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FOX-Sleaze vs. FOX-News : Conservatives Must Decide!
CFAA ^ | 8/13/03 | Timothy Chichester

Posted on 08/13/2003 2:25:59 PM PDT by Polycarp

 


PRESS RELEASE:     8/13/03, 4:16 PM

SUBJECT:               FOX-Sleaze vs. FOX-News : Conservatives Must Decide!

The Catholic Family Association of America (CFAA) issued a call to moral conservatives to fight the scheduled mainstreaming of pornography by Fox Broadcasting by hitting Rupert Murdoch where they have the most influence, the ad revenues of FOX-News.

In an article called The Music Man, appearing on the CFAA web site, president Timothy A. Chichester denounced the pending introduction of "Skin", a show designed to mainstream pornography under the guise of a Romeo and Juliet romance between a "good" pornographer's daughter and a "bad" LA district attorney's son.

Chichester blasted Jim Leonard, creator and executive producer of the program, who boasted that "We have a working porn director who is a technical adviser for us", for attempting to mainstream the ideas that the porn industry is a legitimate business and the walking cess-pool sludge who run it are really not just plain folk, but better than those that oppose them.

Citing Fox owner Murdoch as one who also thinks we really need a show that "glorifies and promotes the smut industry that has devastated more lives than we can ever imagine, while it undermines the very concept of moral self-control," the article goes on to observe: "Murdoch happily rakes in the cash from both sides of the cultural divide. In one hand he holds FOX-Sleaze and the other FOX-News. The first caters to the social liberals based on the proposition that the deeper the TV dumpster the bigger the bottom-feeder bucks to be hauled up. FOX-News caters to those who seek refuge from the nauseating reek of the pit. Wow, what a market straddle! What a two-headed money machine."

CFAA is asking that viewers let Murdoch know what they think of his attempts to use their minds "as his personal sewerage filtration plant" by turning off FOX-News for three days a week until Murdoch cancels "Skin".

 

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Timothy Chichester
President
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PO Box 165
Austerlitz, NY 12017
(518)392-2886

Dr. Brian J. Kopp
Vice-President
Catholic Family Association of America
Johnstown, PA 15904
814-266-6124


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Monday, August 11, 2003


The Music Man
FOX-Sleaze vs. FOX-News : Conservatives Must Decide!

The much touted new Fox network drama "Skin" is a show designed to mainstream pornography under the guise of a Romeo and Juliet romance between a "good" pornographer's daughter and a "bad" LA district attorney's son.


Does Jim Leonard, creator and executive producer of this cultural assault, really think that promoting pornography to his fifteen year-old daughter and thirteen year-old son is in their best interest? Apparently so. It makes one think of the Music Man. Only Leonard, our high-stepping trombone player, is leading the parade into the cultural slime that rots the heart and makes civility impossible. "We have a working porn director who is a technical adviser for us" boasted Leonard to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Perhaps he will "do" a cameo with his daughter on screen, as a way of further desensitizing those still shielded by the moral restraints embedded in the nation's Christian roots; or maybe even one with his son, working to free us of several of our ugly little religious taboos in a single "adult moment". After all, for Mr. Leonard, is that not the idea? To be on the leading edge of societal engineering is one thing, but to be paid for it, ah, that is quite something else. It ought to more than cover his children's bills for sexually transmitted diseases, abortions, abuse and psychiatrists as they follow the path pioneered by good old dad.


Rupert Murdoch, the grand poobah of Fox, also must think we really need a show that glorifies and promotes the smut industry that has devastated more lives than we can ever imagine, while it undermines the very concept of moral self-control. Murdoch happily rakes the cash in from both sides of the cultural divide. In one hand he holds FOX-Sleaze and the other FOX-News. The first caters to the social liberals based on the proposition that the deeper the TV dumpster the bigger the bottom-feeder bucks to be hauled up. FOX-News caters to those who seek refuge from the nauseating reek of the pit. Wow, what a market straddle! What a two-headed money machine.


But Murdoch has forgotten Von Clauswitz' treatise On War and the nature of vulnerability. Decent folk who constitute the bulk of FOX-News viewers will have no direct influence over FOX-Sleaze. But they do have significant influence over FOX-News.


I propose that starting August 18th, those who watch FOX-News turn OFF the network for three full days a week until Murdoch cancels "Skin", including the two weeks following the cancellation to seal the deal.


The intent is to soak up ad revenue well beyond that which FOX-Sleaze will generate from "Skin". The viewers will survive the disconnect. They will exert their influence on Rupert Murdoch's empire of sleaze and no damage will come to their favorite conservative programs. Conservative viewers have to recognize that as conservative as the shows may be, they are, as Limbaugh points out, entertainment first. If they will not deny themselves their conservative feel-good shows for a few days, they are not as tough as they think. What they should keep in mind is that while depriving FOX-News of revenue, the mega-buck celebrities will suffer nothing but the satisfying revelation that many of their viewers actually do put principle before gain. The target is Murdoch; the revenue is his.


The second part is to let Murdoch know what they think of his repeated attempts to use their minds as his personal sewerage filtration plant. Ideally, they will tell him they want not just "Skin" axed, but also the rest of the FOX-Sleaze sewer roto-rootered.

Timothy A. Chichester
President


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1 posted on 08/13/2003 2:25:59 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
Ping. (As usual, if you would like to be added to or removed from my "conservative Catholics" ping list, just send me a FReepmail. Please realize that some of my "ping" posts are long.)
2 posted on 08/13/2003 2:27:33 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
I don't watch Fox TV. They're nothing but sleaze and "reality" TV shows. I've had it with reality TV shows.
3 posted on 08/13/2003 2:29:53 PM PDT by al_c
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To: al_c
I do like Bernie Mac and Malcolm in the Middle. Most Fox shows aren't worth watching, however.
4 posted on 08/13/2003 2:37:44 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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To: al_c
I don't watch Fox TV. They're nothing but sleaze and "reality" TV shows.

That is the point!

Conservatives are disgusted by Fox TV yet watch Fox News more than any other news outlet.

If those same conservatives would voluntarily turn off Fox News a couple days per week, maybe the conservative base of Fox News viewers could bring pressure to bear on Murdock to clean up the other half of his empire, Fox TV.

Fox TV does not reflect the values of the average viwer of Fox News. This is a chance to influence that programming.

5 posted on 08/13/2003 2:39:52 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
Sorry, I wont give up king of the hill and the simpsons.
6 posted on 08/13/2003 2:41:54 PM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: Polycarp
I'm a big fan of the Romeo and Juliet story, especially since the movie version with Claire Danes came out. I'm rather interested in what Fox is going to do with the story. I'll watch this version if it comes out.
7 posted on 08/13/2003 2:43:14 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: hoosierboy; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Sorry, I wont give up king of the hill and the simpsons.

You degenerate pevert!

8 posted on 08/13/2003 2:44:20 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; xflisa; lainde; ..
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

9 posted on 08/13/2003 2:44:29 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: Polycarp
I don't see how not watching FOXNEWS is going to influence anything regarding FOX TV.

If lots of folks just don't watch the show in question, it will die. I don't believe I've ever seen anything on regular FOX except NFL Football and King of The Hill when it was a new show.

11 posted on 08/13/2003 2:48:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (Get a dog! He'll change your life!)
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To: Polycarp
Oh good, so you guys want to destroy FOXNews so all we'll end up with is CNN. Yeah, that'll work.
12 posted on 08/13/2003 2:49:32 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Polycarp
Conservatives are disgusted by Fox TV yet watch Fox News more than any other news outlet.

It's called smart diversification. Fox News taps into right-wing markets, Fox TV gets younger, apolitical viewers. More eyeballs for the marketers = more $$$ for Murdoch.

Fox News is just entertainment. Wasn't Geraldo the tip-off?
13 posted on 08/13/2003 2:50:09 PM PDT by Belial
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To: hgro
And your comment is relevant to this thread about sleaze programming on Fox TV...how?!?
14 posted on 08/13/2003 2:50:09 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: sinkspur
I don't see how not watching FOXNEWS is going to influence anything regarding FOX TV.

If Fox News knows they are losing viewership due to sleaze programming within their corporate structure at Fox TV, how can it not?

15 posted on 08/13/2003 2:51:31 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
Murdoch hasn't forgotten anything. People misunderstand why Fox News is conservative. While Murdoch is conservative in business he is purely profit oriented. It's not a reflection of Murdoch's views, it's capturing a market hole he saw. Fox the entertainment channel is sleazy because there's good market in that. If Murdoch saw good numbers in clean entertainment he'd be going for it, if suddenly the other news channels went right he'd head left with his. Murdoch doesn't mix business and philosophy.
16 posted on 08/13/2003 2:52:19 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: McGavin999
so you guys want to destroy FOXNews

Hardly! But its not a bad idea to send a message to Fox News that their conservative base is disgusted by their corporate promotion of the pornography culture with this new program!

17 posted on 08/13/2003 2:53:07 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
The much touted new Fox network drama "Skin" is a show designed to mainstream pornography under the guise of a Romeo and Juliet romance between a "good" pornographer's daughter and a "bad" LA district attorney's son.

Thanks for the heads up, sounds like an interesting new show. Fox has come out with a couple of good dramas in the last several years. I'm waiting for the return of 'The Shield'.
18 posted on 08/13/2003 2:53:36 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: Polycarp
Somehow, I don't think Fox News and the regular FOX network are programmed by the same people. They don't even draw the same ratings revenues, as far as I know.

Boycotting the non-cable network, I don't have a problem with (I don't watch it anyway), but since Fox Sports Net (yet another member of the FOX network family) has the contract for about half of the Cards games, I'm afraid I'll just have to write a letter.
19 posted on 08/13/2003 2:53:49 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Polycarp
When the POPE openly apologizes to all of the victims of sexual predator priests and bishops over the years, and removes ALL of these criminals from the ranks of the Church, then I'll switch off Fox News. Until then, Catholics shouldn't be throwing rocks in their own glass houses.
20 posted on 08/13/2003 2:55:34 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: McGavin999
From our article accompanying the Press Release:

FOX-News caters to those who seek refuge from the nauseating reek of the pit. Wow, what a market straddle! What a two-headed money machine.

But Murdoch has forgotten Von Clauswitz' treatise On War and the nature of vulnerability. Decent folk who constitute the bulk of FOX-News viewers will have no direct influence over FOX-Sleaze. But they do have significant influence over FOX-News.

...turn OFF the network for three full days a week until Murdoch cancels "Skin", including the two weeks following the cancellation to seal the deal.

The intent is to soak up ad revenue well beyond that which FOX-Sleaze will generate from "Skin". The viewers will survive the disconnect. They will exert their influence on Rupert Murdoch's empire of sleaze and no damage will come to their favorite conservative programs. ...If they will not deny themselves their conservative feel-good shows for a few days, they are not as tough as they think. What they should keep in mind is that while depriving FOX-News of revenue, the mega-buck celebrities will suffer nothing but the satisfying revelation that many of their viewers actually do put principle before gain. The target is Murdoch; the revenue is his.

21 posted on 08/13/2003 2:57:04 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: medscribe
And your comment is relevant to this thread about sleaze programming on Fox TV...how?!?
22 posted on 08/13/2003 2:58:18 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: ianincali
While its nice for him to have a cable news network, he makes 20 times the money on broadcast.

Prove it.

25 posted on 08/13/2003 3:07:45 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
The CFAA should start cleaning up its OWN house before wagging the finger at others.
26 posted on 08/13/2003 3:09:14 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: al_c
You know what, these people are dead right. Murdoch is totally governing his empire around 'balanced'.

What Murdoch saw in the big 3 was 3 companies selling to the same market segment, the left. He came along, took the right and some of the middle, leaving 3 companies to fight for the core left.

Most conservatives don't consume the amount of TV that lefties do, demographically speaking.

Fox provides news to the righties, and mindless drivel to the left. Murdoch is a marketing genius.
28 posted on 08/13/2003 3:12:09 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: medscribe
This is NOT a Catholic issue, you bigoted schmuck. This elevation of the porn industry is an issue for all conservatives.
29 posted on 08/13/2003 3:12:40 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
How much longer will network television even exist? With TIVO technology, etc, will there be a need for networks in 20 years?
30 posted on 08/13/2003 3:14:18 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: al_c
I've had it with reality TV shows.

Me too. I never watched them to start with. Add Homo comedy and other sex comedy stuff to the list as well. Not much TV I watch anymore, I guess I'm gettin' old.

31 posted on 08/13/2003 3:14:37 PM PDT by templar
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To: ianincali
Prove it! Prove he doesn't.

I'm sure there are FReepers here who can and will weigh in on this to settle this fairly. In the meantime, I'll see if I can find the relevant numbers.

If you think more folks watch Fox TV sleaze programming than Hannity and O'Reilly, I think you are very mistaken.

32 posted on 08/13/2003 3:15:36 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
Wow! Skins sounds like a really good show. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. RAWR!
33 posted on 08/13/2003 3:16:11 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: Polycarp
FOX Network is a lot of entertainment stuff and I generally tune it out. FOX NEWS however also needs to curb it's tabloid television. The whole Kobe Bryant and Scott Peterson stuff has to go. Also it would be a good start if they got rid of Rita Cosby, she is terrible and a magnet for some of the worst tabloid garbage out there.
34 posted on 08/13/2003 3:16:14 PM PDT by miloklancy
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To: Polycarp
Nope, not going to do it. I lived too long without FOX to do ANYTHING that will endanger it or give a victory to CNN. They are two different things. Boycott FOX broadcast, but don't take it out on the good people at FOXNews.
36 posted on 08/13/2003 3:17:52 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: RinaseaofDs
He didn't head right with Fox the entertainment network, if anything he went left. He looked at the big three and saw that all the risk had gone out of broadcast TV, nobody was striking out for new territory, and programs were falling well within FCC guidelines for things like adult situations and language. Seeing room to grow he siezed it, started off with the Tracy Ulman Show which featured a little cartoon about an obese alcoholic father who isn't respected by his kids and regularly tries to kill one of them and never looked back (that cartoon of course later went on it's own and is still on the air, The Simpsons that is).

Married with Children
21 Jump Street
Stealing Arron Spelling (the man that perfected jiggle TV)

Fox has been risque and pushing the envelope on what you could do on broadcast TV from the start. It's a very amoral channel.
37 posted on 08/13/2003 3:19:36 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: Polycarp
The press release you posted was from the CATHOLIC Family Association of America. I am merely pointing out that this group should go after the perverts in the Holy See, the same perverts who have been sexually abusing good CATHOLIC boys and girls for God knows how long, FIRST rather than pick on a commercial entity like FOX. If you don't like what's on TV, turn the damned thing off. You can't exactly do the same thing to a parish priest. Hypocrisy doesn't exactly look well on religious robes, whether it is at the LA diocese or at the Vatican.
39 posted on 08/13/2003 3:21:37 PM PDT by medscribe
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To: GSWarrior
20 years ago people asked the exact same question, except it was VCRs not TIVO, the question was asked again with cable. For the most part broadcast gets better ratings than non-broadcast, while they might need to alter what they do and how they do it they sure aren't going away any time soon.
40 posted on 08/13/2003 3:21:53 PM PDT by discostu (the train that won't stop going, no way to slow down)
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To: Tempest
Now... if Fox News started a porn channel starring the newsbabes... FoxBabes maybe?

I'd pay good money for a Heather Nauert/ED Hill pay-per-view.


41 posted on 08/13/2003 3:22:18 PM PDT by Terabitten (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It)
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To: Polycarp
I think Rupert Murdoch is a creepy, dirty old man.
42 posted on 08/13/2003 3:25:31 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
On/Off button, Channel changer.

Use them.

Voluminously.

They speak loudly.

If people don't watch, Fox won't keep the program on. Very simple.

I refuse to accept the notion of full-blown censorship, because while today, we may want their show censored, tomorrow, it will be something more important of ours that gets censored. We play fair. They don't.

Just make sure that our message is louder than theirs. The truth and good will always win.

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

43 posted on 08/13/2003 3:26:05 PM PDT by mhking
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To: medscribe
The press release you posted was from the CATHOLIC Family Association of America. I am merely pointing out that this group should go after the perverts in the Holy See, the same perverts who have been sexually abusing good CATHOLIC boys and girls for God knows how long, FIRST rather than pick on a commercial entity like FOX.

Frankly, since 1) I AM the Vice President of the CATHOLIC Family Association of America, and I have a well-earned reputation here on Free Republic for 2) being not only one of the harshest critics of the homosexual molestator infiltrators of the Catholic priesthood but also 3) actively fighting it by exposing homosexual molesters in my region and assisting their victims, I can categorically state that we are NOT hypocrites while you indeed are an ill-informed bigot.

44 posted on 08/13/2003 3:27:29 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: discostu
It's a very amoral channel.

No surprise....all the networks, especially the minor ones, have to compete with the internet, hundreds of cable channels, crappy Hollywood movies. They've lowered their standards to keep viewers.

46 posted on 08/13/2003 3:30:53 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: All
Well I may piss off a lot of people here by saying this but if you don't agree with the content of the shows then just turn to another channel.

I mean there are shows that I find very objectionable but I change the channel. I don't want anyone telling me what I can or can't watch when in my own home or forcing a show off the air cause you disagree with the content.

I mean think about it folks if a TV show gets good ratings then I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who want to see that show and disagree with you about the content. Let them watch their shows and you turn to another station and watch something else.

47 posted on 08/13/2003 3:35:11 PM PDT by RepublicanArmy (God bless our Troops, Our President, & God Bless America!!!)
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To: ianincali
By the numbers below, broadcast Fox Tv has roughly 3x (NOT 20x) the operating income of Fox News. However, while operating income doubled over the last year for Fox TV, it tripled for Fox News:

From http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/030813/15/3ddgr.html

Revenue at the company, which is controlled by Rupert Murdoch, jumped 20% in the quarter to $4.59 billion from $3.83 billion a year earlier while operating income rose 26% to $570 million.

News Corp.'s (NWS) second-quarter net income totaled 28 cents an American depositary receipt compared with a loss of $1.40 per ADR a year ago.

(A headline at 7:24 a.m. EDT implied that operating net figures were net income figures.)

News Corp.'s television unit, which includes the Fox network and local TV stations, reported operating income of $291 million compared with $179 million a year earlier. The company pointed to increased ratings for "American Idol," "24," "The Simpsons," "That 70s Show" and "Bernie Mac." News Corp.'s Hong Kong-based satellite broadcaster, Star TV, achieved profitability for the full year for the first time since the company has owned the business.

The company's cable network programming unit, which includes the Fox News Channel, cable networks like FX, and the Los Angeles Dodgers, saw operating income rise to $96 million from $34 million a year earlier. The company said viewership at its Fox News network rose 92% in prime time in the fourth quarter and more than doubled on a twenty-four hour basis.

Newspaper operations, which include the British tabloid the Sun and the New York Post, reported operating income of $126 million, an 8% increase. The improvement stemmed largely from an increase in display advertising growth in Australia. During the fourth quarter the company saw the end of a difficult pricing war in the U.K. in which it cut the price of the Sun.

News Corp.'s filmed entertainment division posted operating income of $85 million, an increase of 13%, on the strength of the film "X2: X-Men United."

The company's 80.1%-owned Italian pay-TV business, SKY Italia, reported an operating loss of $68 million for the two months ended June 30. News Corp. acquired the stake on April 30.

News Corp.'s book publishing arm, HarperCollins, saw operating income fall to $4 million from $13 million a year earlier.
48 posted on 08/13/2003 3:37:28 PM PDT by Polycarp ("If God does not exist, everything is permitted" - Father Felix Lubyxsynsky)
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To: Polycarp
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/962584/posts
50 posted on 08/13/2003 3:41:32 PM PDT by jonalvy44
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