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Bush Jackson Meeting Angers GOP Blacks
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| August 3, 2003
| Kenneth R. Timmerman
Posted on 08/03/2003 6:09:16 AM PDT by joesnuffy
Bush-Jackson meeting angers GOP blacks Private consultation 'amounts to aiding and abetting a hustler'
Posted: August 3, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern
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By Kenneth R. Timmerman © 2003 News World Communications Inc.
Black Republicans are roiling with anger and incomprehension after a meeting between George W. Bush and Rev. Jesse Jackson that followed the president's address to the National Urban League in Pittsburgh.
"We are outraged that the people around the president would do such a thing," said Niger Innis, spokesman for the Congress on Racial Equality, or CORE. "This amounts to aiding and abetting a hustler who has been exposed and is a total repudiation of people like my father, Roy Innis, who have been fighting for a positive cause for years."
The 15-minute closed-door meeting Monday also was attended by Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, a Maryland Democrat and the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, and former Clinton administration Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater.
Sources familiar with the meeting say it was set up by White House political-strategy director Karl Rove, with no consultation with black conservatives or the Republican National Committee.
"Such meetings wouldn't have been coordinated with the RNC," an RNC official said. "But it was well-known that the meeting with Jackson was going to take place."
RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie was standing behind the president when he was whisked away by the Secret Service for the private meeting with Jackson, a knowledgeable source tells Insight. "[Gillespie] was stunned when he learned what was going on."
Other sources dispute this account and say the White House was blindsided by Cummings, who requested a private audience to talk to the president about Liberia. "Out of respect for Cummings as the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Bush agreed to meet with him. It was someone else who suggested to Cummings that he bring Jackson," one source told Insight.
Rove also is said to have personally approved sending Federal Communications Commission Chairman Michael Powell to address a Jackson conference on Wall Street on Jan. 16. Republican Party insiders tell Insight that Rove initially had wanted to send Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Mel Martinez as well, but nixed the idea after howls of protest from black Republicans.
No Democrat lashed out more viciously at Bush during the 2000 presidential campaign than Jackson. He frequently blamed Bush for the "lynching" of James Byrd Jr., a black man from Jasper, Texas, who was chained behind a car and dragged to his death in a racially motivated incident.
And during the Florida recount, Jackson made false claims that Florida Gov. Jeb Bush had ordered the state police to intimidate black voters.
As the Supreme Court was hearing final oral arguments in Bush v. Gore on Dec. 12, 2000, Jackson told reporters, "We will take to the streets right now. We will delegitimize Bush, discredit him, do whatever it takes, but never accept him."
At one point, Jackson warned that a Bush victory would lead to violence in the streets.
The president has yet to have a one-on-one meeting with CORE National Chairman Roy Innis or with any other black conservative leaders.
"This should have happened a long time ago," Niger Innis tells Insight. "This meeting with Jackson undermines the cause of black Republicans and black conservatives. It undermines our efforts to bring more blacks into the party to increase the abysmal 9 percent vote the president got from the black community in 2000."
Innis called on the White House to set up "a series of private meetings with Roy Innis and other conservative black leaders to counter the damage done" from the meeting with Jackson.
"If anything, Jesse Jackson, once certified by the president, will go out and stab the president in the back," Innis said. "He will go out and take black voters away from Bush next year."
A top black Republican Party insider, who asked not to be named, believes Bush addressed the Urban League on the mistaken belief that it would help him win support from black voters in next year's election.
"The president has about as much chance of getting votes from the Urban League as he does from convicted felons at Folsom Prison," he said.
The African Methodist Episcopal Church plans to hold a major event in Dallas next week that is expected to draw an estimated 10,000 women involved in missionary work.
"Here's a group that would be sympathetic to the president, especially to his faith-based initiatives," this insider said. "They asked the president to give a speech, but haven't heard one word back."
After Bush's speech to the Urban League, Democratic presidential contender Harold Dean addressed the group and mocked the president's outreach effort.
"The president played the race card and he had the nerve to come before the National Urban League and ask for your help and your support," Dean was quoted as saying by the Washington Times.
Instead of the polite applause reserved for the president, Dean's remarks were greeted with a standing ovation.
Alex St. James of the African-American Legislative Council in Washington said he was "utterly shocked" to hear of the Bush-Jackson meeting.
"This is a slap in the face of black Republicans," he said. "Jackson has called the president all kinds of names. You don't sit down with your enemy if he doesn't first make amends. Blacks will see this as the president trying to pander to the black vote."
But not all black conservative leaders are angry. Kevin Martin, who as head of Project 21 in Washington had helped convince NASCAR to stop its financial support of Jackson and his groups, thought Bush had gotten the better of Jackson.
"If he'd refused to meet Jackson, then all the television networks would have put Jesse on TV to talk about the snub," Martin said. "As it was, Bush came away from this meeting the bigger man. He played Jackson like the fiddle that he was. It was a good political move."
Conservatives, he argued, need to take a longer view of meetings such as this.
"What this president has done is to sideline the far-left NAACP, which is still suffering from the reign of terror of Julian Bond, in favor of the more moderate National Urban League and others," Martin said. "Fifteen minutes of the president's time with Jackson in the context of national politics is nothing. If you want to get this president re-elected, you take away the temper-tantrum toys from the likes of Jesse Jackson."
During the meeting, Jackson said he encouraged Bush to intervene in the civil war in Liberia, according to the Washington Times. The White House did not allow Jackson or Cummings to appear with the president for a photo opportunity.
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posted on
08/03/2003 6:09:17 AM PDT
by
joesnuffy
To: joesnuffy
After Bush's speech to the Urban League, Democratic presidential contender Harold Dean addressed the group and mocked the president's outreach effort. "The president played the race card and he had the nerve to come before the National Urban League and ask for your help and your support," Dean was quoted as saying by the Washington Times.
Little do people know that the younger, stout, more left leaning liberal "Harold" Dean has placed himself in the field of democratic contenders along side his brother "Howard" for 2004 Presidental election.
Oh, yes, Bush plays the race card better than any Dem we know!! LOL!!
To: joesnuffy
Should have had him arrested for extortion.
To: sirchtruth
"The president played the race card and he had the nerve to come before the National Urban League and ask for your help and your support," Dean was quoted as saying by the Washington Times."
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/6307790.htm
"Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who was governor of a state where more than nine of every 10 residents are white, drew murmurs and scattered applause when he promised to make a case for race relations not just to the(NAACP) convention but to white people across the country. ''It takes a white leader to stand up and explain to my people about why racism is wrong,'' Dean said."
http://www.charleston.net/stories/072003/wor_20dean.shtml
On the stump, Dean has made a point of expressing his desire to appeal to people across the political spectrum. "I want to go to the South, and I'm going to say to white guys that drive pick-up trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back of their car, 'We want your vote, too, because your kids don't have health insurance either,' " he said at the California State Democratic Convention.
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posted on
08/03/2003 6:44:44 AM PDT
by
Pikamax
To: joesnuffy
With Bush's inability to "win" African-American votes in 2000 ( Al Gorleone pulled 90% of this special interest group), Bush has decided to hire himself a race pimp to purchase a bigger piece of the action in 2004.
This does not surprise me in the least. Since European American's do not block vote ( did 90% of European-Americans block vote for Bush?) Bush is going to ensure that he puts a hold on those that do.
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:08:46 AM PDT
by
HadEnough
To: joesnuffy
Bush Jackson Meeting Angers GOP Blacks It angeres this GOP white too! Bush has no business meeting with that race pimp. A total loss of stature on GW's part to stoop that low.
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:13:08 AM PDT
by
fightu4it
(conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
To: joesnuffy
Meeting with Jackson just confers more legitimacy on this racial extortionist. Sad to watch Bush pander in this way.
To: PBRSTREETGANG
"Other sources dispute this account and say the White House was blindsided by Cummings, who requested a private audience to talk to the president about Liberia. "Out of respect for Cummings as the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Bush agreed to meet with him. It was someone else who suggested to Cummings that he bring Jackson," one source told Insight."
NEVER EVER TRUST A DEMONRAT!
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:33:47 AM PDT
by
SwinneySwitch
(Freedom isn't Free - Support the Troops!!)
To: joesnuffy
President Bush say what to jesse?
We don't know. I like to think he told him to get outa Dodge or some such cowboy slang.
To: fightu4it
Meeting with Jackson...it boggels one's mind.
If Karl Rove doesn't stop giving Dubya these silly pills, a whole lot of folks will punt or stay home in '04.
Big time hint for GWB: Tell Rove to wake up and smell the mood of the base and get back to speaking your mind...i.e., say what you mean, mean what you say. Most important, start questioning Rove's questionable advice.
Mustang sends from "Malpaso News"
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:36:48 AM PDT
by
Mustang
(Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
To: Mustang
"Most important, start questioning Rove's questionable advice."
I cannot understand why George Bush doesn't realize how much his conservative base is upset by some of Mr. Rove's "advice." I know they think that we have no where else to go, but have they even considered the fact that to a great many of us "no where else to go" can also mean the voting booth in 2004.
To: joesnuffy
That does it Bush can GTH!
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posted on
08/03/2003 8:02:16 AM PDT
by
sandydipper
(Never quit - never surrender!)
To: Pikamax
"I want to go to the South, and I'm going to say to white guys that drive pick-up trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back of their car, 'We want your vote, too, because your kids don't have health insurance either,' "
. . .detect more than a little prejudice in 'profiling' here. Who the h-ll do they think they are talking to?
These Dems cannot help themselves as they trip over their own arrogance and ignorance.
They can never 'get it'. . .because they simply are what they speak.
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posted on
08/03/2003 8:09:17 AM PDT
by
cricket
Comment #14 Removed by Moderator
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posted on
08/03/2003 11:43:22 AM PDT
by
CounterCounterCulture
(IRRESPONSIBILITY: No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood)
To: joesnuffy
Who the hell does Jackson represent except his own deep pockets?
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posted on
08/03/2003 11:50:50 AM PDT
by
lowbridge
(You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
To: joesnuffy
Wow, a 15-minute meeting, and Jackson wasn't even alone. Some people are looking for an excuse to get their panties in a wad.
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posted on
08/03/2003 11:54:20 AM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: joesnuffy
I like Niger Innis and loved when he daddy yoked Fat Al Sharpton 20 years ago on Morton Downey's "show".
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posted on
08/03/2003 11:55:00 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
To: joesnuffy
I wonder how much money Jesse left with?
19
posted on
08/03/2003 12:00:42 PM PDT
by
husky ed
(FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
To: Dog Gone
15 minutes is nothing. I wouldn't see the problem if he met with Jackson for several hours.
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:02:06 PM PDT
by
FITZ
To: Mustang
The "top black Republican insider" quoted in the article sounds like a very suitable replacement for Rove and his silly pills...
A top black Republican Party insider, who asked not to be named, believes Bush addressed the Urban League on the mistaken belief that it would help him win support from black voters in next year's election.
"The president has about as much chance of getting votes from the Urban League as he does from convicted felons at Folsom Prison," he said.
The African Methodist Episcopal Church plans to hold a major event in Dallas next week that is expected to draw an estimated 10,000 women involved in missionary work.
"Here's a group that would be sympathetic to the president, especially to his faith-based initiatives," this insider said. "They asked the president to give a speech, but haven't heard one word back."
To: joesnuffy
BTTT
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:16:46 PM PDT
by
Unicorn
To: joesnuffy
BTTT
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:16:49 PM PDT
by
Unicorn
To: lonevoice
The "top black Republican insider" quoted in the article sounds like a very suitable replacement for Rove and his silly pills...
Amen to that. Jackson will stab him in the back just as fast as you can say N-double-A-C-P
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:17:50 PM PDT
by
CounterCounterCulture
(IRRESPONSIBILITY: No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood)
To: joesnuffy
Calling all Bush-bots! Calling all Bush-bots!
We need you to tell us how this move (doubtless engineered by the BRRRILLIANT Karl Rove) shows shrewd strategic political maneuvering.
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:18:43 PM PDT
by
BenR2
((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
To: ImpotentRage
I cannot understand why George Bush doesn't realize how much his conservative base is upset by some of Mr. Rove's "advice." I know they think that we have no where else to go, but have they even considered the fact that to a great many of us "no where else to go" can also mean the voting booth in 2004.
////
Amen. Bush "learned" all the wrong lessons from 2000. Rather than properly regarding Rove as the yo-yo who VERY NEARLY snatched defeat from the jaws of victory for him, Bush has chosen to view Rove as some kind of political Machiavelli whose advise is, apparently, leading Bush not only to stick a knive in the backs of those who pulled his chestnuts out of the fire in 2000, but also to begin turning it.
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:23:24 PM PDT
by
BenR2
((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
To: SwinneySwitch
"Other sources dispute this account and say the White House was blindsided by Cummings, who requested a private audience to talk to the president about Liberia. "Out of respect for Cummings as the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Bush agreed to meet with him. It was someone else who suggested to Cummings that he bring Jackson," one source told Insight." You're right. Dims know they can get a lot of people to withdraw their support because they don't read far enough into the article.
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:30:28 PM PDT
by
arasina
(click here ---no, wait a minute---DON'T!)
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
To: joesnuffy
The President is free to talk to anyone he pleases, idiots included!
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:42:00 PM PDT
by
reg45
To: HadEnough
With Bush's inability to "win" African-American votes in 2000 ( Al Gorleone pulled 90% of this special interest group)...Special interest group. Mmmmkay...
...( did 90% of European-Americans block vote for Bush?)...
And just who goes around referring to themselves as "European-Americans?" The only one here who seems to be consumed with race-thinking is you.
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:45:48 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
To: PBRSTREETGANG
Sad to watch Bush pander in this way.Where are you coming up with pandering?
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posted on
08/03/2003 12:52:42 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
To: rdb3
Not only does Bush pander via a fifteen minute meeting, credible sources say he pulls his zipper down when he pees as well. Need to impeach now!! </ sarcasm >
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posted on
08/03/2003 1:03:01 PM PDT
by
going hot
(Happiness is a momma deuce)
To: joesnuffy
Is there no end to Bush's perfidy?
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posted on
08/03/2003 1:08:29 PM PDT
by
Courier
(Bring joy to Jedda, re-elect Bush)
To: joesnuffy
Perhaps the president gave Jesse an overdue tongue-lashing or even made suggestions that Jesse might want to consider the possibility of being prosecuted for running his protection racket.
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posted on
08/03/2003 1:17:24 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Pikamax; stainlessbanner; billbears; wardaddy
"I want to go to the South, and I'm going to say to white guys that drive pick-up trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back of their car, 'We want your vote, too, because your kids don't have health insurance either,' " he said at the California State Democratic Convention." Well, bless his heart. Isn't that special? How thoughtful of him to condescend to speak to us southerners with Confederate flags on our vehicles. I hope this sissy boy comes prepared for a well deserved attitude adjustment.
.
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posted on
08/03/2003 1:28:06 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Budge
Ping!
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posted on
08/03/2003 2:33:54 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sweetliberty
I'm one who has insurance. 275/month Blue Cross for family of 4.
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posted on
08/03/2003 3:02:44 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
To: wardaddy
Still, doesn't it strike you as an incredibly pompous statement for Dean to make?
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posted on
08/03/2003 3:08:20 PM PDT
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sweetliberty
No hardcore Yankee like Dean can make inroads in the South with white voters. His demeanor will turn off all but union lackeys....and urban sophisticate arsewipes like many of my neighbors sadly.
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posted on
08/03/2003 3:11:14 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
To: Pikamax
"I want to go to the South, and I'm going to say to white guys that drive pick-up trucks with Confederate flag decals on the back of their car, 'We want your vote, too, because your kids don't have health insurance either,' " Fishing for democrat votes. The hand-out crowd. If he becomes a national contender I suspect he will need to change the bait.
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posted on
08/03/2003 3:37:57 PM PDT
by
Do Be
To: sweetliberty
Dean is an Ass of the First Order!
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:22:01 PM PDT
by
Budge
(God Bless FReepers!)
To: larryjohnson
President Bush say what to jesse? We don't know. I like to think he told him to get outa Dodge or some such cowboy slang.Remember how fast Jesse hightailed it out of Tallahassee last Nov. '00?
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:24:45 PM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: joesnuffy
Other sources dispute this account and say the White House was blindsided by Cummings, who requested a private audience to talk to the president about Liberia. "Out of respect for Cummings as the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, Bush agreed to meet with him. It was someone else who suggested to Cummings that he bring Jackson," one source told Insight.Boy some people just don't read. From the sound of this, the meeting was originally not including jackson, cummings snuck him in, and so duhhhhhhhhh maybe that is why it ended up being only 15min and not 30m or an hour and no photo-op. We don't even know what was said and what Bush said. Why do so many people assume so much when they know nothing.
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posted on
08/03/2003 7:39:45 PM PDT
by
GUIDO
To: rdb3
Where are you coming up with pandering?.From the article (and I concur):
"This is a slap in the face of black Republicans," he said. "Jackson has called the president all kinds of names. You don't sit down with your enemy if he doesn't first make amends. Blacks will see this as the president trying to pander to the black vote."
In my view, Jackson is a criminal and an extortionist. I see no other reason to meet with him other than to pander to a group that he purports to represent.
To: PBRSTREETGANG
So you got your opinion through the opinion of another person, even though no one knows exactly what was said. Got it.
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posted on
08/04/2003 3:48:27 AM PDT
by
rdb3
(Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
To: rdb3
Nope, actually you didn't get it at all.
Thanks for attempting to play, though.
To: ImpotentRage
"no where else to go" can also mean the voting booth in 2004.
Excellent point.I could never vote "Rat", but a true conservative/libertarian challenger just may give me pause if GWB keeps the pander-box open.
Mustang sends from "Malpaso News"
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posted on
08/04/2003 6:59:27 AM PDT
by
Mustang
(Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
To: PBRSTREETGANG
Nope, actually you didn't get it at all.You are in error. I most certainly got it. You formed your opinion based on the opinion of another person. You have no facts to support your case. In fact, it appears that you cherry-picked what you wanted from the article because it stated how Jackson got to be there in the first place.
Thanks for attempting to play, though.
Play? Neither Parker Brothers nor Milton Bradley is stamped across my forehead, so I don't know what type of play[ing] you are talking about.
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:10:27 AM PDT
by
rdb3
(Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
To: Mustang
...if GWB keeps the pander-box open.According to the article, where is the pandering?
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posted on
08/04/2003 7:11:40 AM PDT
by
rdb3
(Nerve-racking since 0413hrs on XII-XXII-MCMLXXI)
To: rdb3
I most certainly got it. You formed your opinion based on the opinion of another person.Nope. Wrong again. Hence, why I characterized your pompous responses as "playing".
Have yourself a nice day.
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