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Liberia: US girl rescued (by Marines)
ITV.com ^ | 9 Aug 2003

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:10:56 AM PDT by veronica

US Marines have helped rescue a seven-year-old girl from a rebel-held area of the war-torn Liberian capital Monrovia.

Fighting had trapped American-born Shadya behind front lines with her mother in the US and her father's whereabouts unknown.

But embassy staff in white flack-jackets, flanked by Marines, used a four-day lull in the fighting to cross the front line and rescue the girl.

The rushed her back to the US embassy away from the rebel-held port area along with her 17-year-old sister.

Liberian rebels are fighting to oust President Charles Taylor.

Taylor, a former warlord blamed for 14 years of near-constant war in Liberia and in many of the other conflicts in West Africa, has pledged to resign on Monday and leave Liberia.

But rebel forces are regrouping and there are fears that sporadic outbreaks of violence will develop into the full-scale assaults which have claimed thousands of lives.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; goodnews; liberia; marines; rescue; usembassy; usmc; usmilitaryteam
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1 posted on 08/09/2003 8:10:56 AM PDT by veronica
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To: LindaSOG
BTTT!!!!!
4 posted on 08/09/2003 8:33:52 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Oenothera
I saw those pictures too. Apparently they didn't move the hearts of many FReepers, as much as the ones coming out of Iraq or did they? Probably not. Bush won't send troops there you're right. But I think we're losing an opportunity to win the hearts of a country NEGLECTED through eight years of Clinton-Gore. The people were overjoyed, overexcited, and imagine the PR mileage out of that one if they were waving US flags. But no... why should we be concerned with Liberia, a country we started, that has a constitution close to ours and even a flag that is modeled after ours? Thankfully a Liberian citizen can serve in our military and obtain citizenship but where does that leave Liberia itself? With a braindrain like Puerto Rico. Until islam completely overruns Liberia, kills the christians, and Osama's flunkies set up shop, then do not expect much. After all, we are not lifting a finger against the Sudan. We nearly bankrupted South Africa and put that country under, but Sudan slaughters millions.

Sorry for the rant, but people need to be reminded that Liberians deserve freedom as much as Iraqis. Liberians have a chance to be more successful than Iraq because there has never been democracy or civilization in Iraq.
5 posted on 08/09/2003 8:40:49 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: Oenothera
Strangely, there was a day when we could send a few companies of Marines into almost any small country and take control of it. Seems that won't work anymore. Perhaps some should consider why that is.

* The muslim horde invaders? I think people forgot that Mohammed's horde had conquered what we would think were 'civilized' countries. It does not take as much an effort to pound rural, defenseless africans into the sand, as much as fighting the Spanish and Portuguese. They still did it and they managed to slaughter a lot of English too... Seeing as how they can move into a country and turn it back to a dust pit, I'd take notice. Trinidad was being turned into one big muslim terrorist camp while Panday was in office (think Pakistani muslims) and recently British intelligence found a small Al Qaeda cell there. Trinidad was a big beautiful British colony and even afer independence remained so till Panday took office. So... it would do well for us to keep an eye.
7 posted on 08/09/2003 9:26:52 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: LindaSOG
Thanks for the heads up!
8 posted on 08/09/2003 10:14:42 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: cyborg
The people were overjoyed, overexcited, and imagine the PR mileage out of that one if they were waving US flags.

Once we're controlling our own boarders and protecting Americans right here in America from criminal invaders (AKA, illegal aliens or whatever politically correct term of the week is), I’ll be more inclined to sending our thinly stretched military forces to far flung corners of the Earth on PR missions.

As far as mobs waving US flags… They waved palms for Jesus one day and screamed for his crucifixion the next.

9 posted on 08/09/2003 10:30:19 AM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Aaron0617
Africans should help other African nations. Good job by Bush. Hope he keeps the Marines on the ships
Nigerian Colonel Emeka Onwuama is carried by Liberians on arrival at the international airport in Monrovia, August 4, 2003. Long-awaited West African peacekeepers arrived as war-weary Liberians danced for joy in ruined streets on hopes of an end to 14 years of bloodshed. Photo by Juda Ngwenya/Reuters

I hope these Nigerian forces don't rob the Liberians blind.

11 posted on 08/09/2003 10:39:00 AM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: cyborg
there has never been ... civilization in Iraq.

I went to publik skool too. But I've done a little reading since then....
12 posted on 08/09/2003 10:40:44 AM PDT by ChemistCat (Oklahoma City--Where 56% of HS Seniors Get No Diploma, And No One Knows Why Not.)
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To: Aaron0617
See Freepers the UN is coming. They don't need those Marines

Bangladesh, Namibia Pledge Liberia Troops

Aug 8,11:36 PM ET AP UNITED NATIONS - Bangladesh and Namibia agreed to contribute more than 5,000 troops for a United Nations peacekeeping force for Liberia (news - web sites), U.N. officials and diplomats said Friday.

The U.N. force will replace a West African force that has already begun deploying to Liberia.

The U.N. Security Council ordered the U.N. force to replace the multinational contingent by Oct. 1, but the proposal given to potential troop-contributing nations at a closed-door meeting Thursday calls for U.N. peacekeepers to start deploying on Nov. 1.

13 posted on 08/09/2003 10:43:33 AM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: ChemistCat
as far as civilization that would be receptive to democratic ideals... people on the left think that three months is enough time for Iraq to become democratic and civilized, when it has taken the US two hundred years?
14 posted on 08/09/2003 10:44:30 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: Aaron0617
...But those UN forces better hurry.

Rape Surges Amid Anarchy in Liberia

AP MONROVIA, Liberia - Clutching her daughter's photograph to her breast, Rebecca throws back her head and wails. Gunmen burst into her home and raped the child on her 10th birthday, leaving her lying in a pool of blood and vomit — dead.

Every time fighting surges in Liberia (news - web sites), women are raped, aid workers say. But this time, the scale is incalculable. Wild-eyed men are going door to door, ransacking homes, beating and killing people, and raping any women — or girls — they find.

Both sides in the battle are implicated — the fighters of warlord President Charles Taylor, as well as the rebels trying to overthrow him. Women used to be most at risk fleeing through the bush, aid workers say. Now they are not safe in their homes either.

15 posted on 08/09/2003 10:46:30 AM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: Aaron0617
I hope these Nigerian forces don't rob the Liberians blind.

Robbery is the least of the worries for the liberians.

On February 12th, the UN released a report on human rights abuses in Sierra Leone, a western African nation that has been convulsed with civil war for much of the last decade. While attributing the overwhelming majority of atrocities to anti-government insurgents, the report acknowledged that a Nigerian-led West African regional "peacekeeping" force working with the UN has been "summarily executing detainees who were allegedly either rebels or rebel sympathizers," reported the BBC on February 14th. An earlier BBC report quoted sources in Freetown, Sierra Leone's capital, who described a January 13th massacre of 22 suspected rebel sympathizers by "peacekeepers." Other witnesses quoted in the February 12th New York Times accused UN personnel of executing children suspected of being rebels and a score of patients at Connaught Hospital in Freetown on January 12th. Other reports described the summary detention of civilians, brutal body searches, "whipping, beating, varying types of public humiliation" of detainees ­ including children ­ and acts of sexual assault committed by "peacekeepers."

"Nigerian officers say quite openly that they shoot rebel suspects on sight," observed BBC reporter Mark Doyle. "One Nigerian officer told me his forces were advancing against the rebels because the Nigerian army had adopted the rebels' own tough guerilla tactics." Those tactics include using civilians as "human shields," the arbitrary slaughter of non-combatants, and the mutilation of victims with machetes. The Nigerian-led "peacekeepers" have matched the rebels' ruthlessness by conducting indiscriminate aerial bombardment of neighborhoods in Freetown and pitilessly mowing down the hapless civilians used as "human shields." Over a two-week stretch in January, the rebels and "peacekeepers" collaborated in the deaths of thousands of civilians; estimated casualty counts run as high as 5,000 killed.


16 posted on 08/09/2003 10:54:45 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Oenothera
Marines. Strangely, there was a day when we could send a few companies of Marines into almost any small country and take control of it. Seems that won't work anymore. Perhaps some should consider why that is.

Beirut, Lebanon 1986 for one... A disastrous policy implemented by none other than our beloved President Ronald Reagan. Then of course, there was Blackhawk down, courtesy of Bill Clinton and Les Aspen.

If there’s one thing that W has done right, it has been immediate use of overwhelming military force in Afghanistan and Iraq. Any other approach leads to Vietnam / Korea scenarios.

Let’s get the hell out of the Balkans! How many months were we going to be there? Just till Christmas. Christmas of what year?

17 posted on 08/09/2003 10:57:22 AM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Aaron0617
Every time fighting surges in Liberia (news - web sites), women are raped, aid workers say. But this time, the scale is incalculable.

The fighting appears a bit more intense than usual for the region, too.

18 posted on 08/09/2003 10:59:48 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Barnacle
Once we're controlling our own boarders and protecting Americans right here in America from criminal invaders (AKA, illegal aliens or whatever politically correct term of the week is), I’ll be more inclined to sending our thinly stretched military forces to far flung corners of the Earth on PR missions.

* I agree with the part about protecting our borders. When I went to inquire about a South African visa, I was grilled about my character, and what I had to contribute to SA society. When I was in France, they asked for papers on the train and God help you if you had no passport.
:sigh: My mother was one of the few last immigrants to America that were asked questions like that.
She still has her citizenship book printed by the DAR.

As far as mobs waving US flags… They waved palms for Jesus one day and screamed for his crucifixion the next.

* I would not say that really. Iraqi citizens are still happy we are there (for the most part).

20 posted on 08/09/2003 11:01:36 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: Aaron0617
Nigerian Colonel Emeka Onwuama is carried by Liberians on arrival at the international airport in Monrovia...

Ho! So these fine Liberian chaps are taking me to a barbecue dinner...how hospitable of them!

21 posted on 08/09/2003 11:02:08 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: cyborg
As far as mobs waving US flags… They waved palms for Jesus one day and screamed for his crucifixion the next.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Liberians with U.S. flags...that ain't all some of them have.


22 posted on 08/09/2003 11:04:33 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: veronica
Can't you hear the BBC now ... "this was staged" ... "the girl was rescued by the militia from the American soldiers ...". ;)
23 posted on 08/09/2003 11:07:40 AM PDT by nmh
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To: Oenothera
I agree that Somalia was different. There is a big difference between Moslem countries and Christian ones, and we should stick out noses more readily and willingly into the Christian ones instead of leaving them prey to Moslem interference.

Turn about is fair play, however, and abandoning Africam nations to the nonexistant mercies of the muslum nations is no wise policy to be followed.

Liberia: Arms cache seized

07/08/2003 20:42 - (SA)

Monrovia - West African peacekeepers in war-torn Liberia on Thursday blocked a cache of arms apparently ordered by the government of President Charles Taylor, who is under a UN arms embargo, a military source said.

The source who requested anonymity said the soldiers apprehended two trucks at Robertsfield International Airport filled with arms including rocket launchers, automatic weapons and ammunition.

They arrived on a Boeing 707 plane bearing the number 9G-LAD flown by an Arab crew, according to witnesses at the airport.

Defence Minister Daniel Chea had come to the airport to inspect the cache.

According to several websites consulted by AFP, the number of the plane corresponds to one owned by Johnsons Air, a Ghana-based company which has links with First International Airlines, a Belgium-based firm.

The two firms and the plane in questions have been cited in several Internet reports for trafficking in arms from the Belgian city of Ostend.

The west African peacekeepers have been positioned at the airport since Monday when a vanguard force arrived to help end Liberia's ruinous war which has been dragging on for nearly five years.

Taylor, who has been indicted by a UN-backed court in neighbouring Sierra Leone for his role in that country's barbaric 10-year civil war, has been under an arms embargo and other sanctions since May 2001.


24 posted on 08/09/2003 11:13:37 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: cyborg
Hmmm. I'd say it took only a few years for the US to become as democratic and civilized as it ever was. (We never were a pure democracy; of course--that depends upon an educated and moral culture that has never truly existed. All the struggles we have had within ourselves yet stem from the fact that our population has never lived up to the requirements of a free and moral society. We owned other people, killed innocent natives, lied to go to war, etc etc etc.)

In the last 50 years, the civilization we DID possess has substantially eroded. We no longer educate children even to be able to work; we permit them to be indoctrinated in great social experiments that leave them largely unfit to produce. The ideals you rightly venerate are no longer in play here. They enjoy lip service and little more by more than half of the population; let us say nearly all Gore voters, and a significant share of W's lukewarm supporters. A substantial fraction of the core patriots who are left permit themselves to be distracted by this and that, side issues that they think matter. It's rather like watching people in a sinking life raft arguing about macrame techniques for patching holes with jute, while the sharks circle. Gay marriage! Zero tolerance policies! Whether cell phones may be used while driving! Good grief. We cannot see the forest for the trees any longer. In England, laws are being passed to prevent homeowners from attempting to hurt burglars in any way. We're not so far from that extreme.

You honestly think that we enjoy the liberty our Founding Fathers intended? Please note that when our Constitution was drafted, it was not possible for a government to possess weaponry superior to that owned by individuals. Now, there are many places where many law-abiding citizens cannot possess weapons at all, even simple bladed weapons.

I worry about my government intruding upon me in small ways every day, and about its stranglehold over the economy through a micromanaging and punitive tax code. I need a permit to hold a yard sale, cannot hold more than one a year, and my town expects part of the take. I doubt the Iraqis are so closely controlled.

I lock myself in day and night because the criminals have all the rights here. Corruption at the upper levels is not on Saddam's level, but tell me Grey Davis isn't the same sort of man! We're working hard on becoming Iraq-of-Christmas-Past, trust me.

I am not sure we're equipped to give anyone else democratic ideals. To me, it's almost a wonder that we can give them a government that isn't lining children up at the edges of pits and gunning them down. But perhaps legal abortion-for-convenience is not morally very different.

Iraq has enjoyed a vast improvement in a few months. The more of their rascals we can gun down, the happier a place Iraq will be when it all shakes down. They may have a better democracy than ours by the time we're done, because we just keep briefly cycling OUR criminals through our wonderful cable-TV-equipped academies of crime...and theirs, by and large, are too reckless to keep their heads down while the US Army is in town.

In short, we cannot give Iraq, or Liberia, or anyone else a share of what we USED to possess. When we were a Christian nation tolerant of religious minorities, we came close--and still committed plenty of uncivilized atrocities of our own.

There is the Platonic ideal of America, and you and I hold that close in our hearts, but when we begin to expect the poor imitation of it that actually rules over us to achieve things as if it was the ideal....we will be disappointed. Let's just settle for no more mass graves of civilians dating from under our rule of Iraq, okay? Let us help them protect their treasures, and get a government in place that is reasonably well-behaved, steps down when it's not wanted anymore, and won't help terrorists kill us. That's basically all I expect from OUR government anymore. More than that will take a miracle, and that's what I'm REALLY holding out for.
25 posted on 08/09/2003 11:15:29 AM PDT by ChemistCat (Oklahoma City--Where 56% of HS Seniors Get No Diploma, And No One Knows Why Not.)
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To: ChemistCat
BTTT... for when I get home from work!
26 posted on 08/09/2003 11:28:37 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: cyborg
...there has never been democracy or civilization in Iraq.

&&

Well, yeah, no democracy, but no civilization? Surely, you cannot be that ignorant of ancient history!
27 posted on 08/09/2003 12:34:08 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Oenothera
It's a pity we don't stay out. It's a loser as is the whole of Africa. It's something they will have to sort out. Involvement will cost Bush the election.

All the technology that was poured in by major powers such as the USA, Germany, France and others is being trashed.

Examples of once successful countries that are going and gone downhill are South Africa and Zimbalway. I don't know of one country in Africa that is progressing under their engrained 'tribal' systems.

We should not be putting our 'hated whites' in lawless countries to be chopped up. It's certainly not why I pay taxes.

28 posted on 08/09/2003 1:17:51 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Aaron0617; archy
I agree with both of you. The words 'peacekeeper' and 'Nigerian' just don't jibe. I had some real concerns when I heard they were going in.

Going off on a tangent here - I met a lot of Nigerians when I was in college (1970s). One fella offered me sex in return for cleaning his apartment every week. Still gives me the creeps just thinking about it.

29 posted on 08/09/2003 1:45:07 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: Bigg Red
Well, one is inclined in this country to use a very narrow definition of "civilization" when our way of life is being threatened. BUT: we in general don't qualify as civilized, ourselves, if the definition is that narrow.
30 posted on 08/09/2003 2:14:14 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Oklahoma City--Where 56% of HS Seniors Get No Diploma, And No One Knows Why Not.)
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To: Bigg Red
Whoops you're right. Sorry. It's the British colonialist in me, too many years of eating my mother's black pudding
32 posted on 08/09/2003 4:32:21 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: Oenothera
The British wanted to give more landholding rights to black farmers (which the white farmers were not willing to give), and they did not agree with the terms of commonwealth. Ian Smith, although controversial, I probably would have sided more with him than the black marxists like Mugabe. I think Smith realized he was not going to win, and then tried to be diplomatic. People who are under systematic (I hate to use this term!) but... disenfranchisement? no matter what the good that may have come out of it, are hell bent on revenge. Although not every black Rhodesian was against Ian Smith as many fought in his army as Selous Scouts and spies. I am not sure what many of the white farmers expected after years of land grabbing and underpaying laborers. Of course Rhodesia would tumble into a mess because educating blacks was not high on the list, and to turn over a first world African country to the undereducated masses oh well... Too bad. Africans were not really prepared for independence as well as many British holdings in the West Indies.

Same situation with South Africa. South Africa though has way more problems than Rhodesia-Zim, too many different tribal interests, the ANC vs. Inkatha vs. the twelve other dominant tribes in SA.
33 posted on 08/09/2003 4:53:23 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: ChemistCat
awesome post... my response would be underwhelming though... excellent nothing to add here
34 posted on 08/09/2003 4:55:31 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: cyborg
I'm in "I'm supposed to be writing an article for pay, and I'm totally blocked" mode. Think of it as a warm up. ;-)
35 posted on 08/09/2003 5:31:32 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Oklahoma City--Where 56% of HS Seniors Get No Diploma, And No One Knows Why Not.)
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To: Aaron0617
"Both sides in the battle are implicated — the fighters of warlord President Charles Taylor, as well as the rebels trying to overthrow him. Women used to be most at risk fleeing through the bush, aid workers say. Now they are not safe in their homes either."

That's the root of the problem, isn't it? There are no 'good guys' in this one.

Liberia is yet another African sh*thole where natives slaughter natives. Let me hear Jackson, Mfume, Sharpton, et al wax rhapsodic over "The Motherland". These people deserve each other.........and the quicker Africa is depopulated, the better off the world will be.

Sound harsh? History is on my side in this one.

36 posted on 08/09/2003 5:51:10 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: ChemistCat
I feel for you... I know that feeling!
37 posted on 08/09/2003 6:15:17 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: LindaSOG
Bump, are there pictures?
39 posted on 08/10/2003 12:30:49 AM PDT by JustPiper (Moving Sale: U.N. Going to Toronto!)
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To: Oenothera
I meant to say actually in that quote that Africa didn't turn out as well as many West Indian countries. That is because the West Indian countries retained (many of them) either commonwealth status OR retained the English system of government/education. I need to reread some of my posts because those are very important facts (can't believe I didn't say them!). It's for the reason you pointed out, about people sitting on it. It was in a farmer's best interests to have an 'underclass' because who works the farms? Hey an educated African isn't going to want to pick fruit trees for 20 zim a day or 100R a day in South Africa. Actually, my criticism about British colonists was that the people most worthy of education/civilization were the 'upper class' because an Irishman and black African, Aboriginie, Indian, they were all the same to many BC's. But oh well... Trinidad was originall named by Christopher Colombus for the three mountains (holy trinity) but I'm glad that the Spanish didn't start and finish in Trinidad. They were pretty good at hustling slaves, not much else. Either way, in the end, English colonialism was basically a good thing.

Also, you are right about the literacy rates in the South. Do you think a Civil War without slavery (illiterate slaves, uneducated slaves forming a gross underclass) would have turned out differently? Not to mention the uneducated poor whites? I don't want to say that confederate soldiers were uneducated! How much more developed would America have been had we not created a black/white underclass anyway? Not that I'm making excuses for people, but I think some FReepers fail to realize that the slave mentality is very entrenched. Even with AA programs and all that, you still have the idea that being educated is 'acting white'. This is the same reason that South Africa lagges behind the ANC doesn't want one national language, because the only logical choice would be afrikaans.
40 posted on 08/10/2003 8:20:35 AM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: radiohead
Going off on a tangent here - I met a lot of Nigerians when I was in college (1970s). One fella offered me sex in return for cleaning his apartment every week. Still gives me the creeps just thinking about it.

My brother, M'bokwa Orkwzaana, is the former Nigerian Minister of Finance, and I am prepared to make you an offer via which you can become rich....

41 posted on 08/10/2003 12:25:38 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: JustPiper
Bump, are there pictures?

Related newsphotos *here.

-archy-/-

42 posted on 08/10/2003 12:30:56 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: RightOnline
That's the root of the problem, isn't it? There are no 'good guys' in this one.

Liberia is yet another African sh*thole where natives slaughter natives.

Welcome to the reality of Africa.

-archy-/-

43 posted on 08/10/2003 12:32:53 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
My brother, M'bokwa Orkwzaana, is the former Nigerian Minister of Finance, and I am prepared to make you an offer via which you can become rich....

Hmmm. While this sounds intriguing, I think I'll pass. I hear there's some Nigerian scam going around...

44 posted on 08/10/2003 12:51:21 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: archy
Thank you Bump!
45 posted on 08/10/2003 6:36:09 PM PDT by JustPiper (Moving Sale: U.N. Going to Toronto!)
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To: just5
"How is history on your side? Do you have historical proof?"

"Historical proof" of what? and what exactly is "historical proof"?? Do you mean "historical evidence to support my contention"?

Are you clumsily asking if I have historical support for my point that the world would be better off if Africa was depopulated? Are you wondering if the world is a better place because of Africa? the endless tribal warfare? lovely gifts to the world like AIDS (yep............they gave us that, too)? their total lack of contribution to anything resembling modern technology? their utter hatred of each other.......the senseless brutality they show to each other and to whites? the desolation they've wrought through ignorance, pettiness, and outright stupidity? their tinpot dictators? their breeding ground for Islamic terrorists?

JUST tell me where to stop................I CAN go on.

Surely you jest. You can't have two brain cells to rub together and ask me that, can you????

47 posted on 08/11/2003 6:47:25 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
RE: #47

but tell us how you really feel. LOL!
48 posted on 08/11/2003 6:55:25 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback
Well....................he made me do it. :)
49 posted on 08/11/2003 7:00:07 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: cyborg
I was grilled about my character, and what I had to contribute to SA society. When I was in France, they asked for papers on the train and God help you if you had no passport.

And some Freepers want to bring that to America...

Your papers, "please"!

50 posted on 08/11/2003 7:12:38 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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