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Inventing a Quagmire
Opinion Journal - Best of the Web ^ | 08/11/03 | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 08/11/2003 1:59:20 PM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:05:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An article on Sunday about attacks on the American military in Iraq over the previous two days, attributed to military officials, included an erroneous account that quoted Pfc. Jose Belen of the First Armored Division. Private Belen, who is not a spokesman for the division, said that a homemade bomb exploded under a convoy on Saturday morning on the outskirts of Baghdad and killed two American soldiers and their interpreter. The American military's central command, which releases information on all American casualties in Iraq, said before the article was published that it could not confirm Private Belen's account. Later it said that no such attack had taken place and that no American soldiers were killed on Saturday.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: falsification; iraq; mediafraud; medialies; mediashenanigans; newyorktimes; nyt; schadenfreude; thenewyorktimes

1 posted on 08/11/2003 1:59:21 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Geez, it sounds like something off of Timeswatch.

Not that I don't LOVE it, mind...

2 posted on 08/11/2003 2:01:38 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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To: Pokey78
H. Clinton's charges of a vast right-wing conspiracy were of course a bunch of crapola. But there is an actual left-wing conspiracy. Everything that the Bush administration or conservatives do is met with derision and frequent hysterical viciousness by the combined forces of leftist politicians and their minions in the media and entertainment industry.

The fact is that conservatives have only recently begun to counter-attack with the same zeal as leftists. Ann Coulter, Mike Savage and a few others many go over the top, but they and a few others are among the few conservatives to realize that leftists are not "worthy opponents" but deadly threats to the continued viability of the free-enterprise, strong military U.S.

3 posted on 08/11/2003 2:21:16 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Pokey78
Inventing Quagmire=IQ=absent at NYT
4 posted on 08/11/2003 2:30:16 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Timesink; Ragtime Cowgirl; hchutch
You need to see this..
5 posted on 08/11/2003 2:31:39 PM PDT by Dog (: "And good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing 'This'll be the day Saddam dies...'")
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To: Pokey78
The news media frequently 'sexes up' it's sources by promoting privates to military officials, secretaries to government officials...whatever suits the sales pitch. It's been going on for years.

You will rarely hear that from the media, however. Not even from the NY Times, which admitted to it in writing.

6 posted on 08/11/2003 2:39:05 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; Miss Marple; Tamsey; ...

Schadenfreude

This is the New York Times Schadenfreude Ping List. Freepmail me to be added or dropped.


This is the nascent Mainstream Media Shenanigans ping list. Please freepmail me to be added or dropped.
Please note this will likely become a high-volume list.
Also feel free to ping me if you come across a thread you would think worthy of the ping list. I can't catch them all!


7 posted on 08/11/2003 2:54:03 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dog
Thanks Dog!
8 posted on 08/11/2003 2:54:21 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Pokey78

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

9 posted on 08/11/2003 3:17:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Pokey78
The cowardly low life scumbags at the times more than likely made this entire incident up. They just had to do this because someone in the military probably picked it up and was about to expose it. I can't stand these progressive pukes!
10 posted on 08/11/2003 3:56:17 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: driftless
leftists are not "worthy opponents" but deadly threats to the continued viability of the free-enterprise, strong military U.S.

Amazingly (and depressingly) that is understating the situation. They are a threat to the continued viability of liberal civilization generally, and to the preservation and expansion of human liberty generally.

11 posted on 08/11/2003 4:54:46 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Pokey78
Repeated efforts by The Times to reach Private Belen this week have been unsuccessful.

They had his email addy and cell phone number written down a piece of paper, but the dog ate it.

12 posted on 08/11/2003 4:56:21 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Pokey78
CNN's Dr. Gupta today interviews boy with arms blow off during
US military operation- agenda behind the mask of compassion.
13 posted on 08/11/2003 5:10:14 PM PDT by Helms (The Difference between Chapel Hill , Ithaca and Berkely is only Barometric)
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To: Dog; Pokey78; MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Coop; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thank you for the ping, Dog. Thank you for posting this excerpt as a separate thread, Pokey. It is important. Much of the world newsmedia follows the lead of the NY Times. Our troops deserve better.

Consider that: The New York Times is acknowledging that it published a fabricated account of American casualties in Iraq. There's no reason to doubt the Times' contention that its source, as opposed to its reporter, was behind the original fabrication, but it seems fair, based on the paper's account, to say that the Times "sexed up" its reporting by promoting a single private to "military officials" (plural) and by failing to note Centcom's doubts, much less wait for confirmation before running with the story. (The original article is no longer available free on the Times Web site, but here's a later version that appeared in the Tri-Valley Herald of Pleasanton, Calif.)

Mega-nailing the NY Times for undermining our troops, hurting morale, spreading lies - exposed.....and needing more exposure.

8 Unapologetically Pro-Coalition News Links and Articles

14 posted on 08/11/2003 6:14:20 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (4 years? Dems can't even handle 4 short months of good works and security successes in Iraq.)
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To: Pokey78; Timesink; Ragtime Cowgirl
We use our free New York Times to line the trash.

The NYT continues the tradition of CNN's Tailwind and No Gun Ri hoaxes.

Pentagon Denies Subcontracting Iraqi Hospital to Alien Doctors

A Jayson Blair/New York Times Exclusive

Part Seven of the Quagmire in Baghdad Series

15 posted on 08/11/2003 6:35:43 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DPB101
Ping
16 posted on 08/11/2003 6:39:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Dog; Ragtime Cowgirl
A sniper then sprayed the Humvees with machine-gun fire, and one soldier was struck and wounded in the neck, Belen said.

Not common tactics for snipers to "spray a humvee with machine gun fire." Another inconvenient fact Belen is attributed to have said.

17 posted on 08/11/2003 7:01:07 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: Stultis; Dog
They had his email addy and cell phone number written down a piece of paper, but the dog ate it.

Ah-hah! ;-)

18 posted on 08/11/2003 7:36:00 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: BOBTHENAILER; Dog; Ragtime Cowgirl
Snipers tend to be one shot guys.
19 posted on 08/11/2003 7:45:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Snipers tend to be one shot guys.

Exactly my point.

20 posted on 08/11/2003 7:47:46 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: PhilDragoo
Part Seven of the Quagmire in Baghdad Series

Lol! New name for the NY Times war news.

Before we went to Afghanistan, during the anthrax crisis post-911 when the postal union members were condemning the CIC for 'forcing' them to work in the unsafe conditions at post offices, I called a senior postal inspector at a clearing center targeted by the bad guys and thanked him for staying on the job. He said he and many others at the post office were Vietnam Vets and former police officers who would risk their lives for their country - who watched their fellow officers die on 9-11, were praying for the troops getting ready to go into Afghanistan.

About the postal union critics all across our news outlets - he said, "before we bomb Afghanistan, we should bomb the NY Times."

21 posted on 08/11/2003 7:58:13 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (4 years? Dems can't even handle 4 short months of good works and security successes in Iraq.)
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To: Pokey78

Digity! Digity!

22 posted on 08/11/2003 8:34:32 PM PDT by jbstrick (Behold the Power of CHEESE!)
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To: Pokey78
it's hard not to interpret this latest foul-up as reflecting an unhealthy eagerness to believe Iraq is a quagmire producing large numbers of casualties

Thanks for the post and the ping. I was watching FoxNews - O'Reilly Factor - and though they did not use the "Q" word, the Talking Points memo today did indicate just that. But reading this post, it makes me wonder what is really going on.

23 posted on 08/11/2003 8:45:21 PM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: Timesink; BOBTHENAILER; Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the ping.

With the internet and reality checks, the NY Slimes is doomed to print lies and have those lies shoved back into their lying faces from now until the Slimes disappears.

Their leftwing culture is nothing but lies, undocumented sources and wild A$$ ventures like the Yellow Cake Scam.
24 posted on 08/11/2003 10:25:02 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the ping, Ragtime Cowgirl! NYT is becoming more and more blatant, and by God's grace, more transparent in its schemes to undermine this nation. God grant our people vision and the ability to see the truth!
25 posted on 08/12/2003 8:39:27 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: TEXOKIE
Amen, TEXOKIE.

I hear Spain doesn't treat their reporters as celebrities or their 'news' as gospel. We can learn some things from Europe.

26 posted on 08/12/2003 8:47:56 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (4 years? Dems can't even handle 4 short months of good works and security successes in Iraq.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Good point! The stench of celebrity has for far too long tainted too many of our talking heads here.
27 posted on 08/12/2003 9:59:55 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
28 posted on 08/12/2003 6:11:08 PM PDT by windchime
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