DebkaFile: Kay Discovers WMD Documents, Bodies of "Human Guinea Pigs", and More on "Yellowcake-Gate"

Debka.com ^ | August 2, 2003, | DebkaFile

[secretagent]

They are pinpointing unmarked mass graves scattered around Iraq from which more than 300,000 bodies of Saddam’s victims have thus far been disinterred.

The article confuses upper end estimates with actual disinterments, I believe.

[Jay D. Dyson]

Debka serves but one purpose for me: to send its material to the Leftists who are always quoting Debka as if it were The Word of God whenever Debka posts something in accordance with their narrow world view.

Other than that, I take Debka's reports with a 5-lb bag of rock salt.

-Jay

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

This could be major:

"DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources reveal that the agents who falsified the intelligence documents were also involved in staging the mass anti-war demonstrations that swept across Europe ahead of the American invasion of Iraq and accompanied the UN Security Council war debate.

They worked with accomplices in Russian, British, French, Dutch and German intelligence and allies in Africa in an anti-coalition front."

This is exactly the kind of question I've been asking on earlier threads on this yellowcake forgery. IF (remember Debka) this is true this is gret big hugh series stuff. :-)

[ladyinred]

Debka is only slightly less reliable than Peter Jennings!

If that is true, then I don't believe one word of this!

[BARLF]

Unless......President Bush called BJC to heel.

[Ben Hecks]

It would not surprise me if the fake yellowcake documents were related to the fake Galloway documents. I would track those involved in both stories to determine if there could have been a common origin.

[Petruchio]

forgive thy ignorance but what the hell is "yellowcake"?

[FairOpinion]

"This is exactly the kind of question I've been asking on earlier threads on this yellowcake forgery. IF (remember Debka) this is true this is gret big hugh series stuff. :-)"

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I do remember. Looks like you were right. You can never underestimate how far liberals and anti-US people would go.

Here is the rest of that part from the Debka article:

"Were those 16 words really a gaffe?

DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources report a fresh piece of data obtained by the Bush administration may well tilt this controversy too. The White House initially admitted that the president’s assertion in his State of the Union that Iraq had attempted to buy uranium from Niger was based on false intelligence. The buck passed round from the CIA to Britain’s MI5, then Italian intelligence and finally, Condoleezza’s deputy at the National Security Council, Stephen Hadley.

Our Washington sources now reveal that, according to the new data reaching the White House from “very friendly” intelligence services operating in Africa, the US president got it right the first time. Saddam’s agents had indeed gone on a uranium purchasing mission to a number of African countries on the dates mentioned.

What went wrong was that the documentary evidence - handed to Bush by Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi in confidence, as DEBKA-Net-Weekly now reveals, had been doctored by anti-American, anti-war factions in Italian intelligence in such a way that it would be discovered and appear to be fabricated. They plotted to bring the three war leaders into disrepute by manipulating them into committing an untruth while also souring the warm relations between the Italian prime minister and the White House.

The identities of the Italian intelligence plotters were at the center of the two days of private talks held by Bush and Berlusconi at the presidential ranch in Crawford, Texas July 20 and 21. The Italian prime minister brought with him the results of a private investigation. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources reveal that the agents who falsified the intelligence documents were also involved in staging the mass anti-war demonstrations that swept across Europe ahead of the American invasion of Iraq and accompanied the UN Security Council war debate.

They worked with accomplices in Russian, British, French, Dutch and German intelligence and allies in Africa in an anti-coalition front. "

[furball4paws]

Do you all know that Niger was a French colony? I am a suspicious sort.

[FairOpinion]

But I bet the bigger whine will be that "Iraq never used the chem/bio weapons on our troops."

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Actually, they have already said that, in a tone, that it sounded as if they were regretting it. I forgot, which pathetic rat actually said it, but I remember seeing and hearing it from at least one of them on TV.

[habs4ever]

How's your pipeline to Doug Thompson these days? Has he tracked down his "source" yet? ;-)

[FairOpinion]

They may not have found 300,000 or actually counted that many, but here is what Blair said:

"More than 100 mass graves had been discovered in Iraq, and there were 300,000 missing people, while "probably the numbers of people Saddam killed, all of them Muslims, run into millions," Blair said."

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_324851,001300180038.htm

[mhking]

It's DEBKA-Man!

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[Miss Marple]

Did not the fake Galloway documents go to the Christian Science Monitor, while the real documents were discovered by a reporter for The Telegraph? This seems to be a pattern emerging, doesn't it?

Leak fake documents to a rival media outlet in order to muck up the trail. Send out minions who are embedded in the governments to accuse those in charge of fraud. Opposition parties then spin and raise charges in Congress or the Parliament.

This also echoes something of the Kelly scandal in Britain.

[habs4ever]

A Washington Times op-ed from Herb Romerstein, two weeks back, strongly suggests that Iraq Intelligence was behind the forgeries.They were revealed on March 8th, and they bear the hallmarks of a KGB sting.The KGB taught the Iraqis the business of espionage.

[Diogenesis]

The only time Jennings is accurate is when he and ABC expose US military positions during battle as they did this year.

[FairOpinion]

Yellow cake = low-enriched uranium -- the first step towards high enriched uranium. That was what Saddam was seeking in Niger and elsewhere ( and he actually had tons of it already, which the UN left in Iraq in their infinite wisdom, figuring that putting a seal on the container will keep Saddam from using it.

[FairOpinion]

I initially also thought that the 300,000 sounds like a lot, but some articles mentioned 100 graves, and here is one which talks about 3,000 in one grave, so the 300,000 is quite a possibility.

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A mass grave containing up to 3,000 bodies of victims of Saddam Hussein's repression has been found south of Baghdad, human rights investigators said yesterday.


An Iraqi woman walks past human remains at the mass grave
The site at Mahawil is the biggest found so far and in one pit alone yesterday a mechanical digger retrieved 200 to 300 bodies in an hour.

The corpses were victims of Saddam's brutal suppression of the uprising that followed the 1991 gulf war and those that could be identified by personal documents were from around the southern Shia city of Basra.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/14/wirq14.xml

[FairOpinion]

"More mass graves have been found in two new locations in Iraq, together containing at least 4,000 bodies and perhaps as many as 15,000, human rights groups and a British news report said today."


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/14/1052591830939.html

[habs4ever]

Chew on this bit of opinion regarding the source of the forgeries:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20030720-103231-2818r.htm