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To: gaijin
I don't know. Spys are necessary, just like soldiers. If he were a ChiCom or a Soviet back in the day he'd already be home free on an exchange. Remember we got Gary Powers back that way, and they got some Boris Badanov in exchange. This fellow made the mistake of spying for an friend who will *never* have a US Spy to exchange.

I will admit to a shocking lack of knowledge of the particulars. But Israel is hardly a threat to the USA. Did he *really* harm much more than our pride? Perhaps a Presidential pardon is in order. Surprised Xlinton didn't give him one, actually.
6 posted on 08/13/2003 10:03:07 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
According to what I read about the case, Pollard gave information to Israel about US spies in Russia. Israel turned this information over the the Russians (in return for the relaease of Russian Jews) and the Russians executed those spying for the US.

No nation has friends; they have interests. Ours and Israels didn't happen to coincide in this case. Israel cared more about getting the Russians to release some Jews than they did about our assets. We cared more about our assets. Neither the US nor Israel was necessarily wrong but they did have conflicting interests.

Spying for an ally is still spying. We were allied with the USSR during WWII but spies from that time were jailed (and some even executed) for spying for the USSR. No alliance is guaranteed to last.
7 posted on 08/13/2003 10:13:23 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Jack Black; dennisw; Grampa Dave; DPB101
Former PM Netanyahu Visits Pollard In Prison

by Ellis Shulman, Editor - Israelinsider.com - January 9, 2002

Former Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu visited, for the first time, convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, in his North Carolina jail on Monday. Netanyahu said he found Pollard to be an "especially intelligent man" and offered condolences on the recent death of Pollard's mother. "The governments of Israel have acted in the past and will continue to act in the future in every way possible in order to bring about your release," Netanyahu said he told Pollard.

Netanyahu is the senior-most Israeli figure to have visited Pollard in prison so far, Yediot Aharonot reported. It was during Netanyahu's tenure as prime minister that the government publicly acknowledged that Pollard served as an Israeli agent and intensified its actions to secure his release.

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I am currently re-reading John Loftus and Mark Aarons, The Secret War Against The Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People, St. Martin's Griffin, 1994.

The history of the West and particularly the United States towards the Jewish people and the state of Israel is a surprise to the uninitiated.

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee strikes some of the same tone of monotonous betrayal.

I've always admired Netanyahu and trust his judgment on this case.

Clinton dispatched Carville to insert Barak in lieu of Netanyahu to betray Israel to Arafat.

Pollard was offered a plea agreement which the U.S. violated; even Caspar Weinberger suggests Pollard was overdone.

Here at Los Alamos National Laboratory, Wen Ho Lee was permitted to download all the U.S. warhead designs and data, working surreptitiously at odd hours when he was sure to be alone.

This very dangerous spy stole the entire U.S. nuclear arsenal, put it on tape, was charged with seventy violations--and allowed to walk free after one year.

The treason of President Bill Clinton and his enablers Attorney General Janet Reno and Energy Secretary Bill Richardson ought to result in life imprisonment for the three at Leavenworth.

Pollard has done his time and then some.

To pretend that he is a greater villain than the Clintons and their downstream (John Huang at Commerce, Schwartz-Armstrong of Loral-Hughes, Gore-Chernomyrdin, Strobe Talbott, Gen. Habiger CINC Strategic Forces, etc.) is infantile and ill-informed.

Apparently there was at least discussion of releasing Pollard as part of the Wye Accords.

Apparently Pollard had no equivalent to Denise Rich to blow in Clinton's ear, hand him hundreds of thousands of dollars, and promise him an eternally grateful Marc Rich (the 400-million-dollar tax dodger--don't try this at home).

8 posted on 08/13/2003 10:34:05 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Jack Black
Did he *really* harm much more than our pride?

You better belive he did.

10 posted on 08/13/2003 10:50:50 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jack Black
We gave back Karl and Hana Koecher and got nothing in return. The exchange was a joke. Karl, Hana, the StB and the Centre laughed their hearts out over that deal. The Koecher's should have been fried just as the Rosenbergs were. So consider Pollard a consolation prize.
11 posted on 08/13/2003 10:52:00 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Jack Black
Don't be ludicrious, Gary Powers simply was a pilot flying a spy plane.
Pollard over a period of time stole hundreds of this nations top secrets and gave them to a foreign power. One that has its own interests at heart.
Now Israel has been an ally but at times they also have attacked American soldiers.
Pollard deserved to have been hung, still should be.
15 posted on 08/14/2003 1:47:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Jack Black
Perhaps a Presidential pardon is in order. Surprised Xlinton didn't give him one, actually.

Considering Bubba's track record one can only assume what Johnny boy did was so damaging that even Bubba, who the Israeli's had by the short hairs, could not deliver to them their hero.
47 posted on 08/15/2003 12:17:29 PM PDT by mr.pink
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