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The Apocalypse Is At Hand (...severe vanity)
AnimeNewsNetwork ^ | Monday, August 4th, 2003 | Me, the Depressed; resigned to the bitter fate of humanity....

Posted on 08/03/2003 9:38:35 PM PDT by section9

Well, folks, it looks as if the End is At Hand,

or a Hillary Presidency at the very least.

Yes, It has finally come to pass.

Those of use who are witness to the agony of live action costume contests at anime conventions feared that this might happen.

Live action Sailor Moon.

Ritual suicide is in order. And to think, I was foolish enough to believe that Western Civilization had a chance.....


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KEYWORDS: anime; apocalypsenow; movies; notlater; sailormoon; sailorscouts; sailorsenshi; yatta
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Oh well, at least there's Batboy...

Remember, like Horatius at the Bridge, or Ronald McDonald at the Gate, Batboy will defend us!

Anybody have any Geofront property?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

1 posted on 08/03/2003 9:38:35 PM PDT by section9
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To: section9
Gundam SEED is worse.

At least this is trying to be interesting...
2 posted on 08/03/2003 9:46:45 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: section9
I'm trying to get it.
3 posted on 08/03/2003 9:47:18 PM PDT by Gumption
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To: Gumption

I mean, this stuff is scary when they do live action. Live action anime when done by an underbudgeted Japanese studio is worse than any Godzilla film, even Godzilla vs. Rodan.

Which is pretty bad. BTW, they're spending a hundred million dollars to do a Live Action Evangelion, too.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

4 posted on 08/03/2003 9:51:26 PM PDT by section9 (Major Kusanagi is back from vacation, ready to kick the liberal ass....)
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To: section9; RedBloodedAmerican
Remember, these are the same people that gave the world Yatta
5 posted on 08/03/2003 9:53:24 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Terpfen

I'm not sure how to take the entire Gundam franchise. The homoerotic subtext of Gundam Wing sort of scared me off.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

6 posted on 08/03/2003 9:54:05 PM PDT by section9 (Major Kusanagi is back from vacation, ready to kick the liberal ass....)
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To: section9
Will they be doing live action anime porn? That's sure to be the next big craze....
7 posted on 08/03/2003 9:55:34 PM PDT by freebilly (I know, let's let Jesus be handed over to the Romans by right wing white male conservative bigots)
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To: section9
Could be worse.

Could be DragonBall Z.

-Jay
8 posted on 08/03/2003 9:56:09 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (But I can't get nothin' that can be bought, so I'll just live with what I got... Lord, forgive me.)
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To: hole_n_one

You should be shot for that. I've seen Yatta once, on VHS. Scary.

However, you'll now have to be punished. Yes, by a picture of everyone's favorite costume player from this year's Anime Expo in L.A., the "individual" who dressed as Faye Valentine. I hope you're happy.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

9 posted on 08/03/2003 10:03:36 PM PDT by section9 (Major Kusanagi is back from vacation, ready to kick the liberal ass....)
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To: section9
Ugh I remember at Anime Expo last year there was someone like that... anime has become a joke here
10 posted on 08/03/2003 10:11:55 PM PDT by hasegawasama
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To: freebilly
Already been done, already popular.
11 posted on 08/03/2003 10:12:27 PM PDT by hasegawasama
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To: section9

Noooooooo!

The only thing that comes even >close< to this - while admittedly not anime - is the long rumoured remake of "The Prisoner".

In fact I just called my son and his buddies who are sitting by a campfire at my house tonight to tell them about the "Sailor Moon" thing. There were loud screams, a few sobs and then the question, "Well, are the girls hot"?

Kidz....sigh.

prisoner6

12 posted on 08/03/2003 10:22:52 PM PDT by prisoner6 ( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: section9
The only homoerotic parts of Wing come from the dime-a-dozen yaoi fanfics.

Gundam as a whole is pretty good when done right, but terrible when done from a mold. SEED's only saving grace is that its characters are strong: the story, designs, and even music are pretty bad. You want to see some good Gundam series, take a look at Sentinel, V, Turn A, Zeta, and G.
13 posted on 08/03/2003 10:36:25 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: section9
do you remember "Gunhed"?
yeech!
14 posted on 08/03/2003 10:42:32 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
Don't forget Guyver!
15 posted on 08/03/2003 10:47:14 PM PDT by coydog (Out with Chretien!)
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To: Terpfen
Gundam SEED is worse

what you talkin about gundam seed rules!! i love that series (im up to episode 10)

hey i heard some guy dressed as vash the stampede too lol

16 posted on 08/03/2003 10:51:22 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: section9
this is the most disturbing pic I have ever seen....
17 posted on 08/03/2003 10:52:17 PM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: section9
chris,check out SEED its not like that at all...gundam wing ruled,but all the yaoi stuff that came afterward sucked
18 posted on 08/03/2003 10:52:52 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: deathscythex
Oh, good, I'm not the only one who thinks Seed rocks. Granted, I'm only twenty episodes in so there's still a chance for it to get messed up, but it's a worthy relaunch of the Mobile Suit Gundam concept (which was originally inspired by the suits in Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers, btw).
19 posted on 08/03/2003 10:54:50 PM PDT by Buggman (Jesus Saves--the rest of you take full damage.)
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To: Terpfen
designs, and even music are pretty bad. You want to see some good Gundam series, take a look at Sentinel, V, Turn A, Zeta, and G.

G gundam i havent seen yet but by the looks of it its ok...(music sucked though) turn a gundam looks kinda boring check out Gundam X that series is cool and music is awesome

btw im gonna defend seed cause if ive found somthing better than gundam W then thats impressive i used to be like the biggest Wing fan

20 posted on 08/03/2003 10:55:17 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: Buggman
im only 10 in...maybe we should swap episodes?
21 posted on 08/03/2003 10:56:47 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: coydog
ssSPEeeeeeeeew!
22 posted on 08/03/2003 11:09:35 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: Buggman; deathscythex
Gundam, in all variants, is junk.
Gundam is one small step up from DBZ, which in turn is only the smallest bit better than Pokemon.
In most variants, the animation in Gundam is awful, in the oldest it is no better than Speed Racer. The story arcs lack the epic sweep and thematic maturity of Yamato or Macross. The mecha designs are crap. The characters are dull. The episode storylines are lame, lacking the biting wit of Cowboy Bebop or many other series. The overall continuum is moronic.
Why on Earth anyone wastes time with Gundam is beyond me.
Well, that's my $.02 worth, anyway.
*hurriedly donning asbestos landmate*
23 posted on 08/03/2003 11:22:25 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: section9
Will they be jumping on trampolines in those costumes?

(Just wondering)

Zicke, zacke, zicke, zacke, hoi, hoi, hoi !!

24 posted on 08/03/2003 11:22:54 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: King Prout
....

baka mei!!!

::grabs beam cannon::: take that !!!!!!! ::turns king to vapor::: ^_^

hahahahahah lol

well i guess im supposed to flame you...so here it goes

well we all know your a big sailor moon fan..we all know you have yaoi dreams about tuxedo mask and even more yaoi dreams about speed racer...

and yes,im joking

25 posted on 08/03/2003 11:26:07 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: hole_n_one
"Remember, these are the same people that gave the world Yatta "

what the h#^% was that?
juheezus
26 posted on 08/03/2003 11:40:35 PM PDT by xtorpedoman (do what you can,with what you have, where ever you are)
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To: deathscythex
Never seen an episode of Sailor Moon.
I get the picture of it, though - from the various Project A-Ko movies.

Speed Racer? You *really* wanna go there?
OK.
Speed Racer is actually Michael Jackson.
Think about it.
27 posted on 08/03/2003 11:41:02 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
ok that was wrong! lol
28 posted on 08/03/2003 11:47:07 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: deathscythex
anime rules BUMP!
29 posted on 08/03/2003 11:48:59 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: deathscythex
Of course, that means that Racer X must be Tito.
30 posted on 08/03/2003 11:49:48 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
well IMHO racer X was cooler,so i guess we cant pick on him lol
31 posted on 08/03/2003 11:54:29 PM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: deathscythex
Of course RacerX was cooler.
D'you think HE'd ride around with Trixie and never (censored to avoid AM ZOT)???
32 posted on 08/03/2003 11:56:00 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
Speed Racer is actually Michael Jackson.
Think about it.

Ahhh... at last chim-chim makes sense... but... Oh No, Spritle's in danger!

33 posted on 08/04/2003 12:13:24 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: jennyp
...and Trixie... is NOT.
Yep.
34 posted on 08/04/2003 12:17:11 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: King Prout
lol!!! your right

anyways im off FR for the night ill see all the anime buffs tomorrow

35 posted on 08/04/2003 12:19:28 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: jennyp
Ahhh... at last chim-chim makes sense... but... Oh No, Spritle's in danger!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

36 posted on 08/04/2003 12:20:12 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Go lions! Go Pistons. Go U of M Go Tige...errr GO REDWINGS!!!!)
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To: deathscythex
good night
37 posted on 08/04/2003 12:21:38 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: section9
Well, at least the live-action Sailor Sisters (if I remember correctly...) are kinda cute. At least in "conventional" clothing (no, that is not a pun).
38 posted on 08/04/2003 12:26:19 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: section9
Oh, well. Just as in the anime, the live-action Sailor Mars and Sailor Venus are the cute ones.

On the other hand, there's some really great anime out at the moment. My four current favorites are:

Uchuu no Stellvia (“Stellvia of Space”) - a Heinleinesque story of young space cadets growing up while doing their part to protect Earth from cosmic disaster. Appealing characters and more-or-less realistic SF story elements make this one a winner.

Gadguard - Not your typical "boy and his robot" show! Gadguard is a most unusual mix, featuring appealing characters, unusual mechanical design, fascinating background work, and the best jazz soundtrack since Bebop. The story pits the Have-Nots of a decadent future Earth against the Haves in a battle for survival. At stake is the remarkable technology known as GAD -- and the lives of the young people who come to control it.

Ashita no Nadja (“Tomorrow's Nadja”) - Like a magical girl show, only with no magic. Nadja Applefield is a thirteen-year-old English orphan in late Victorian times who comes into an inheritance from the missing mother she never knew. Not long after receiving this legacy, the orphanage she lives in is burned to the ground by mysterious men. After a botched attempt at stealing the jeweled brooch she wears, Nadja is forced to flee. Lost and on her own foor the first time, she narrowly escapes a life of sweatshop labor when her luck suddenly changes -- and Nadja joins a troupe of traveling performers as a dancer. The quest to find her missing mother is on -- but will she escape her wicked pusuers? And what is the secret of the brooch? Luscious Miyazaki-like backgrounds, strong animation, and an optimistic storyline make this show fun for lads and lasses of any age.

Saishu Heiki Kanojoh aka SaiKano (“She, The Ultimate Weapon”) - Elegaic. Moving. The kind of anime J.G. Ballard would have creatted if he'd been a Japanese animation director instead of a writer. SaiKano is a love story, the ”Last Love Song on This Little Planet”. In the near future, small-town Japanse high-schoolers Chise and Shuuji fall in love amid a war with an Unamed English-Speaking Country -- a war depicted with frankness and brutality from the point of view of the innocent civilian. As the thunder of the bombs grows ever closer, the forces of war begin to destroy the bond that holds Chise to her first love. Lives are destroyed, secrets are revealed, and when Shuuji learns the frightening truth about his girlfriend, it proves to be more horrifying than anyone could have imagined. As the storyline draws nearer its inexorable end, you'll realize why the translators chose She, The Ultimate Weapon as their official English-language title -- because, after all, in Japanese the word for “death” is pronounced “shi”. SaiKano isn't a story about war; it's a story about love, loss, and the heartache of growing up.

I'd also like to recommend a not-so-new anime to all of you: Kareshi to Kanojoh no Jijoh aka KareKano (“His and Her Circumstances”) - A charming, realistic, and heartfelt tale of childhood's end. High school sophomore Yukino Miyazawa rules the school. She's the idol of the girls and the heartthrob of the boys -- talented, athletic, top of her class, slender, gorgeous, and sweet. But when the she meets the equally-brilliant, devastatingly handsome Souchiiro Arima for the first time, her “perfect girl” image begins to crack, threatening to expose her as the fallible, flawed, and heartbreakingly vulnerable young woman she really is. Produced with humor and style by Gainax, KareKano will draw you into the world of first love, where nothing is certain, least of all happiness. Great music, wonderful family-values messages, and true-to-life teenage drama -- that's KareKano.

All of these ttles are avaible from fansubbers for free with the exception of KareKano, which is a licensed product available for purchase at the linked website. Ganbareyo, Furipaazo!

39 posted on 08/04/2003 12:27:05 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: hole_n_one
tlb freeping cnn....
40 posted on 08/04/2003 4:03:11 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: hole_n_one; Tennessee_Bob
Mmm....what a nice way to wake up in the morning. Brisk walk, cup of coffee, bagel, and hole_n_one pinging me to a Yatta flash file!!
41 posted on 08/04/2003 4:06:47 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: section9
I prefered Star Blazers as a kid.

42 posted on 08/04/2003 6:24:08 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Stay out of debt. Pay cash. When you run out of cash, stop buying things.)
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To: deathscythex
I'm up to episode 42. The story is just another rehash of the same damn thing we've seen in 0079, Zeta, ZZ, Wing, X... Gundam prototypes made, some boys steal Gundam prototypes, Gundam prototypes fight each other, Gundam prototypes change the face of the always-two-sided war and eventually win it.

This is why I'm glad that Sentinel exists, even if it's not animated: it changes the entire formula around. Let's get some damn variety in these Gundam stories already. Actually, the variety is already there, it just needs to be animated: Sentinel, Crossbone, and Hathaway's Flash are all pretty good, they just need to be put in visual media.
43 posted on 08/04/2003 10:58:08 AM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Chewbacca; B-Chan; Gumption; prisoner6; deathscythex; King Prout

I prefered Star Blazers as a kid.

Better known as Space Battleship Yamato, SB appealed to the Zero pilot in every young Japanese male.

SB had the good fortune to have great characters and an outsanding set of story arcs. It compares favorably to the other Eighties epics, Gundam, Macross, and of course, the Captain Harlock stories.

Anime has come a long way since Speed Racer. SR, after all, had at its heart an incestuous homoerotic relationship between Speed and Racer X...

This pair just screams Yaoi content....

Anime has come a long way, all the way from the metaphorical buggery of Speed Racer to the not so metaphorical buggery of Gundam Wing.

You'll notice that Princess Releena is not in the picture? Hmmmm? What a bunch of mincing, prancing gay boys. I'm sorry, but you'll notice that Releena gets treated like an old yellow dog througout the series?

Poor Relena. So many men. So many bathhouses....

No, in all seriousness, the Gundam franchise is superb. Including Gundam Wing. Turn A Gundam includes a musical score by Yoko Kanno, which makes it that much better.Macross is an outstanding effort, in and of itself.

Natch, none of these approach the finest anime of all time, Cowboy Bebop, but they are wonderful efforts in and of themselves.

Thanks again to B-Chan for the updates, btw.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

44 posted on 08/04/2003 11:00:03 AM PDT by section9 (Major Kusanagi is back from vacation, ready to kick the liberal ass....)
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To: deathscythex
G is great, especially in terms of storyline: it also takes Gundam to different places, since it's more of a super robot parody show than a drama on war and peace. Gundam X is pretty good, but it's still standard fare stuff: Gundam prototypes made, Gundam prototypes stolen, Gundam prototypes fight, Gundam prototypes eventually change and end the war.

As for Wing... well, if you're a Wing fan, that explains why you like the 0079 story rehashes...
45 posted on 08/04/2003 11:00:35 AM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Terpfen

What did you think of Trigun and Bebop?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

46 posted on 08/04/2003 11:01:59 AM PDT by section9 (Major Kusanagi is back from vacation, ready to kick the liberal ass....)
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To: section9
Yamato will always be my favorite anime.

Little-known Fun Fact: Yours truly was variously an artist, writer, and editor for the English-language Star Blazers comics magazine here in the States from 1993 to 1997. What fond memories...

47 posted on 08/04/2003 11:06:22 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: section9
A certain Sam Kinison line comes to mind, where basically he stated that he did not understand gay attraction at all.

-Eric

48 posted on 08/04/2003 11:07:29 AM PDT by E Rocc (how does that work?)
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To: King Prout
Whoa, calm down there, buddy. Gundam took a nosedive when Bandai purchased Sunrise, agreed, but that doesn't mean the series as a whole is terrible. You're just watching the wrong parts of it. In terms of appreciating a story, if you stay away from 0083, ZZ, F91, G-Saviour, Wing, X, and SEED, you'll be fine. I'm going to say it one more time: Sentinel, Crossbone, and Hathaway's Flash are the trio of stories that can save Gundam, if they're ever put into visual media. Get the Macross Zero animation team on those three and we'll get some classics going.

As for the mecha design, agreed: Okawara needs to go away. Thankfully, we have Hajime Katoki, Mika Akitaka, Yutaka Izubuchi, and Kimitoshi Yamane slowly working to clean up his crap... check out the Katoki's Wing Gundam redesign, for example:


49 posted on 08/04/2003 11:07:34 AM PDT by Terpfen
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To: section9
Speed and his brother, Racer X? Nah. Although I have my suspicions about Chim-Chim and Sparky.
50 posted on 08/04/2003 11:09:38 AM PDT by rintense
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