to free the Iraqi people from a terrible dictator – an admirable action – but not worth a single American life, in my opinion.

43 posted on 07/30/2003 9:27:57 PM PDT by thtr
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To: O.D.Cleaver
Why is it so hard to admit that Bush lied about having "proof" of these WMD's?? Politicians lie all the time.

You must be with the DU. Who let you out of the cage a week ago?

44 posted on 07/30/2003 9:32:46 PM PDT by Gracey (what's a tag line?)
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the heads up!
45 posted on 07/30/2003 9:37:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: thtr
Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, President Bush has a serious problem if WMD are not found in Iraq.

I see you've fallen for the leftwing propaganda.

The only American's who are raising hell over the lack of hard evidence involving Saddam's WMD programs, are the Bush bashers in the Democratic Party, their fellow liberals in the mainstream media and political malcontents on the fringe rightwing.

PresBush enjoys strong support from his conservative base, rank and file Republican's and fair minded independents.

He quite specifically told the American people that Saddam possessed WMD and posed a real threat to America.

PresBush wasn't the only one to warn the American people about Saddam's WMD programs. Bill Clinton also told the American people about Saddam's WMD programs and that the Iraqi leader posed a real threat to America. And both men where right. Along the way, Bush and Clinton were joined by the British government, Hans Blix, the UN, the French and the list goes on and on and on.

However, if he was wrong ...

There was no wrong doing on the part of PresBush. The President had nothing to gain by deceiving the American people. Bush made the decision to invade Iraq and remove Saddam from power. Anyone with half a brain understands, invading Iraq was a huge gamble for the Bush administration. Saddam's WMD programs existed and the proof of their existence has been well documented through the years. The fact that hard physical evidence of the whereabouts of Saddam's WMD hasn't been found, at this point, means absolutely nothing.

The fact that you agree with Bill O'Reilly and are giving the President till the end of the year to turn up this evidence about Saddam's WMD programs, means absolutely nothing too.

46 posted on 07/30/2003 9:38:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: O.D.Cleaver
"Iraq was never a "threat to world peace", they couldn't even begin to protect their own country. Contrary to what we are being told about bringing home the troops as soon as possible, Iraq will have a puppet government and U.S. troops occupying it for many, many years. Japan and Korea both have U.S. troops stationed in their countries more than 50 years after their respective wars. Will Iraq be any different?"

While it is true that Iraq was pretty much hamstrung by the no fly zones and our overwhelming presence in Kuwait, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, I would disagree that they were not a threat to world peace. We DO know that Iraq was in possession of wmd. I would not be too quick to dismiss the two trailers and the buried, rose garden centrifuge.

You are correct about not bringing the troops home anytime soon, but there will be a rotation system in place soon if not already.

It is not hard to believe that we will have troops stationed in Iraq for years to come - judging by past history. But let's also remember that Japan rose from the vanquished - with our help - to become one of our best allies. The ROK were allies to the extent that they were one of the few countries to send troops to Vietnam.

"Will Iraq be any different?" If, after a good number of years Iraq becomes politically and economically stable, it will be a great influence in the region - just like South Korea and Japan. So why should we want Iraq to be different?
48 posted on 07/30/2003 9:42:42 PM PDT by wingman1
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Ann Coulter referred to patience today on the Linda Vester show on Fox. She said Democrats are like children in the back seat of the car asking the parents "Are we there yet?" She said the parents reply is "Not yet."

She was being polite. While the Children said "are we there yet?",

The dems/media/leftists would be saying,
"Are we there yet?"
"You are on the wrong road"
"You don't know where you are going"
Get out of the seat and let me drive"
"You are lying about going to grandma's"
"You're a liar and a cheater"
"Boy am I sorry you are my parents"

49 posted on 07/30/2003 9:45:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: thtr
This was not the prime reason. We are trying to free Iraq and other countries from terrorists (or organized crime, to us uh-merikans). Saddam and his regime (family, estates, palaces,government buildings, utilities) were being protected by his vaunted Republican Guard. It was all they could do to hold Baghdad. The rest of his country had been taken over by the Al-Queda (and that is just a representative name for a host of terrorist groups, working together).

That we were able to also free his civilian population from further despotic treatment was valuable, and a political move, but not the primary reason.

It is a reason the majority(being polite here) will accept and believe and support. Therefore it was the one headlined.

50 posted on 07/30/2003 9:53:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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