Posted on 08/09/2003 12:13:28 PM PDT by GoRepGo
You asked whether Wythe was pro-slavery. He said he was not. I was not asked or accused but, as previously posted, jumped in to pick a fight with you over your impertinent prosecutorial inquiries to him. You are not interested in a two-way conversation.
You are interested in preaching. I am not at all interested in being preached at, whether first or second hand.
You further align yourself with these border booboisie self-appointed Barney Fifes in RVs waving guns at and threatening and detaining without probable cause or warrant (which are required of real law enforcers) people they do not know because they look, gulp, Mexican or Mexican-American or maybe Italian-Americans out for a stroll or whatever flips Barney's switch after a few six-packs while he is yahooing across the full-moonlit desert with other great pretenders.
The Barneys need a stiff vacation in the federal hoosegow and to be stripped of their ill-used property and then to learn to mind their own business and not make believe they are the government.
As to the first part of your post, that just shows how desperately those mothers want to have a better life for their kids, like Cuban Elian Gonzalez's mother who died to get him here only to have Castro get him back. If you think the Mexicans are coming to be permanent drags on the welfare rolls, there are two answers: First, even the Arkansas Antichrist signed off on sharp lifetime AFDC limits. Second, they have a lot higher ambition than welfare. What you are saying is what people said about Tommy Temper Tantrum Tancredo's Italian ancestors when they got off the boat 100 years ago. Tommy is now a real blueblood, I guess, and imagines he is descended from the Italian province that was located in Colorado or something.
Finally, the courts, wrongheadedly no doubt, have consistently ruled that you cannot deny public benefits to people on the basis of national origin even if they are not legally here. I don't like those rulings but they are what they are. Shall we abolish benefits or pay for them to be provided to the illegals, too? Those are the choices that the courts allow.
If the sore spot is jobs, let's get rid of NAFTA, GATT and WTO and there will be plenty of them for everyone. Remember that the AFL-CIO USED to be the bulwark against illegal immigration AND free trade because they did not like competition. I grew up on that in a union household. Now the AFL-CIO is largely gummint workers who fear no competition from illegals.
Sure, lets put their 20 or so kids in public school. Plus they can easily get welfare and food stamps. Their family in NY are probably already sucking every dime they can out of our welfare system. A great deal for them seeing how they've never paid even a nickel in taxes.
The stupid, bleeding heart, guilt ridden liberals can't see how this hurts every single legal citizen in America.
I am not going to Mexico because at least some of my ancestors (Germans) were here 150+ years ago in Southern Indiana and a collateral ancestor was a Jesuit priest who was among the founders of Maryland. None of those had to submit papers to bureaucrats to enter. This was still a free country not the country of Mama, may I? If I did go to Mexico, I would at least find a lot better type of person than our border paranoids. The compromise os to improve things by bringiong some Mexicans here.
I take it that since you are so worked up about criminals, you won't mind jailing the armed border buffoons (well, Colorado!, actually) who take it uopon themselves to draw down on mothers and children with whom they are not all acquainted and ordering them to lie flat on the ground without warrant or probable cause (this amounts to a wrongful detention, if not kidnapping, and also assault and probably a bunch of other crimes and 14th Amendment violations and organized racketeering under RICO). Yeah, let's enforce the law and then there are the civil remedy statutes that should keep Barney Fife and friends bankrupt for life, even after prison.
You guys may not like this but the law also applies to you if it aplies to them. As to testimony by LAWBREAKERS, it happens all the time. Watch NYPD Blue. Three desperadoes are arrested in a multiple murder scenario (not mere border-jumping) and the cops fan out in three rooms assuring leniency to whomever breaks first and goes state's evidence. Sometimes he prosecutors get involved too.
LaRaza needs to look up the word "Tolerance" in the dictionary. Tolerance=limits. And I for one am tired of being tolerant of illegals coming it our country at will. We have reached our limits. The left has hi-jacked another word.
Rightfully so.
Too bad, really. It would get the word out "on the street".
You and those like you are sick. Warped, filled with hatred, and sick. And cowards, might I add, afraid of a little competition...
Why not? You seem to believe Mexico is a wonderful conservative Catholic country. You believe every Mexican is hard-working and Republican ----- it should be a wonderful country. You really need to see the country first hand and then think about why you want to bring it all over here.
It is a very wealthy country. It's got the second largest oil reserves in the western hemisphere, many natural resources, and competes in number of billionaires with Great Britain and Germany. They have democracy but they have a very corrupt system and culture ---and most of the people are socialists when you come down to it. The majority of Mexico's conservatives left at the time of the Mexican Revolution, what's coming over now isn't conservative.
And that's why we're bringing in so much of the welfare-criminal class of Mexico and other countries. 43% of their children are born to unwed mothers ---- and that's only going to become higher, and our prisons are filled with grown children of this kind of family. We are destroying our country with these policies.
When we had open borders with Mexico, we did not have the current level of immigration from Mexico. Maybe you're unto something.
It's called a paradox, like the Atkins' Diet. Eating fat actually helps people lose weight, while the low-fat diets are turning Americans into obese people.
If you have a well-thought-out proposition about open borders with Mexico, I am willing to discuss it.
If you're just being sarcastic, don't bother.
Yes, of course. Silly me. And BTW, I've arranged for my family of four to come stay with you and yours, if any, for an indefinite period of time, free of charge. You have no say in the matter. While cohabitating, we will use your supplies, eat your food and demand the best of all services by law.
Surely you wouldn't disagree with this arrangement.
Oh, we don't have any money, but we can paint to help you out. See you on Thursday. You'll get used to it, eventually.
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