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Is anyone familiar with ex-gay Michael Johnston? Is this story accurate or is it a smear job?
1 posted on 08/07/2003 3:58:34 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
ex-gay ministries ping
2 posted on 08/07/2003 4:00:26 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
Didn't this happen to another anti-homo "leader" a few years ago? Showed up trolling in a gay bar, as I recall.

Too bad, since it gives the poofs something to crow about. But it doesn't change the basic fact that homosexuality is a moral abomination.

3 posted on 08/07/2003 4:02:22 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Clint N. Suhks; *Homosexual Agenda
ex-gay ministries ping!
4 posted on 08/07/2003 4:04:53 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
From the full article:

"“Many people are still behind him, and we think he did the responsible thing by closing the ministry down,” LaBarbera added."

I imagine there are people behind him, too. Men.
8 posted on 08/07/2003 4:11:56 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: HostileTerritory
The vilest offender who truly believes,
that moment from Jesus a pardon receives.
From Fannie Crosby's TO GOD BE THE GLORY
9 posted on 08/07/2003 4:14:25 PM PDT by DrewsDad
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To: HostileTerritory
The difference is ...once you have a relationship with the risen Lord Jesus
and you stumble the Holy Spirit brings conviction and repentance

Without that relationship and no Holy Spirit conviction repentance-
you are able to "rationalize" your sin away...even defend it....
and remain lost to damnation...

Its humbling to fall...and know your true condition before God

only then can one even begin to understand..

the meaning of His mercy and his grace..

unmerited forgiveness mercy and salvation- God resists the proud...
11 posted on 08/07/2003 4:22:28 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: HostileTerritory
How many alcoholics "fall off the wagon" from time to time? A lot. But, the difference is that no one is there offering to declare alcoholism normal or healthy.

What the gay rights movement does is it makes the disease excusable. If Alcoholic were told by a certain segment of society that what they were doing was normal and healthy, many would have a lot more problem staying sober.

The lifestyle is so hard to escape from. Paulk was guilty of a minor indiscretion that was punished very firmly. Others just failed, and with the exception of Johnston have gone to the gay community which will be more than happy to use them as examples of failures. But there are also real successess out there.

14 posted on 08/07/2003 4:41:57 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: HostileTerritory; scripter
I heard about this the other day. But like the other guy said about the Devil not letting go easily I believe it is so. Only he said it more eloquently.

I think people can come out of the lifestyle, many people do. Many famous people have:

David Bowie
Lou Reed
Julie (Melissa Etheridge's ex)
Ann Heche

etc.

I think being homosexual has a lot to do with serious dysfunctional parentage, drug taking and liberal lifestyle, as well as constant barragement by the media that it's "okay" and "politically correct" to be so.


15 posted on 08/07/2003 5:02:19 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: HostileTerritory
No different than someone who quit alcohol having a weak moment and taking a drink.

This guy thought he was cured but found out he still has his sickness and needs more therapy.

20 posted on 08/07/2003 6:38:04 PM PDT by fso301
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22 posted on 08/07/2003 6:47:54 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: HostileTerritory
Maybe there is somthing to the doctrine of predestination. Rather spooky thought.
24 posted on 08/07/2003 6:55:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: HostileTerritory
It's like an recovering alcoholic falling off the wagon. When the lifestyle is imbibed and hooks the soul, it's a life-long struggle to maintain sexual sobriety.

That's all it means.

25 posted on 08/07/2003 6:58:42 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: HostileTerritory
I know someone in Alcoholics Anonymous who later fell off the wagon, does that make AA a fraud and a waste of time?
26 posted on 08/07/2003 7:03:12 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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