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1 posted on 08/13/2003 5:51:32 AM PDT by yonif
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If defensive measures, such as building a fence, and offensive measures, such as taking out terrorist positions, are not legitimate, how exactly do they expect Israel to protect itself? Or, to put it even more bluntly: By decrying Israel's attempts to defend itself, the State Department is figuratively hanging up a sign at the entrance to the Middle East that reads, "Jews are fair game."

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2 posted on 08/13/2003 5:52:17 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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It IS an act of moral cowardice. Nevertheless Israel does not need Colon Bowell's or Phil Reeker's (apopros last name there!) permission to defend herself from her adversaries. As a sovereign state, all her timid leaders need to do is summon up the resolve to act.
3 posted on 08/13/2003 5:55:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Reeker and Powell just reflect the overall weakness and cowardice of the Bush Administration. They are unwilling to call a spade a spade (Islam is a religion of peace nonsense). If a country is too cowardly to even specify its enemy (radical Islam), how can it be expected to win a war?
5 posted on 08/13/2003 7:20:03 AM PDT by LarryM
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More and more I think Israel's "restraint" is the CAUSE of the violence. Arabs have no respect for restraint, they think it's weakness. The only way to get anything through their heads is to whip them till their noses bleed buttermilk (as Florence King would say).

I wish Israel would turn on the Arab world with the rage of a wounded animal and just lash out in a manner that would stun them. Otherwise these jackals will keep yipping and nipping at their heels until they exhaust them and bring them down. Then they'll kill Israel, which is the goal and always has been.

Come on, Israel.... FIGHT!! Unilaterally!! Pre-emptively!! Aggressively!! Fight or they will kill you all.

6 posted on 08/13/2003 7:29:25 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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Telling a rape victim to stop screaming during the rape as all parties must seek peace is not moral revelance, it is a clear lack of morals in the first place.
9 posted on 08/13/2003 9:46:37 AM PDT by American in Israel (It is clearly a cowards stand, this happenstance.)
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State Department Spokesman Richard Boucher explains why blowing up Israelis different than blowing up Americans

DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

Richard Boucher, Spokesman

Washington, DC; September 27, 2001

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QUESTION: To what extent does this campaign -- as you constantly review your Middle East policy, what -- how much influence does this campaign against terrorism have in that? What's the input? How does it weigh in here? See what I mean?

MR. BOUCHER: No, I don't.

QUESTION: It's obviously a factor --

MR. BOUCHER: We have talked about this on and off over the last few days. We recognize that there is an influence. Some have said it affects the atmosphere, the Palestinian/Israeli issues affect the atmosphere of cooperation. But, essentially, there are, on some planes, two different things. One is that there are violent people trying to destroy societies, ours, many others in the world. The world recognizes that and we are going to stop those people.

On the other hand, there are issues and violence and political issues that need to be resolved in the Middle East, Israelis and Palestinians. But we all recognize that the path to solve those is through negotiation and that we have devoted enormous efforts to getting back to that path of negotiation.

And we have called on the parties to do everything they can, particularly in the present circumstance, to make that possible.

I guess that's about as close as I can come to the kind of sophisticated analysis I'm sure you will want to do on your own. But they are clearly issues that are different, not only in geography but also, to some extent, in their nature.

13 posted on 08/13/2003 1:19:45 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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