The Gay Bishop's Links

weekly standard ^ | 8/4/03 | Fred Barnes

[knak]

Episcopalian bishop-elect Gene Robinson has some curious affiliations.
by Fred Barnes
08/04/2003 2:48:00 PM

Fred Barnes, executive editor

THE CONTROVERSIAL gay Episcopal bishop-elect of New Hampshire is a founder of a group called Outright that supports gay, lesbian, or "questioning" young people 22-years-old or younger and gets them together with older gay and lesbian role models. On its website, Outright had a link to a pornographic website--until the link became an issue in the fight at the Episcopal Church's national convention in Minneapolis over ratifying the election of the bishop-elect, Gene Robinson, by New Hampshire Episcopalians. The link, indeed all links, were removed from the website today.

Robinson was reported to have denied any knowledge of the link. But he has made no secret of his connection with Outright. In his official biography, he takes credit for founding Outright, "a support group for gay/lesbian/questioning teens." Robinson has said his aim is not to be a "gay bishop," but his connection to Outright and his public appearances with his gay partner may make that label unavoidable.

The role of homosexuals in the church has divided Episcopalians across the country and at the convention. Robinson has already been approved as a bishop by the Episcopal council of priests and lay members. His election must also be endorsed by the church's council of bishops. Also on the agenda at the convention is the matter of creating a special blessing for homosexual couples.

The gay issue is threatening to split the Episcopal Church. Conservatives, traditionalists, and their allies note the Bible is explicit in identifying gay sexual relations as sinful and insist the church should stand against worldly trends. The church's official position is opposition to sexual activity outside of marriage. The pro-gay side argues the church must accept everyone, including gays. Those standing with Robinson say conservatives have threatened to leave the Episcopal Church before--and that they backed off then and are likely to do the same now. However, some parishes are exploring a different option: aligning with bishops outside the United States who oppose openly gay priests and bishops.

[knak]

My mother has been calling me for days crying about this and civil union thing. She has been an organist for the Episcopal church since before I was born. She is going to leave the church if all this happens. I don't blame her one bit.

[LiteKeeper]

Link to Outright sites

[LiteKeeper]

Robinson is particularly sponsoring the Concord site. If you check the others, the links are still there.

[laweeks]

Episcopal Church has only one weapon: the Bible. Throw out the trash immediately. No apologies. Out! Let's see that law suit.

Why don't these pillow-biters start their own church?

[wideawake]

Why don't these pillow-biters start their own church?

Because then their pro-sodomy beliefs would become only one opinion among many.

They will not stop until they censor every cultural institution that might criticize their perversion.

[knak]

pillow-biters

that one took me a minute.....yuck

[ElkGroveDan]

Curiously, GOOGLE's cache of the site seems to be empty? How could that be?

[secret garden]

She's not the only one holding her breath today. I hope and pray things are done according to the faith and not conventional "wisdom".

[Morgan in Denver]

Nothing Episcopalians do surprises me anymore, which is why my wife and I voted on past Episcopalian changes with our feet.

It is painfully obvious the homonazi's have another goal in their sights and religion will either change to their will or the Democrats on the left will do to religion what they have done to the Boy Scouts.

[sgtbono2002]

Tell your Mom she isnt leaving the church,: The church is leaving her. But dont you think its nice to organise an outfit that brings along the youth and gives them role models . Role models that would dream of doign anything sexual with them. Yeah right in a pigs eye. Bend over son I have something for you.

[Humidston]

From your link:

Convergence for peace at Bath

Aug 9 2003 7:00AM (5 hrs) The initial gathering in Library Park, Bath, will begin to assemble at 7 a.m. The Christening of the warship is scheduled for 11 a.m., which happens to coincide with the approximate time the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki on Aug. 9, 1945. At 9 - 9:15 a.m., a Peacemakers' Procession will make its way to the gates of Bath Iron Works, assembling there for speeches, singing, camaraderie, solidarity, and special events. (Music and songs of protest will be provided throughout the morning by the Pete Seegar incarnate, Ethan Miller, and the always-stimulating "Raging Grannies." and Rockland folk singer Lizzie Dickerson) Organizers of the rally are VETERANS FOR PEACE. Key Note speaker is Kathy Kelly founder of Voices in the Wilderness.

[Dems_R_Losers]

Thank you so much for posting this. I really did not know too much about Robinson, and hoped he was not what I call a "gay-first" guy. But this article shows that he is.

[horse_doc]

I believe that the term for this kind of outreach to sexually-confused young people is called, "chickenhawking".

[onedoug]

Last year there was a "gay pride" parade in Studio City CA. Most business owners along the route (many gay themselves) claim it cost them lost revenue.

This year the parade organizers were offered a park for their...activities. They're having none of that, however, as that would give people too much of a choice as to whether they wanted to attend.

[Fifth Business]

The Monday Digest on this page was where I first saw this story, this morning: http://www.orthodoxanglican.org/Virtuosity/gc2003.html

[Humidston]

Knak, please tell your mom she's not alone. The church ran me off back in the '70's, and today I couldn't be more grateful to have found a much better church home!

Tell your mom to find ANY church NOT affiliated with the National Council of Churches and she'll be protected from them defiling God's word with their man-made doctrine.

I wouldn't be caught dead back in that so-called "church."

[knak]

I'll check into it. Thanks...

[Humidston]

And I'll say a prayer for her too. I bet she's a sweetheart!

[laweeks]

"This year the parade organizers were offered a park for their...activities. They're having none of that"

Hey, they have the SCOTUS on their side; do you? Are you free to pray in school, prevent abortions, put up religious Christmas displays on taxpayer property, stop pornography and condom distribution in schools? Huh? Of course not. But somewhere, deep down inside our Constitution, next to the words penumbra, abortion, and privacy, the word buggery now appears. Lord A'Mighty, Colonel!

[skeeter]

It sure will be fun to watch the press defend this guy in the face of all their hand wringing over child molesting priests in past years.

They've invested alot in their "gay" bishop. How much more of their credibility is he worth?

[TonyRo76]

Tell your mom to find ANY church NOT affiliated with the National Council of Churches

Emphasis mine, and YES! That is the key. The NCC is nothing but a bureaucracy of do-gooder apostates and country-club heretics. It's the vortex of evil infiltrating the True Church.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Big hugs to your mom. I remember the turmoil Vatican II caused.

[kkindt]

Your mother should leave already because this man is already an ordained clergy in the church with the approval of the church polity

[kkindt]

They want the buildings and money of the church - starting their own church means they have to come up with the money and buildings. Hence the strategy is to 'take over' the so called mainline churches and they are all ripe for the plucking - the liberals have caused most Bible believing members to leave their ranks already and so for example the United CHurch of Christ - which years ago required its clergy to believe the Bible was the infallible Word of God now doesn't require them to believe the Bible at all - including its teachings about Christ's death for our sins or His resurrection. Hence the liberals have made the mainline churches ripe for the homosexual harvest and they are falling one by one. Soon these homosexuals will control most of the historic church buildings in the United States - and the camps - and the wealth.

[Elsie]

Proverbs 14:34
 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.
 

2 Timothy 4:3
 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
 

 

Ezekiel 22:26
Her priests do violence to my law and profane my holy things; they do not distinguish between the holy and the common; they teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean.....

Jeremiah 8:9
 The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the LORD, what kind of wisdom do they have?

 

[Elsie]

Just WHY do they want or need the Churches!!!!!


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/958094/posts

[jocon307]

So, did Fred Barnes break this story? Quite a scoop for him if he did.

And remind your mom that it won't be she who leaves the Church, it'll be the Church leaving her.

[Gang of Five]

Bump.

The links identified by Fred Barnes on that stinking web site are gone. And, as somebody else has observed, the Google cache is empty.

Did anybody get the links before they were hidden by the oh-so-politically-correct doing damage control?

[Elsie]

"Those standing with Robinson say conservatives have threatened to leave the Episcopal Church before--and that they backed off then and are likely to do the same now. However, some parishes are exploring a different option: aligning with bishops outside the United States who oppose openly gay priests and bishops. "

[visitor]

No, David W. Virtue of http://www.orthodoxanglican.org/Virtuosity/index.html did ...rto

[Neenah]

Have you been wounded in the house of the Lord?

Sometimes wouldn't you just want to take your Bible and meet down by the lake under a huge tree, with believers and a man of God who is seasoned...loves God....loves all people..and isn't interested in building the biggest and best church in town?

Isn't interested in numbers, or the biggest collection...but instead just wants to show you Jesus with skin ?

Me too.

[Neenah]

My post above was for "All"...not directed to VISITOR. Sorry.

[schmootman]

Just watched NBC News. Not a word about this "chickenhawking" website. Amazing!

[mountaineer]

I believe that the term for this kind of outreach to sexually-confused young people is called, "chickenhawking".

It sounds like quite the little gay dating service.

[PJ-Comix]

I believe that the term for this kind of outreach to sexually-confused young people is called, "chickenhawking".

NAMBLA?

[visitor]

hey, being mistaken for "All" is not a "sorry" mistake, your welcome to reply anytime, and, oh, btw, I like your homepage :^)...rto

[L,TOWM]

You oughta try our place. Before our church took it over, it was a defunct bowling alley...

Pews? What exactly are,,, "pews"?

[Zipporah]

Yikes! Did you see this? Palyamory

[autoresponder]

No "metatags" used on their websites for search engine web detection

[Neenah]

You're very kind, thank you !

[Neenah]

Ahhhh, that brings back fond memories. We had a place like that too ! But we had the BEST time of fellowhip all working days and nights cleaning it up, painting, repairing, etc. Ours used to be a Tavern !!

It was great ! We put on Praise Music and just had a wonderful time ! You just be grateful and have yourselves a great time too ! Thanks for the memory!!!!

[Humidston]

The Episcopal church is toxic. This Robinson issue shouldn't be the issue when the real issue is the fact that the church is now barren and unworthy - regardless of how the Robinson problem is determined!

Robinson is merely a symptom of the illness that plagues them all, IMHO.

[George W. Bush]

Curiously, GOOGLE's cache of the site seems to be empty? How could that be?

I noticed that earlier. It would seem to warrant investigation. It could hardly be possible if Google hadn't taken the action deliberately.

I guess that sodomite Episcopalians are taking over Google.

If someone uses the Google Toolbar for IE and does searches on that website, then does that alone force an update of the Google cache?

[Prince Charles]

The Internet Wayback machine has links:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.outright.org

[mel]

It is going to be hard to start over, i hate what these people are doing to the church. I have been thinking gee i need to get off my rear and find another church

[codder too]

Barnes stated that the links were gone now. The one he mentioned by name was "3 pillows". He was able to link it before it was removed.

[Humidston]

Is this the mysterious missing link off the Robinson-endorsed website??

And I particularly liked their new and improved definition of CHEATING/SWAPPING/SCREWING AROUND ON YOUR MATE:

"Polyamory" is based on the Greek and French for "many loves." A polyamorous relationship is a romantic relationship involving more than two people."

Amazing how people try to bastardize the facts - just to rationalize their aberrant behavior.

[Humidston]

If you want a recommendation, FReepmail me. As I said on another thread, I'm an ex-Episcopalian and wild horses couldn't drag me back now!

[Humidston]

FYI - http://www.threepillows.com

WARNING: PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL!!

[codder too]

Where are the firewalls when you need them???