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My Letter To Bill O'Reilly Tonight
The Factor-Fox News ^ | 7-30-2003 | Self

Posted on 07/30/2003 8:03:21 PM PDT by Matchett-PI

Greetings Mr. O'Reilly,

If you're not just playing dumb, and really don't know where the WMD are, may I suggest that you get Kenneth R. Timmerman (of Insight Mag.) as a guest on your show --- SOON!

This is the second night in a row I watched you parroting the Democrat mantra, demanding that Bush tell us where the WMD are.

You appear to be out of the loop. That's not good that someone in your position is so much in the dark about what's going on.

I've provided you some succinct excerpts and links to what Mr. Timmerman wrote when he accompanied Powell to Syria on May 3, 2003. This will get you up to speed. I'll look forward to seeing Mr. Timmerman on your show.

Warm regards, [Name and Town]

Sending a Serious Message to Syria

Posted May 28, 2003 By Kenneth R. Timmerman

"The May 3 meeting in the presidential palace on the hilltop overlooking Damascus was short and to the point.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, flanked by State Department Arabists, told Syrian dictator Bashar Assad that the U.S. victory in Iraq had changed the way America plans to do business in the Middle East.

The days of the cozy deals and of winking and nodding at Syrian support for terrorism were ended. He then presented Assad with a list of U.S. demands that was nothing short of breathtaking.

Powell told the Syrian president that the United States requires him to help in the search for hidden Iraqi weapons.

The United States believes the weapons were taken in convoys of tanker trucks to Syria last fall, along with key production equipment, and buried in the Syrian desert shortly before U.N. arms inspectors returned to Iraq.

Powell demanded that Syria locate and turn over Iraqi weapons scientists and top-ranking Ba'ath Party officials who had been granted sanctuary by Syria once Gulf War II began. ... [end excerpt]

Not-So-Secret Iraqi-Syrian Deals - Posted May 28, 2003

By Kenneth R. Timmerman

Middle East analysts will tell you that Syria and Iraq long have been enemies, citing their leaders' rival visions of Ba'ath Party dictatorship. And they were right until Hafez Assad died in June 2000. Almost as soon as son Bashar took power, things began to change.

In November 2000, the younger Assad agreed to reopen a 500-mile oil pipeline, which soon began hauling an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 barrels per day from the Kirkuk oil fields of Iraq to Syria's Mediterranean export terminal at Banias. For Assad and Saddam Hussein, it was a gold mine. The pipeline deal gave Saddam an estimated $1.5 billion to $2 billion per year on the black market, with hefty transit fees going to Assad in the bargain.

Just two months later, on Jan. 31, 2001, the two countries agreed to double their $500 million-per-year trade, and triple it by 2002.

Gary C. Gambill, writing in the Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, reported that Assad had dispatched his younger brother, Maher Assad, to Baghdad on a secret two-day visit shortly before the trade agreement was inked to discuss military cooperation with Qusay Hussein.

Following that visit, agreements were drafted to hide Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in Syria should U.N. inspections resume, and later, when the coalition attack became imminent, to provide sanctuary to fleeing Iraqi leaders.

According to published reports, Syria also served as a conduit for weapons and spare parts that Iraq purchased on the black market in Russia, Ukraine, the Czech Republic and France, in defiance with the U.N. embargo.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon warned in an interview with Israeli television on Dec. 24, 2002, that Iraq already had trucked the bulk of its weapons stockpiles to Syria earlier in the autumn, before the arrival of the U.N. inspectors.

After intense U.S. pressure, Bashar Assad has handed over several key Iraqi weapons scientists and intelligence officers, including Farouk Hijazi, believed to be the key link between Iraq and al-Qaeda. But hundreds of other Iraqis are reported to have escaped through Syria.

For now, Assad appears to be wedded to his lies. When asked by Lally Weymouth of Newsweek about the escaping Iraqis, Assad insisted that once the war began no one was allowed to come. "We allowed families to come to Syria, women and children," Assad said. "But we were suspicious of some of the relatives - that they had positions in the past and were responsible for killings in Syria in the eighties."

Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fnc; foxnews; iraq; oreilly; powell; syria; thefactor; timmerman; wmd
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To: thtr
Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, President Bush has a serious problem if WMD are not found in Iraq

I entirely agree. Something's rotten in the State of the CIA and the whole pre-Iraq-invasion intelligence assessment. My mind keeps going back to Scott Ritter who said so confidently pre-invasion that no WMD would be found. I think he's a paid Hussein shill but maybe, just maybe, he's in on something the rest of us don't suspect. I want to know what it is if it exists. Is he part of a political set-up for Bush? (I just located the Alcoa Wrap -- doing head origami).

41 posted on 07/30/2003 9:18:43 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: O.D.Cleaver
To move all this material would have required an enormous effort that would have easily been detected by our overhead recon satellites.

Except that when we sided with Iraq during its war with Iran, we revealed to Saddam our satellite technology along with its limitations. This was remarked on during the first Gulf War -- that Saddam knew the window during which he considered it safe to move his SCUD's around.

There is hope that during the intervening years we have improved or changed this window, but I've not heard anything -- and I doubt that we would. The rest of the world does not need to know every detail of our strengths, or our weaknesses.

42 posted on 07/30/2003 9:24:53 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: Bernard Marx
I don’t know if he was set-up or not. I sure hope there is no conspiracy here.

Nevertheless, President Bush is responsible. If no WMD are located and destroyed then a lot of Americans gave up their lives to free the Iraqi people from a terrible dictator – an admirable action – but not worth a single American life, in my opinion.

43 posted on 07/30/2003 9:27:57 PM PDT by thtr
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To: O.D.Cleaver
Why is it so hard to admit that Bush lied about having "proof" of these WMD's?? Politicians lie all the time.

You must be with the DU. Who let you out of the cage a week ago?

44 posted on 07/30/2003 9:32:46 PM PDT by Gracey (what's a tag line?)
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the heads up!
45 posted on 07/30/2003 9:37:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: thtr
Whether anyone cares to admit it or not, President Bush has a serious problem if WMD are not found in Iraq.

I see you've fallen for the leftwing propaganda.

The only American's who are raising hell over the lack of hard evidence involving Saddam's WMD programs, are the Bush bashers in the Democratic Party, their fellow liberals in the mainstream media and political malcontents on the fringe rightwing.

PresBush enjoys strong support from his conservative base, rank and file Republican's and fair minded independents.

He quite specifically told the American people that Saddam possessed WMD and posed a real threat to America.

PresBush wasn't the only one to warn the American people about Saddam's WMD programs. Bill Clinton also told the American people about Saddam's WMD programs and that the Iraqi leader posed a real threat to America. And both men where right. Along the way, Bush and Clinton were joined by the British government, Hans Blix, the UN, the French and the list goes on and on and on.

However, if he was wrong ...

There was no wrong doing on the part of PresBush. The President had nothing to gain by deceiving the American people. Bush made the decision to invade Iraq and remove Saddam from power. Anyone with half a brain understands, invading Iraq was a huge gamble for the Bush administration. Saddam's WMD programs existed and the proof of their existence has been well documented through the years. The fact that hard physical evidence of the whereabouts of Saddam's WMD hasn't been found, at this point, means absolutely nothing.

The fact that you agree with Bill O'Reilly and are giving the President till the end of the year to turn up this evidence about Saddam's WMD programs, means absolutely nothing too.

46 posted on 07/30/2003 9:38:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: O.D.Cleaver
"Iraq was never a "threat to world peace", they couldn't even begin to protect their own country. Contrary to what we are being told about bringing home the troops as soon as possible, Iraq will have a puppet government and U.S. troops occupying it for many, many years. Japan and Korea both have U.S. troops stationed in their countries more than 50 years after their respective wars. Will Iraq be any different?"

While it is true that Iraq was pretty much hamstrung by the no fly zones and our overwhelming presence in Kuwait, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, I would disagree that they were not a threat to world peace. We DO know that Iraq was in possession of wmd. I would not be too quick to dismiss the two trailers and the buried, rose garden centrifuge.

You are correct about not bringing the troops home anytime soon, but there will be a rotation system in place soon if not already.

It is not hard to believe that we will have troops stationed in Iraq for years to come - judging by past history. But let's also remember that Japan rose from the vanquished - with our help - to become one of our best allies. The ROK were allies to the extent that they were one of the few countries to send troops to Vietnam.

"Will Iraq be any different?" If, after a good number of years Iraq becomes politically and economically stable, it will be a great influence in the region - just like South Korea and Japan. So why should we want Iraq to be different?
48 posted on 07/30/2003 9:42:42 PM PDT by wingman1
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Ann Coulter referred to patience today on the Linda Vester show on Fox. She said Democrats are like children in the back seat of the car asking the parents "Are we there yet?" She said the parents reply is "Not yet."

She was being polite. While the Children said "are we there yet?",

The dems/media/leftists would be saying,
"Are we there yet?"
"You are on the wrong road"
"You don't know where you are going"
Get out of the seat and let me drive"
"You are lying about going to grandma's"
"You're a liar and a cheater"
"Boy am I sorry you are my parents"

49 posted on 07/30/2003 9:45:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: thtr
This was not the prime reason. We are trying to free Iraq and other countries from terrorists (or organized crime, to us uh-merikans). Saddam and his regime (family, estates, palaces,government buildings, utilities) were being protected by his vaunted Republican Guard. It was all they could do to hold Baghdad. The rest of his country had been taken over by the Al-Queda (and that is just a representative name for a host of terrorist groups, working together).

That we were able to also free his civilian population from further despotic treatment was valuable, and a political move, but not the primary reason.

It is a reason the majority(being polite here) will accept and believe and support. Therefore it was the one headlined.

50 posted on 07/30/2003 9:53:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: O.D.Cleaver
You have been here less than a week and speak of DU like an old pro. Du first, FR second? I think so. Welcome to FR we can stand you if you can stand the test.
51 posted on 07/30/2003 9:53:57 PM PDT by TAP ONLINE (Url is at top. Interesting article.)
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To: O.D.Cleaver
Many here on FR consider themselves staunch Republicans, but do not fully trust President Bush. Only the dead-brained blindly follow anyone. Although most of us consider that to be a requirement for instillation into the Democratic Party, there are some here on FR and in the REPUB. party that seem to have that attitude.
52 posted on 07/30/2003 9:55:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: GOPJ; Pharmboy; reformed_democrat;; nopardons; Tamsey; Miss Marple; SwatTeam; ...

This is the nascent Mainstream Media Shenanigans ping list. Please freepmail me to be added or dropped.
Please note this will likely become a high-volume list.
Also feel free to ping me if you come across a thread you would think worthy of the ping list. I can't catch them all!

53 posted on 07/30/2003 9:56:54 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Matchett-PI
Hitchens is another one who jumped ship. But Ann fried both hithens and chrissy on hard to watch tonight. They looked like 6 graders after she was done.
54 posted on 07/30/2003 9:57:57 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Gracey; O.D.Cleaver
The answer to his question is as follows:

Because, President Bush did not lie.

The statements he made are accurate and it is the MEDIA and the DEMOCRATS who are attempting to MISREPRESENT what the President said, to disgrace him.

The statement of OD's that a President may (lie) not tell the truth to the public, is certainly true.

THE FACT is that the statement in question, is being misrepresented.

If one reads the entire statement made, you will see what he said, and that HE DID NOT LIE.

All the sources that tell you the PRESIDENT LIED , are the LIARS. It is a matter of DOCUMENTED PROOF.

55 posted on 07/30/2003 10:00:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Consort
To be fair, WMD do have to be found at some point, or else the President and Tony blair will have legitimately compromised their ability to lead.
57 posted on 07/30/2003 10:01:12 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Reagan Man
“The only American's who are raising hell over the lack of hard evidence…”

You may want to open your eyes and ears. Most Conservatives are smart enough to think for themselves and do not follow lockstep to a party line.

” Bill Clinton also told the American people…”

Somehow this doesn’t offer me much comfort. Clinton is a habitual liar! Are you seriously comparing President Bush to Clinton????

” The fact that hard physical evidence of the whereabouts of Saddam's WMD hasn't been found, at this point, means absolutely nothing…”

It may mean nothing to you but you are in for a big surprise if WMD are not located. You may find it perfectly ok that American lives were lost to free the Iraqi people. Personally, I think that the lives of American soldiers are worth much more than that. The military exists to protect America and American interests – freedom of the Iraqi people (or freedom of the Liberian people) is not enough to sacrifice American lives.

58 posted on 07/30/2003 10:03:24 PM PDT by thtr
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To: Matchett-PI
Hey Bill!!

You know that nut who killed his kids, buried them, confessed, and nobody can find the bodies?


Where are the WMDs dammit!

60 posted on 07/30/2003 10:04:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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