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Ford eyes deep U.S. blue-collar job cuts - sources; 21,000 jobs of its blue-collar work force...
Forbes/ ^ | 08-01-03

Posted on 08/01/2003 4:13:41 PM PDT by Brian S

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To: Brian S
I'm 34 and have been self employed for the last 16 years. I worked construction, retail, office, and free lance.

I am a homeowner and currently work as a stock analyst.
41 posted on 08/02/2003 12:49:24 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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So your talking about "pulling a crank" and you haven't a clue what a "crank" is...

You wouldn't last 3 hours in a production line... Union or Non-Union and from what you tell me, you better hope to hell that "line" is "union" or they'd laugh you right into the parking lot!
42 posted on 08/02/2003 12:56:49 AM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: ffusco
It's not rocket science.

No,it's not. They get paid to use their body. Visit a plant and talk to some workers and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

If an assembly worker assembles say, 60 engines per hour, and tightens 3 bolts , that's 1800 times a day (most work mandatory 10 hour days) that the worker's shoulder or hand is absorbing the torque from the gun. Of course those 3 bolts would only be a small part of the work done in one minute.

It's not a pro-union thing for me, I think autoworkers work hard for their money.

43 posted on 08/02/2003 1:02:46 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Brian S
You wouldn't last 3 hours in a production line..

Doubt it. I worked labor and construction for over ten years, roofing in July and humping sheetrock up 5 flights in NYC. My grandpa dug ditches for 30 years while my grandmother made guitar strings from cat gut.

Spare me your working class hero b.s.
44 posted on 08/02/2003 2:20:56 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
No,it's not. They get paid to use their body. Visit a plant and talk to some workers and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

You presume to know what I've done to get where I am?

Go pound sand.
45 posted on 08/02/2003 2:23:34 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
It's not a pro-union thing for me, I think autoworkers work hard for their money.

Your average day laborer works just as hard for 60 bucks a day, and he's happy to get it.

When I was a laborer it was 45, and was happy to get it. You'r average auto worker demands amost that much per hour in wages and benefits.

46 posted on 08/02/2003 2:30:51 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: ffusco
Pound sand? Whatever. You're an angry jerk and I'm thru with you. Bye.
47 posted on 08/02/2003 3:58:49 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: snopercod
Maybe they should try making vehicles that run reliably...

The four Fords and one Lincoln I've owned in my lifetime have all been exceptionally reliable and economical vehicles. Perhaps Ford should just dump all their expensive American union workers and move all their production to china to improve their bottom line

48 posted on 08/02/2003 4:38:24 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Good.
49 posted on 08/02/2003 7:38:57 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Brian S
Bump.
50 posted on 08/05/2003 4:45:17 PM PDT by FR_addict
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