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Posted on 08/01/2003 7:34:15 AM PDT by JudgeSmales
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To: VeniVidiVici
I take your point. This story does come on the heels of the "technical skills lagging" story, which I dismissed on the hope that the media didn't supply context...
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:13:35 AM PDT
by
Mamzelle
To: freeeee
I'm sick of people with idealistic theories that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. That don't apply for reasons that you state.
So Kevrom spouts some free market (libertarian) babble off of his cloud nine. He feels better but contributes zip.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:15:50 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
To: kevkrom
"Bush is against using the powers of the government to dictate to businesses how they can and can't operate? "Seems like he is using the power of government that arose from thousands of pages of government-to-government trade agreements. (Which lobbyists could see but our Reps could not).
Mr. President your mission 'if you care to accept it' is to grow jobs in America not foreign lands.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:15:56 AM PDT
by
ex-snook
(Your mission, Mr President, 'if you care to accept it', is to grow good jobs for Americans.)
To: JudgeSmales
" Although many of the workers become immigrants and stay on to benefit from their contribution, the process is unfair on the increasing number who return to India after having debited up to 15 per cent of their salary into the US system."
What is with these people??!! They are lucky that we allow them to steal out jobs. Indian Vampires.
To: vikingcelt
"If this is true, this is one conservative who is voting for ANYBODY BUT BUSH next election." Seconded here. This, coupled with the fact that he won't protect us from the invasion by illegal aliens, just about does it. He's destroying our country, our culture, our freedoms and our right to make a living in the land of our birth. ENOUGH!!!And people think that the drop in the poll is because of the war, BS, Protecting american jobs is protecting america, protecting the border is protecting america. Spending, spending, spending, spending on rat programs is mostly what is going on and that is not protecting america. In short as it now stands I'm setting the next election out.
To: dennisw
I'm sick of people with idealistic theories that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. That don't apply for reasons that you state. I don't understand what that means. Could you clarify?
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:18:46 AM PDT
by
freeeee
To: LayoutGuru2
As a senior manager, I left a company about four years ago over these issues.
I began consulting, communicating my own feelings about circumstances through writing books, helping other like-minded people publish their own books, using my self-taught html skills to develop web sites and have finally coupled those latter two with working on computer systems locally here in SW IDaho. Ultimately, a major earnings hit...but I am completely self-employed and we are making ends meet.
I still offer consulting services for offshore production...but find no one wants to hear my advise, which is to NOT use countries like China, to make sure that they use multiple sources in far flung geographic locations that are friendly to US interests, and to ensure that they develop ways now to keep critical capabilities and mfg. here in the USA as guard against potential geo-political upheavel.
Like I said, in most corporate board rooms, those are messages that they do not want to be hear right now.
To: freeeee
nowayjosé ...you on you own in this free market of ideas
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:22:50 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
To: George W. Bush
Bush is using federal power to restrict the rights of states to regulate business and employment practices. What about states' rights?Exactly, however be careful about bringing up that phrase. With all the Hamiltonians that have infested the 'conservative' party, it's okay for the national government to overrride the rights of the states even if what they're overriding is not covered in the Constitution under the rights of the nation's power
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:23:30 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: LayoutGuru2
Sadly, just about any service will be shipped overseas, following the manufacturing that left in the early 90's. And it won't be coming back.
This will directly lead to the destruction of the middle class in the USA, and probably a revolution down the road.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:24:54 AM PDT
by
Monty22
To: kevkrom
Let me understand this... all of you so-called "good conservatives" are upset because Bush is against using the powers of the government to dictate to businesses how they can and can't operate? How about this
FOR ONCE
SCREW THE OTHER GUY AND PASS THE SAVINGS ON TO AMERICANS! I guess that if we really try we can outsource every office job in the US and import inexpensive labor for every non office job. Then we can all huddle around a trash can fire for warmth while we discuss the virtues of free trade with third world nations. As far as what Bush said, perhaps it came out wrong or some of us are taking it out of context but the guy should try to be a bit more lucid when talking to the press. To me it came off as a slap in the face to all the qualified tech workers in the US who are WILLING TO WORK but cant find jobs. At the very least Bush's statment is promoting another BIG GOVERNMENT HANDOUT that someone (Im assuming you and I) will have to pay for. Who knows, maybe all these county colleges can begin teaching Hindi and all our displaced tech workers can spend their days arranging the wire transfer of payroll checks to India. We are CONSERVATIVES and as such do not want government interference in our lives, but as PRAGMATIC AMERICANS if there has to be government interference somewhere LET IT BE WITH THE PEOPLE OF ANOTHER NATION!
To: kevkrom
we feel it will not be appropriate for legislation to impede the market forces, However it is perfectly fine for the Indian government to place tariffs of American goods and services allowing them to impede market forces. Anything we can do to help our Indian friends. >/sarcasm<
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:27:09 AM PDT
by
thtr
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To: Mamzelle
Okay, here's the deal, it's time to organize. After Iraq the French noticed an 80% decline in american business, putting a lot of them out of business. The same needs to happen here, we need to compile a list of all companies moving their jobs offshore and then boycott their products completely, drop their products, throw them out, etc. On the same token we need to buy those companies products that hire american workers, even if they are from a foreign country. Anyone here have access to a webserver? I am mor e than willing to help organize.
To: samuel_adams_us
Actual protests in front of corporate offices would do even more. Corps don't like bad pr. It hurts business. Protest in front of the big violators (IBM). These protest will also serve to make the general public aware of what their vendors are doing. Most people would think twice about doing business with a corp that was actively involved in shipping jobs out of the country.
To: kevkrom
Let me understand this... all of you so-called "good conservatives" are upset because Bush is against using the powers of the government to dictate to businesses how they can and can't operate?
No, for upholding bad laws that allow immigrants on L1 and H1B visas that take high paying jobs away from US citizens and give them to lower paid resident aliens, and for making it easier for US companies to export the best jobs to overseas.
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:32:15 AM PDT
by
adam_az
To: StolarStorm
I need you and your ideas, this is a good one. I wonder if Free Republic would be interested in keeping the list of companies and people who want to help protest? This website is all about the citizens of the United States fighting for their freedom and the american way of life.
To: kevkrom
Are you against deporting illegals too, because that would be telling businesses who they can and can't hire???
Where does it end?
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:33:04 AM PDT
by
adam_az
To: freeeee
In Bushes speeches, he talks about the important of "creating jobs."
I guess he was really talking about creating them in India. :(
Bush, Hush!
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posted on
08/01/2003 8:34:19 AM PDT
by
adam_az
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