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Police want pot crusader barred from stations
edmontoncanada.com ^ | 8.12.03 | Derrick Penner

Posted on 08/12/2003 12:47:25 PM PDT by freepatriot32

Shaughn Butts, The Journal / Followers look on as Marc Emery smokes up Sunday.
 

EDMONTON - Wearing a conservative blue suit, B.C. marijuana activist Marc Emery lit up a water pipe in front of Edmonton police headquarters Sunday afternoon and was promptly arrested.

The leader of the B.C. Marijuana Party contends poss ession laws no longer exist because of recent Ontario court decisions.

Before lighting up, Emery said the fact that people can be political and take action makes Canada "the greatest place on Earth."

Two Edmonton police constables stepped into the crowd and led Emery inside, to a chorus

of boos and jeers from about three dozen supporters who decried the arrest as unconstitutional.

Federal Crown prosecutors have told Edmonton police that laws prohibiting marijuana possession are still in effect, said Insp. Dick Shantz. Officers charged Emery with a single count of pot possession.

Police also tried to stop Emery's campaign by asking that a Canadawide ban preventing him from going to police stations unless he has a legitimate complaint be made one condition of his release.

"We're getting tired of dealing with him," Shantz said. "He's tying up our manpower with his illegal crusade and we're not going to put up with it."

Others were also smoking marijuana but Shantz said no one else was arrested because police did not have the manpower.

Emery, publisher of the magazine Cannabis Culture, was arrested in Calgary on Saturday.

He was earlier arrested in Winnipeg, Regina, Moncton, N.B., and St. John's, Nfld. He was not arrested at stops this summer in Toronto and Charolettetown, P.E.I.

dpenner@thejournal.canwest.com



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 08/12/2003 12:47:25 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: *Wod_list; jmc813

ping

2 posted on 08/12/2003 12:50:11 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Heaven is weary, of the hollow words Which States and Kingdoms utter when they talk of justice)
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To: freepatriot32
"We're getting tired of dealing with him," Shantz said. "He's tying up our manpower with his illegal crusade and we're not going to put up with it."

Higher penalties for repeat offenders? Leave him in jail longer to cool his heals.

3 posted on 08/12/2003 1:02:06 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
The pot laws in Canada lapsed.

More likely he'll be suing all the cops that touched him.
4 posted on 08/12/2003 1:05:47 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
5 posted on 08/12/2003 1:06:27 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Soros is touring again?
6 posted on 08/12/2003 1:08:59 PM PDT by xrp
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To: eno_
...And winning.
7 posted on 08/12/2003 1:10:20 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: jmc813
cool move. Knowing there is no effective pot laws up north.
8 posted on 08/12/2003 1:11:33 PM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: freepatriot32
what time is it????
9 posted on 08/12/2003 1:21:33 PM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: freepatriot32
"We're getting tired of dealing with him," Shantz said.

So stop arresting him.

10 posted on 08/12/2003 1:23:12 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: vin-one
You missed by one minute!
11 posted on 08/12/2003 1:45:13 PM PDT by jayef
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To: vin-one
what time is it????

It's Howdy Doobie time?

12 posted on 08/12/2003 2:42:33 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Hey dude, did you hear that Ozzie Osborn says that pot smoking led his son Jack to try harder drugs?
13 posted on 08/12/2003 2:58:34 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
So? I know plenty of pot smokers that have never tried anything harder.

Anecdotal evidence proves squat.
14 posted on 08/12/2003 3:02:23 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
So now you know more about drug use than Ozzie, who says that pot use led his son jack to try harder drugs?
15 posted on 08/12/2003 3:08:14 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
Apparently the whole concept of anecdotal evidence went over your head.

I don't need to know more about drug use than Ozzie.
16 posted on 08/12/2003 3:12:30 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/Healthology/HS_marijuana_depression021122.html


Marijuana Linked to Schizophrenia, Depression

By Adam Marcus
ABC NEWS

Nov. 22 — As many as one in seven cases of schizophrenia could be prevented by eradicating marijuana.

That's the contention of a new study of Swedish soldiers that found smoking pot increases the risk of the psychiatric disorder by about 30 percent.

The Swedish study is one of three reports in this week's British Medical Journal linking marijuana to emotional problems, including depression and anxiety, as well as schizophrenia.

Some scientists believe marijuana doesn't cause psychiatric illness. Rather, they argue, people smoke it as a way to self-medicate. However, the authors of the Swedish study say their evidence suggests that now seems unlikely.

"It's not as good an explanation than the possibility that cannabis itself causes schizophrenia," says Dr. Stanley Zammit, a psychiatrist at the University of Wales College of Medicine in Cardiff and lead author of the new paper.

Zammit and his colleagues compared schizophrenia rates and marijuana use among more than 50,000 Swedish conscripts who participated in a 1969-1970 survey. Of those, 362, or about 0.7 percent, had been hospitalized with the disorder by 1996.

Of the 11 percent of the entire group that admitted ever trying marijuana, 73, or 1.4 percent, went on to be hospitalized for schizophrenia. The odds of having the disease grew as pot use climbed, reaching nearly a sevenfold increase in the men who used it 50 times or more but tried no other illegal drugs, the study says.

The effect was strongest among soldiers who developed schizophrenia within five years of entering the military. It held after the researchers accounted for use of alcohol and other drugs.

"You would expect that if there was a common reason for using substances, that would have eliminated" the influence of marijuana, Zammit says.

The second study in the British Medical Journal, of 759 New Zealanders, found that those who started smoking pot by the time they were 15 years old had quadruple the risk of non-users of being diagnosed by age 26 with schizophrenia and related disorders. That risk didn't hold for people who began taking the drug at age 18 or later. The study also found that 10 percent of the young smokers went on to develop psychosis, compared with 3 percent of the rest of the study group.

Louise Arseneault, a psychiatrist at King's College, London, and a co-author of the study, says marijuana use "predisposes" children to schizophrenia later in life.

"It's part of a complex group of causes. You don't need to smoke cannabis to have schizophrenia," Arseneault says. "A lot of people have it who didn't smoke, and a lot smoke but don't get it."

In the third study, scientists in Australia found that teens who smoked marijuana at least once a week were twice as likely as less frequent users to suffer depression or anxiety over the next seven years. Girls who used the drug every day had between five and six times the rate of these conditions as non-users.

The study also found that teens with emotional problems at the beginning of the study weren't more likely to take up marijuana in the future -- suggesting that self-medication wasn't a factor.

Michael Lynskey, a psychiatrist at Washington University in St. Louis and a co-author of the Australian study, says he "wouldn't want to make a definitive statement either way" about whether marijuana causes psychosis or depression. Even a doubling of the risk of depression is considered a relatively small increase, he says. So the effect of marijuana is probably modest.

However, research shows that people who take THC, the active ingredient in pot, to control nausea are more prone to depression, Lynskey says. He considers that "strong evidence" that marijuana can play a role in depression.



17 posted on 08/12/2003 3:18:22 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
So what? All that does is prove you're a hypocrite for not wanting to criminalize alcohol and cigarettes.

Alcohol is legal, yet there are many harmful side effects. Co-Ocurring Alcohol Use Disorder and Schizophrenia

Cigarettes are legal, and we all know about what they can do to you.

Also, there is research that contradicts the assertion that marijuana is harmful to you. Neither side has won the debate yet. However, something interesting to read here: Cannabis and tobacco: responding to claims made by the British Lung Foundation and related news coverage
18 posted on 08/12/2003 3:26:51 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
Will legalizing pot solve any of the problems caused by alcohol? If not why are they relevant?
19 posted on 08/12/2003 3:28:29 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
Because they prove your hypocritical stance that alcohol can remain legal, even with harmful side effects, yet marijuana can't become legal.

I never said legalizing pot will solve those problems with alcohol. However, just off the top of my head, legalizing drugs will reduce the Federal Budget by billions, get rid of drug dealers since they won't be able to make money off illegal drugs, free up jail space for real criminals, and allow cops to spend time going after those real criminals.
20 posted on 08/12/2003 3:30:54 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: presidio9; Quick1
So now you know more about drug use than Ozzie

I do, I know smoking a couple doobs is O.K., what Ozzie did is not O.K.!

21 posted on 08/12/2003 3:31:17 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: Quick1
Also, there is research that contradicts the assertion that marijuana is harmful to you. Neither side has won the debate yet.

True, although I think that as pot becomes more accepted, more research will be forthcoming and we're going to find that sucking hot gas derived from a burning weed (tobacco, marijuana, whatever) into your lungs is not healthful.

22 posted on 08/12/2003 3:31:35 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Quick1
Because they prove your hypocritical stance that alcohol can remain legal, even with harmful side effects, yet marijuana can't become legal.

I voiced no opinion whatsoever about alcohol. The drugs have distorted your ability to seperate fantasy from reality.

23 posted on 08/12/2003 3:33:36 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: randog
I'd like to know more about eating it, though. I haven't had the joy of trying them, but I've heard pot brownies can be pretty good.

I'm sure that inhaling smoke isn't exactly healthy for you. But for someone like myself, who smokes up maybe once a month at most, how harmful is that?
24 posted on 08/12/2003 3:33:57 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: StriperSniper
what Ozzie did is not O.K.!

So drugs are potentially bad for you then?

25 posted on 08/12/2003 3:34:28 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: vin-one
what time is it????

It's 4:20, silly!

26 posted on 08/12/2003 3:34:45 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: presidio9
Ok, then I'll take this moment to ask you what your stance is on alcohol. I simply assumed that you were like the other 99% of Americans who would like alcohol to remain legal.

I guess that's what I get for assuming.
27 posted on 08/12/2003 3:35:42 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: presidio9
So drugs are potentially bad for you then?

Absolutely, so is an all ice cream diet.

28 posted on 08/12/2003 3:36:10 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Make South Korea an island)
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To: presidio9
Yes, all drugs can be potentially bad for you. Moderation in all things. Taking 100 Aspirin probably isn't very good for you, either (unless you have one hell of a hangover).
29 posted on 08/12/2003 3:36:39 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
...for someone like myself, who smokes up maybe once a month at most, how harmful is that?

Dunno, hence the need for more research. Let's hope, for your sake, that the "second-hand smoke" cabal doesn't get ahold of the research grant......;^)

30 posted on 08/12/2003 3:36:59 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Quick1
Ok, then I'll take this moment to ask you what your stance is on alcohol. I simply assumed that you were like the other 99% of Americans who would like alcohol to remain legal.

For the purposes of this thread, I have no opinion on the legality of alcohol. I will, however, point out that alcohol use fell by 50% during Prohibition.

31 posted on 08/12/2003 3:39:58 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
...And crime rose incredibly.

mmm, organised crime... *droool*

/Homer Simpson
32 posted on 08/12/2003 3:43:53 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
...And crime rose incredibly.

Only in some urban areas. Prohibition ended not due to outrage over organized crime, but because a majority of voters wanted to drink and were fed up with the law. This is not the case with marijuana.

33 posted on 08/12/2003 3:47:19 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
This is not the case with marijuana.

I wouldn't be so sure. There are lots of people who like to smoke, and even more people who feel that the law is infringing on our right to do so. It's not exactly an overwhelming majority, but more and more people are becoming anti-War on Some Drugs.
34 posted on 08/12/2003 3:49:55 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
Sure, and more and more people are pro-war on drugs too. Contrary to your naive brush-offs, I have a lot of first hand drug addicts. All of them started with pot. Many can not stand alcohol.
35 posted on 08/12/2003 3:51:49 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
I bet all of them breathed oxygen and drank water before trying harder drugs, too.

I'll repeat my example from above: I know plenty of pot smokers who have never tried or needed to try anything harder.

Is pot the reason for their switching to harder drugs, or is it just because they had addictive personalities and were screwed up in the first place? My guess is the latter.

I'll repeat my example from above: I know plenty of pot smokers who have never tried or needed to try anything harder.
36 posted on 08/12/2003 3:56:05 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
Oops. Omit the last sentence.
37 posted on 08/12/2003 3:56:37 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: Quick1
I'll repeat my example from above: I know plenty of pot smokers who have never tried or needed to try anything harder.

Exceptions do not make the rule. Pot is not a good thing.

38 posted on 08/12/2003 4:05:06 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
Exceptions do not make the rule.

Does that apply to the addicts you know then, as well?
39 posted on 08/12/2003 4:07:00 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: presidio9
Exceptions do not make the rule.

Well, if you take the number of people who do smoke and have smoked pot, and compare that number to the number of people who are addicted to hard drugs, it would seem that the pot-smokers who become hard-drug addicts are the exception, not the rule.

40 posted on 08/12/2003 4:14:24 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Quick1
Entirely different. We are trying to prevent any addictions. You are trying to defend drug use. The two are not morally equivalent.
41 posted on 08/12/2003 4:14:31 PM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
You're backtracking into a moral debate now?

You gave anecdotal evidence about people you know that started with pot. I countered. Simple as that.
42 posted on 08/12/2003 4:20:21 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: vin-one
Knowing there is no effective pot laws up north.

And there's the real reason the cops are ticked at Mr. Emery. The courts have ruled that the possession law is null and void, and he is publicizing that fact.

43 posted on 08/12/2003 6:04:01 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: presidio9
Marijuana Linked to Schizophrenia, Depression

But mostly it's linked to stupidity.

44 posted on 08/12/2003 6:07:20 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: Wolfie
And there's the real reason the cops are ticked at Mr. Emery. The courts have ruled that the possession law is null and void, and he is publicizing that fact.

Next he'll take up buggering his boyfriend on the sidewalk in front of police stations while he tokes a fat spliff.

Dopers have a lot of class. They just reek of it.

45 posted on 08/12/2003 6:09:33 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: Kevin Curry
But mostly it's linked to stupidity.

You are right. It is linked to a major stupidity called the "War on Drugs" or WOD for short. Far more innocent people have been hurt by WOD LEO funbles than have been hurt by Pot.

46 posted on 08/12/2003 6:15:34 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Kevin Curry
There is no law against possession. Mr. Emery is taking it to the cops, and boy are they squealing (no pun intended). Sorry, Kev, but some people insist on exercising their rights. I'm sure you think the world would be a better place if Rosa Parks had just sat in back of the damn bus like everybody else.
47 posted on 08/12/2003 6:18:28 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: presidio9; Quick1
...And crime rose incredibly.

Only in some urban areas...

Hmmmmm....... No.

The shooting wars took place in urban areas, but the 'organized' part of the crime was extremely widespread. Bootleg booze was made in rural areas - many of them here in Iowa - and then shipped into Chicago for distribution.

Now think about this: Wintertime in Iowa. How hard is it to figure out which farms had heavy trucks come make pickups in the night with a few inches of fresh-fallen snow on the ground? Everyone knew who was involved, and from the sherrif down to the lowest peon in law enforcement everyone got their cut.

48 posted on 08/12/2003 7:33:01 PM PDT by Gianni
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To: presidio9
GOD MADE HERB
GOD SAW THAT HERB WAS GOOD
GOD GAVE HERB TO MAN

Genesis 1:11
Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so.

Genesis 1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:29
And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.
49 posted on 08/12/2003 10:34:24 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: presidio9
Hey dude, did you hear that Ozzie Osborn says that pot smoking led his son Jack to try harder drugs?

Yes I did hear that Ozzie Osborne says that pot smoking led his son Jack to try harder drugs.

50 posted on 08/13/2003 6:34:05 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Ozzy Osborne says that pot leads to harder drugs.)
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