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Boy Scout council 'devastated' by United Way cuts -program for inner-city children lost
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Posted on 08/09/2003 8:45:20 PM PDT by chance33_98

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1 posted on 08/09/2003 8:45:21 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Did they offer to restore funding in exchange for an anal sex merit badge?
2 posted on 08/09/2003 8:53:21 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: chance33_98; Jim Robinson
OKAY FREEPERS, DON'T YOU THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAVE A FREEPER FUNDRAISER FOR THE BOY SCOUTS ON THIS SITE? LET'S DO IT!
3 posted on 08/09/2003 8:54:03 PM PDT by demkicker ((I wanna kick some commie butt))
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To: chance33_98
The United Way has a great deal of power. Way too much power, IMO. That's why I quit giving to them about 20 or so years ago. I usually try to persuade others to do the same, but Hey! ... give where you feel your hearts' intentions are best fulfilled.
4 posted on 08/09/2003 8:56:44 PM PDT by templar
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To: demkicker
Lets have a FREEPER FUNDRAISER FOR THE GAY SCOUTS to leave the planet.
5 posted on 08/09/2003 9:00:50 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.)
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To: demkicker
I'm with you on that!
6 posted on 08/09/2003 9:03:20 PM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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To: chance33_98
The United Way, once again, shows it's true colors.

I quit giving to this extortion organized charity in the late sixties.

Yes, management would call us in, after pledging our pay to the UW, and then tell us we would have to sign over a percentage of wages to them. It was not voluntary, as our raise review reflected our contributions.

But, even though they have gone underground and built a new fundraising image, there are still mouses in the workplace that still fall for their agenda and extortion fundraising methods.
7 posted on 08/09/2003 9:05:02 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: chance33_98
Up the United Way and their homosexual tyrany funding practices. Give to your local Boy Scouts.
8 posted on 08/09/2003 9:06:29 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: chance33_98
Nothing like breaking the hearts of little boys in the name of Political Correctness! "United Way" needs a new name...how's about "Divided Way" or "Our way or the highway"!!!!
9 posted on 08/09/2003 9:17:34 PM PDT by Arpege92
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To: AdamSelene235
I suppose it's better to have boys sexually molested by adults on the prowl for innocence.
10 posted on 08/09/2003 9:25:19 PM PDT by nmh
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To: chance33_98
I hope that, instead of apologizing, the scouts put all over the airwaves advertisements how United way pulled all their support for inner city children because of the gay lobby.

Don't back down, don't apologize.

It should be United Way that should be nervous for their income for what they have done.

Give them hell. If I was a donator to UW, and I heard that on the radio, I would pull my donation in a minute.
11 posted on 08/09/2003 9:32:24 PM PDT by I still care
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To: chance33_98
Could someone find out the address for this BSA in financial distress so people could send them some money. They must be feeling rather demoralized with discrimination against homo perversion.
12 posted on 08/09/2003 9:40:08 PM PDT by nmh
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To: scripter
ping
13 posted on 08/09/2003 9:52:10 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband (The Homosexual Agenda never sleeps and they are making all of our lives miserable)
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To: chance33_98
I have absolutely no respect for anybody who gives so much as one dime to those scumbags at United Way. And the "I-have-to-contribute-or-my-company-will-get-mad" cowards are the worst of all.
14 posted on 08/09/2003 9:56:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: chance33_98
So is the United Way going to return the donations to those who thought that money was going to the Boy Scouts? Hmmm
15 posted on 08/09/2003 9:58:36 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: chance33_98
The United Way "earns" its revenue by being the Middle Men for various charities. Other than that, the organization is totally useless. Our charity donations are better served if we give directly to the charities, instead of the United Way. In this case, screw the United Way, and support the Scouts.
16 posted on 08/09/2003 10:05:52 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: demkicker
Let's start a conservative version of "United Way" and give our tax free gifts to organizations backing conservative causes. Why beg them to work with us?
17 posted on 08/09/2003 10:05:58 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: demkicker; All
Let's start a conservative version of "United Way" and give our tax free gifts to organizations backing conservative causes. Why beg them to work with us?
18 posted on 08/09/2003 10:06:12 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: demkicker
Count me in.
19 posted on 08/09/2003 10:10:54 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: chance33_98
Okay, let me see if I have this straight....

The BSA used a particular argument in court to say they are a private organization and can exclude those they don't believe fit thier values. They won.

Now, they want to use property and funds that those groups they exluded help pay for, and now because doors are closing thats a problem?

Not long ago someone on Free Republic said choices have consequences, or at least they used to. Seems to me those choices still have consequences. I'm only sorry that it is the kids that have to pay the price of the consequences.
20 posted on 08/09/2003 10:20:10 PM PDT by ScrtAccess
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To: AdamSelene235
>>The Boy Scouts of America won a U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2000 that upheld the group's decision to fire an openly gay scout leader. <<

I am an Eagle Scout from years back and I bristle every time I hear this. He was not fired. He was a volunteer. He was IIRC a 19 or 20 year old Assistant Scout Master, and was in college. He decided to write an article in his college newspaper about being gay. The content was about his positive gay experiences with an older lover. The article was "discovered", and he was kicked out. Cool, considering why.

A life scout openly declares his gayness. So now how do you arrange events like campouts. Two components, keeping him from being sexually interested in other boys on the outing, and keeping him from getting his @ss kicked by other boys on the outing. When you toss in the sexual component on an outing, with juveniles you are playing with fire, in this society.

Scouts are trying to avoid this issue. Liberals are trying to force their beliefs on them, but they won't protect them lawsuits if they change. The Boy Scouts cannot win witht the liberal agenda. Libs don't care. Destruction of the Boy Scouts is a positive thing, doncha know!

DK

21 posted on 08/09/2003 10:27:48 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: chance33_98
Simple solution--instead of making the check out to "United Way" just avoid the middleman (and their rake of the proceeds) and make the check payable to "Boy Scouts of America."
22 posted on 08/09/2003 10:35:46 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: I still care
Right on!

I like your tack on this!
23 posted on 08/09/2003 10:42:46 PM PDT by Kay Soze (Free Republic- a gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism & even some Republicans.)
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To: ScrtAccess
Let's say you have a son in a scout troop...both older scout leaders are gay...would you let your son do overnights with them?
24 posted on 08/09/2003 10:43:46 PM PDT by teldon30
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; chance33_98; GOPJ; I got the rope; Skybird; AD from SpringBay; ...
Support your local Boy Scout organization. Simply insert your zip code at the link and give on-line.
25 posted on 08/09/2003 10:46:14 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: teldon30
Just because they are gay does not mean they are pedophiles. Just because I like women doesn't mean the neighbors daughter is in danger if she spends the night with my daughter. I know a lesbian who works in child care, and I'd certainly trust her with my children. I really don't care about their preference as long as they know to keep their hands off the kids. And since we are on that subject, I don't trust people who are straight to keep their hands off the kids.
26 posted on 08/09/2003 10:51:57 PM PDT by ScrtAccess
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To: ScrtAccess
So if you had a daughter let's say 14...you would let her do overnight campouts with 20 year old straight males? You don't get it...any guy with common sense should feel a little uncomfortable being with young girls and especially if it is a moment that it is unsupervised...no one speaks the truth...gays like each others equipment...young or old...of course you aren't going to hear the truth come out of their mouths...they always paint a rosy picture...i'm not talking 8 year olds...i'm talking 13 and 14 year old boys here...that age where a little confusion is going on as far as sex is concerned.
27 posted on 08/09/2003 11:13:03 PM PDT by teldon30
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To: ScrtAccess
ScrtAccess Since Mar 20, 2003

Kinda late for trolling...don't you think?

28 posted on 08/09/2003 11:15:56 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: ScrtAccess
Read this troll
29 posted on 08/09/2003 11:18:34 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: chance33_98
What gets me is the outrage expressed in this thread.. What is missing is the relief that an organization that was trying to force the local Boy Scout council into a position that is contrary to the national organization isn't giving money.

I mean, if you don't like United Way's polices, then you shouldn't like United Way's money.

Another thing I don't see is outrage at the local council for giving into this, or thanks to the National board for putting a stop to it.
30 posted on 08/09/2003 11:22:28 PM PDT by kingu
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To: demkicker
ABSOLUTELY!!!
31 posted on 08/09/2003 11:30:01 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: demkicker
My $$ are there, won't be more than $40, but I'm good for that. Freepmail me.
32 posted on 08/09/2003 11:30:38 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: teldon30; ScrtAccess
Well said, teldon30. What some don't know is that percentagewise gays are more likely to molest children:
Here's some related links:
After reading the above I don't understand why anybody can support gays in the Boy Scouts.
33 posted on 08/09/2003 11:32:05 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: I got the rope
There's some additional and informative links in post 33.

Homosexual Agenda Index
Homosexual Agenda Keyword Search

34 posted on 08/09/2003 11:35:24 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: I got the rope
Make sure you're on scripter's ping list. You're good. And needed.
35 posted on 08/09/2003 11:37:06 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband (The Homosexual Agenda never sleeps and they are making all of our lives miserable)
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To: kingu
I mean, if you don't like United Way's polices, then you shouldn't like United Way's money.

Since the United Way has enlightened us with their "policies" will they will give refunds and matching refunds from companies that gave in the past year. Money that was given with the intention of assisting certain groups like the BSA. FAT CHANCE. These enlightened homo apologist are stealing money in my book...especially when they pull fast ones like this. I suspect they'll start feeling it in their pocketbook soon enough.

36 posted on 08/09/2003 11:40:50 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: chance33_98
I had the opportunity to work with my local United Way a few years ago as a volunteer fundraiser. I learned a great deal about the organization.

While there is an umbrella organization for the United Way, each local UW is independantly run and makes its own decisions in these matters. The contribution that each local United Way makes to the national organization is less than 1% of the funds they raise.

The fact that the Phillidelphia UW chooses not to contribute to the local BSA does not mean that other United Way organizations in other cities do the same.

The last time I checked, the UW in my city still supported our local BSA chapter.
37 posted on 08/09/2003 11:41:04 PM PDT by rmh47
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
"So is the United Way going to return the donations to those who thought that money was going to the Boy Scouts? Hmmm"



Nope, that's just more of the donors money they can give to Planned Parenthood.
38 posted on 08/09/2003 11:51:09 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; scripter
Thanks, Ilovemyhusband.

Scripter...please add me to the list.

39 posted on 08/10/2003 12:05:39 AM PDT by I got the rope
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"So is the United Way going to return the donations to those who thought that money was going to the Boy Scouts? Hmmm"

Nope, that's just more of the donors money they can give to Planned Parenthood.

Our local United Way doesn't support Planned Parenthood. I don't know aboout other cities. You should ask.

40 posted on 08/10/2003 12:17:47 AM PDT by rmh47
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To: ScrtAccess
First of all, consider how you'd feel about a young man wanting to lead a girl scout troop. Uncomfortable with that?

As for your argument against a homosexual/pedophile link, you'd better get past the emotions and do some homework. Simply looking at the statistics, comparing the percentage of homosexuals in the population with the percentage of homosexual child-molestors - one finds that they are forty times more likely to molest children than heterosexuals.

Of course, homosexuals avoid the percentages, and would rather focus on the raw numbers, citing the fact that more heterosexuals than homosexuals are child molestors. Remember that they are only a small percentage of the population.

Oh, and you might like this picture of Elton John:

Probably no relation to this story, though.

41 posted on 08/10/2003 12:20:17 AM PDT by watchin
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To: I got the rope
Tim!!
42 posted on 08/10/2003 12:21:58 AM PDT by watchin
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To: I got the rope
Scripter...please add me to the list.

Done.

You just missed a ping here: Older women urged to become lesbians. As some have said, the gay agenda never sleeps.

43 posted on 08/10/2003 12:25:00 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: rmh47; Graybeard58
This is for you Graybeard58...looks like you're right.

United Way and Planned Parenthood in Illinois

44 posted on 08/10/2003 12:27:12 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: AD from SpringBay; chance33_98
Up the United Way and their homosexual tyrany funding practices. Give to your local Boy Scouts.

If you can afford it, also donate to Boy Scouts in areas where funding is cut off by the United Way.

45 posted on 08/10/2003 12:29:02 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: watchin
LOL! The epitome of Trolls.
46 posted on 08/10/2003 12:30:16 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: rmh47; Graybeard58
Our local United Way doesn't support Planned Parenthood. I don't know aboout other cities. You should ask.

As far as I am concerned, we should boycott the United Way everywhere not just the areas of the country where they enforce an extreme leftist agenda.

47 posted on 08/10/2003 12:33:26 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: demkicker
bump
48 posted on 08/10/2003 5:37:39 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ; jocon307; diamond6; I got the rope; chance33_98; JOE6PAK; nmh
Looks like we've got to target this particular Boy Scout council:

Boy Scouts of America Council
504 S Concord Rd
West Chester, PA 19382

Go HERE and click View Full Report and you will be able to make a donation.
49 posted on 08/10/2003 6:05:05 AM PDT by demkicker ((I wanna kick some commie butt))
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To: I got the rope
"Read this troll "

Nothing like resorting to name calling when you disagree with an opinion, huh! See, I thought the whole idea of the forumn was to share opinions and look at other views. I kind of like people explaining to me why my opinions may be wrong and that helps me decide if they really are wrong. Name calling don't seem particularly productive though.
50 posted on 08/10/2003 7:12:45 AM PDT by ScrtAccess
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