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Is there a Difference?: Platforms of the Communist Party and the Democratic Party
Various ^ | August 11, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 08/11/2003 8:24:07 PM PDT by nwrep

Platform of the Communist Party USA

Communist Party Immediate Program for the Crisis

It is shameful and unacceptable that any child should live in poverty, and that anyone should go hungry, homeless, without medicine, or without a living wage in our nation of such great wealth.

Meet the Needs of Working, Unemployed and Farm Families
- Raise the minimum wage to $12 an hour.
-Unemployment insurance for all workers.
- Moratorium on farm foreclosures
- Labor law reform to remove barriers to workers who want to join a union.
- No privatization of Social Security. Increase benefits.
- Universal prescription drug coverage administered by Medicare. Universal health care system.
- Restore social safety net. Welfare reform that includes job training, supports and living wages.
- Full funding for equal, quality, bi-lingual public education. No vouchers.

Make Corporate Giants Pay
- Repeal tax cuts to the rich and corporations.
- Close corporate tax loopholes.
- Restitution to workers' pensions.
- Strong regulation of financial industry.
- Regulation and public ownership of utilities
- Prosecute corporate polluters. Public works program to clean our air, water and land
- Aid to cities and states. Federally funded infrastructure repair and social service programs

Foreign Policy for Peace and Justice
- No to war with Iraq - End military interventions
- Repeal Fast Track and NAFTA, stop Free Trade Area of the Americas(FTAA). No secrecy.
- Save Salt II Agreements, reject Star Wars and Nuclear Posture Review
-Abolish nuclear weapons
- End military interventions.
- Cut military budget and fund human needs.

Defend Democracy and Civil Rights
- End racial profiling.
- Repeal the death penalty.
- Enforce civil rights laws and affirmative action.
- Repeal USA Patriot Act.
- Legalization and protection of immigrant>rights.
- Public financing of elections. Overall election law reform including Instant Runoff Voting.
- Youth and student bill of rights. Guarantee youth's right to earn,learn and live.

Is any of the above different from what the vast majority of Democratic candidates are proposing? Has the Democratic party become the communist party?


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1 posted on 08/11/2003 8:24:08 PM PDT by nwrep
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2 posted on 08/11/2003 8:25:47 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Have they BECOME the communist party? Hello? Where you been? ;0)
3 posted on 08/11/2003 8:26:00 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: nwrep
Yes. This is news?
4 posted on 08/11/2003 8:27:10 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Are we conservatives, or are we Republicans?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
They should just call themselves Communists. That way atleast the media will stop feigning objectivity and come out and openly campaign for them.
5 posted on 08/11/2003 8:29:06 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: thoughtomator
Not to you and me, but some people are likely to be surprised at the coincidence. Never stop teaching, as Rush says. :-)
6 posted on 08/11/2003 8:30:04 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
Well, they would, but "Communism" is soooo last century - they've ummm "Progressed"
7 posted on 08/11/2003 8:30:23 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: nwrep
The only thing that seems to be missing is "advance the cause of homosexuality as being normal and acceptable to use as wedge in the continued assault on Christianity and Judaism."
8 posted on 08/11/2003 8:34:53 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: nwrep
Shocking.

Good job putting this out there so easy to see.
This needs to be passed around.
9 posted on 08/11/2003 8:36:40 PM PDT by eyespysomething (You've a loose screw. Can I tighten that for you?)
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No pun (wedge) intended. ;-P
10 posted on 08/11/2003 8:36:41 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: nwrep
Democrats have been promoting and aiding the implementation of the Communist Manifesto for decades now.

I think most Democrats are so morally and intellectually confused that they don't realize they have become an accessory to plan to destroy the free United States of America. Others believe in the Communist ideals, but are not honest enough with themselves to admit it.





11 posted on 08/11/2003 8:38:23 PM PDT by conservogirl
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Hillary admitted to being a Progressive, in book interview in Atlanta that was posted here. I bookmarked the thread for future reference.
12 posted on 08/11/2003 8:40:31 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Progressive is merely a sneaky way of saying "Socialist" or "Communist" - they can be used interchangably
13 posted on 08/11/2003 8:42:13 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Exactly. And it's such a benign, almost positive sounding word. I mean, who wants to be against "progress"? It's the "hat" that hides the "horns", imo.
14 posted on 08/11/2003 8:44:23 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I call him "Mel". He calls me "Security".)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The Progressive Caucus is a fully supported subsidiary of the DSA, that's why I bookmarked the thread. Hillary thinks that she is going to get away with running as a centrist as compared to Dean et alias, but we can't let her get away with it.
15 posted on 08/11/2003 8:44:47 PM PDT by Eva
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Exactly - but, not just benign, but also arrogant "We are forward thinkers, YOU are backwards neaderthals..."
16 posted on 08/11/2003 8:45:43 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Eva
I don't plan to let her get away with it - in Hillary's case, when she calls herself a "Progressive", she is using it as a substitute for "Marxism" - Hillary is a Marxist..
17 posted on 08/11/2003 8:46:38 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: nwrep
Looks just like the rats and the libertarians to me! Opps!
18 posted on 08/11/2003 8:47:26 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: nwrep
Is there a Difference? Yes the communists are more honest than Democrats.

If Dems are communists what does that make Republicans who help Dems achieve their goals? Useful idiots or fifth columnists?

19 posted on 08/11/2003 8:47:30 PM PDT by u-89
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Well, this is part of the reason they scare me. It's like in a horror movie when the pretty blonde takes off the mask and reveals she really looks like Iron Maiden's mascot. : )

Honestly - they know how to frame themselves. We are more WYSIWYG, but they cloak their true nature in words like that, and how they've hijacked the word "peace". They're not peaceful at all - in fact, they're dangerous (I'll just use the Teamsters heavy-handedness as one example, and the terrorist enviro-nazis as another)...but ask Joe Average which party he identifies with that word.
20 posted on 08/11/2003 8:51:12 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I call him "Mel". He calls me "Security".)
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To: nwrep
Has the Democratic party become the communist party?

The Communist Party is actually the less radical of the two. I see nothing in the Communist platform demanding reparations for slavery or the confiscation of privately owned firearms.

21 posted on 08/11/2003 8:51:25 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
True - another scary aspect of Marxism, is that they denounce "Individual Terrorism", but embrace "Group Terrorism" - they do this because Individual Terrorism does not gain the sympathy and support of the masses, whereas Group Terrorism does - a perfect example would be the part Hillary played in getting several FALN Terrorists pardoned during the waning days of the previous administration...

Marxism supports terrorism + Hillary is a Marxist = Hillary Supports Terrorism.

I like math ;0)
22 posted on 08/11/2003 8:53:55 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
And you're good at it! : )

I think people severely underestimate the danger they pose. I'm no tin-foiler (far from it), but I really do believe that. The fact that they have an ally in the press does not help.
23 posted on 08/11/2003 8:56:41 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I call him "Mel". He calls me "Security".)
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To: nwrep
Try comparing the foreign policy of the GOP which wants to spread democracy to every nation to that of Trotsky or Lenin?
24 posted on 08/11/2003 8:56:42 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Have they BECOME the communist party? Hello? Where you been? ;0)

Anyone who really wants to assess where we are should read "Witness" by Whittaker Chambers. It explains in detail how the Communist termites have been weakening the strong foundations of America since at least the 1920s. What was radical and "underground" in the 20s and 30s has become standard Democrat policy and required "education" in our universities. It all started with Roosevelt.

25 posted on 08/11/2003 9:01:28 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Burkeman1
WI really dont' know if that comparison would be valid - it would be valid if we were overthrowing democtratic governments, and installing Sandinista-style governments ;0)
26 posted on 08/11/2003 9:04:32 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: conservogirl
[Democrats have been promoting and aiding the implementation of the Communist Manifesto for decades now]

More than that - Democrats helped ~write the communist manifesto:

[The Science of Government Founded on Natural Law
Clinton Roosevelt, 1841 Dean & Trevett, N.Y.

Few Americans realize that Clinton Roosevelt, an older cousin of Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote a book published in 1841 that contained most of the New Deal and the NRA (National Recovery Act).

It also contained most of the Communist Manifesto.

This was a few years ahead of Karl Marx.]

http://members.tripod.com/~Borocar/sci-gov/

27 posted on 08/11/2003 9:04:58 PM PDT by VxH
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To: Bernard Marx
Or, they could merely pick up any book on 'Revolutionary Theory' in order to see how it will continue to play out.

"Revolution in the Revolution", by Regis DeBray should be required reading in order to cut through all the BS...
28 posted on 08/11/2003 9:07:13 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
What?
29 posted on 08/11/2003 9:08:11 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Burkeman1
Well, tell me what you are asking, and I'll see if I can clarify what you are questioning.

But for the record, the Sandinista Government was a Marxist-Leninist government, which did not allow the people they "governed" the right to control their own destiny - what WE are doing, in spreading what you refer to as 'Democracy' is different - we are providing a mechanism for the people of other nations to control their own national destiny.

I compared the two, just like you asked, and determined there really was no comparison ;0)
30 posted on 08/11/2003 9:13:10 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: nwrep; All
In a new -Time of War-..

In a new Century...

With an Enemy that is now...

Just around the Corner...

And up your Street:


.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
31 posted on 08/11/2003 9:13:33 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
No, it isn't safe. Under Marxism, which is Hillary's hidden political views, the military (if one exists) and the police are mere tools of official State control and oppression... shudder...
32 posted on 08/11/2003 9:15:46 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; conservogirl
...Vive la...

...Non-Differance..?
33 posted on 08/11/2003 9:15:53 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
...Friend of HILLARY =

...During the Vietnam War =

...our Terrorist Enemy HO CHI MINH
34 posted on 08/11/2003 9:18:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: nwrep
LOL....see my NEW TAG line as of this morning?
35 posted on 08/11/2003 9:19:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Join the Democrat party......be a COMMIE in drag.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Hillary is also associted with, and supports the World Federalist Association .The group promotes “global citizenship” and also the International Criminal Court (ICC). They want a “World Disarmament Authority” to control the weapons of the world, nuclear and even small arms; The WFA also wants an independent “peacekeeping” army for the U.N. - in addition to all that, this Marxist Organization ALSO has stated that American sovereignty will be “gradually eroded until it is no longer an issue.”
36 posted on 08/11/2003 9:21:48 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
OK
37 posted on 08/11/2003 9:27:46 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The question was rhetorical, I assume. They've been the Communist party since AT LEAST George McGovern's run for prexy in 1972. (Full disclosure: I voted for that b*st*ard, on the simple grounds that a fool could/would be less damaging than an outright criminal (his opponent)).
38 posted on 08/11/2003 9:28:56 PM PDT by SAJ (Trust government, any government, and you're digging your own grave)
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To: SAJ
Could have been rhetorical. But at least it gave me a chance to rant, and spread the truth about Hillary ;0)
39 posted on 08/11/2003 9:30:15 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Burkeman1
"Try comparing the foreign policy of the GOP which wants to spread democracy to every nation to that of Trotsky or Lenin?"

No - they want to spread Constitutional Republicanism throughout the world. I'm not surprised in the least that you would be here defending the communists and denigrating the spread of our nation's founding ideals.

40 posted on 08/11/2003 9:30:48 PM PDT by 11B3 (We cannot rest until the Left is destroyed. Then we'll have Liberty.)
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To: u-89; Joy Angela; Ragtime Cowgirl; Mia T
...To win at War...

...you must first know your Enemy.

...Since the Enemy is now Within...

...and is now running...

...for President of the United States...

...in 2004,

...what lengths will HILLARY...

...go to now ensure the end...

...of our FREEDOMS..?
41 posted on 08/11/2003 9:31:05 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
No, Hitlery is an **outright** Marxist, and therein lies the difference. Her political 'views' are being deliberately hidden from view by the filth that infest the alleged 'mainstream' media.

Apparently, it takes a village to raise a child, but I suppose we should be thankful that it takes a lot less effort, and on the part of considerably fewer than a 'village', to prevent such a would-be tyrant from gaining power.

42 posted on 08/11/2003 9:35:25 PM PDT by SAJ (Trust government, any government, and you're digging your own grave)
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To: SAJ
Pretty much what I said - I agree with you completely
43 posted on 08/11/2003 9:36:38 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: nwrep
Good Job of finding this, putting it together and posting it.

The Democrats deny it, but their platforms and their actions are all geared towards turning the US into a communist country, by redistributing the wealth, killing off the capitalist economy and assuming central control of everything and everyone "for the children".
44 posted on 08/11/2003 9:41:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: 11B3
Try reading our founders- May I suggest the Consititution and then the Federal Papers and then the Anti Federalist Papers?
45 posted on 08/11/2003 9:44:22 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Progressive is merely a sneaky way of saying "Socialist" or "Communist" - they can be used interchangably

It may be sneaky today simply because alot of the folks that dealt with and remember the Progressive Party founded by, (FDR V.P.), Henry Wallace in the late 1940's are no longer with us. According to my dearest Ms. Coulter, Wallace was an unabashed communist that left the Democrat party and ran a communist presidential campaign in 1948. It is very telling that in 1999 the Clinton administration dedicated a room @ Agriculture Department to Mr. Wallace. McGovern spoke @ the dedication and said he ran on a similar platform with the help of a young Yale Law School grad named Bill Clinton. ISYN. Treason pg 193.

46 posted on 08/11/2003 9:46:18 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; Carl/NewsMax; BKO; ...
NEVER FORGET


...While Congress was preparing to impeach him...

...WHY did CLINTON travel down to APOLOGIZE to the People of Central America for our having backed the WRONG side that was fighting against the CASTRO-Backed Communsts invading Central America in the early 1980's..?

...During the Vietnam War...

...WHY did Oxford Student Activist BILL CLINTON go to the Soviet Union to pick up his Communist funding for his Anti-U.S. Demonstrations he was organizing against us outside our London Embassy..?

...After he left office...

...WHY did BILL CLINTON announce that America won't even be around in 300 years while calling for all the nations of the World to play on the same level playing field without having an all powerfull America reigning over everyone else..?

...During the 1990's...

...WHY did President CLINTON refuse 3 Offers from the Sudan to extradite OSAMA bin LADEN to a U.S. Jail & Trial that would have prevented the Attacks on us on September 11, 2001..?

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.


NEVER FORGET
47 posted on 08/11/2003 9:49:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Kudsman
Even though I dont' remember the 40s, or earlier, I've spent years infrming myself on the various aspects of the "isms" - thanks to a commie-pinko uncle who, when I was a child, used to send me tons of books, pamphlets, and other books on Communism etc... I grew up hating Communism, in all it's various forms, with a passion...
48 posted on 08/11/2003 9:51:15 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: All; FairOpinion; conservogirl
..."FREEDOM: The Right to Say NO to Communism".. =

...Golden Sign proudly held ouside the OSCARS in support of Director ELIA KAZAN's Lifetime Achievement Award OSCAR two years ago.

...If only the now enslaved People of a once Free South Vietnam could now do the same..?

...The President has promised FREEDOM's Return to Vietnam during a BUSH Presidency as our own best self defense against future terrorist attacks.

Vote ..R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N.. Only
49 posted on 08/11/2003 9:59:41 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: nwrep
OK, time for me to get myself in trouble. The Democratic Party has many problems but it does have a more pragmatic view that communism... Democrats understand deep down that if they are going to take from the rich and give to the poor, they have to accept that some will be rich and powerful...

Concerning the military intervention... There is a tendency to take credit for victories and blame others for losses but I think liberals and conservatives act the same in that regard...

Concerning taxation, I think it is the same concept I see when the police target vehicles in speed traps knowing that a person in a nice neighborhood with a nice car are willing to pay (though grudgingly) because of this belief that is ingrained that it is the cost of having a civilized society...

The truth IMHO is that the liberals and conservatives need one another to keep the other from going to far away from reality... Liberals saved us from the fascist attitudes of Nixon and Conservatives saved us from the unrealistic pursuits of Hillary Clinton.... Though I am definitely more conservative than liberal, I think what makes this country work is the adversarial system we have that brings about a moderate way of life...

Communists and Democrats...The thing they have in common is that the ideas are wonderful but in reality...

Conservatives and fascism....
Conservatives give as much information to society and government in the hope that the right decisions will be made and the right policies will be undertaken....Fascists....Everything at gunpoint...no discussion....

50 posted on 08/11/2003 10:08:04 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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