The Liberal Takeover of American Protestanism

Crossed Fingers: How Liberals Captured the Presbyterian Church ^ | 1996 | Gary North

[Zack Nguyen]

bump.

[justshutupandtakeit]

I have been struggling with this dilemna for some time now and have been sorely tempted to leave my local Presbyterian church. If I were to do so it would be in deep trouble financially since my efforts add about 20-25% of its income.

It has served me well personnally having married me, baptisized my sons and buried my precious wife so the emotional tie is very strong. But I grieve over the denomination's national leadership.

[Zack Nguyen]

That is a tough thing for you and your family. Are your ministers Bible-believing conservatives? ARe they concerned about the denomination? Do they have a financial stake in the denomination?

[anniegetyourgun]

I understand your dilemna since several families left at the same time we did - taking 4 deacons and 3 elders in the process. Since it is the leadership that typically tithes (and significantly offers), it was a significant financial hit as well. It was also there that my children were baptized and where we were married. Tough decision, to be sure. I'll send up a prayer for yours.

[justshutupandtakeit]

We haven't had an actual minister for about three years. The interim seems to have his head screwed on relatively straight.

It is very difficult for such a small congregation to survive in Chicago and pay a living wage to a minister. When the job is adverised 80% of the applicants sent by the Presbytery are liberal women. So far I have prevented their hiring.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Thank you, it will help. I rotate off the session this year though they seem to finagle a way to get me back on, would still handle the investments. In the past bequests of stocks had just gone into a black hole no one knew what we had or what to do with them. I determined all our holdings and had them placed within a brokerage firm where they can be tracked. You wouldn't believe the difficulty in gathering the information about what the church actually had in terms of stocks. No records, no one remembered doodley, just a nightmare.

[Zack Nguyen]

When the job is adverised 80% of the applicants sent by the Presbytery are liberal women. So far I have prevented their hiring.

Wow. "Woman" and "liberal" are two big problems.

But what is more concerning is that you have to "prevent their hiring." Are others at your fellowship very liberal?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Not really but it is an ancient membership unaware of the whiles of the Left.

[anniegetyourgun]

Reminds me of the old joke about Presbyterians - that they are just (Baptists, Episcopalians, Methodists, you fill-in-the-blank) whose investments went well!

[Zack Nguyen]

bump.

[Ciexyz]

As a member of the Presbyterian Church (USA), I read this article with great interest.

That said, I've made it a point NEVER to comment on any thread on FR or elsewhere concerning gay issues. I simply add, "btt".