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San Francisco Chronicle: "How liberal Democrats hijacked California"
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Aug. 17, 2003 | David Stirling

Posted on 08/17/2003 10:03:34 AM PDT by freedomdefender

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; davis; democarts; dems; graydavis; liberal; liberalism; recall
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1 posted on 08/17/2003 10:03:34 AM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender
Funny that the Chrocknickel would publish this; they have been one of the biggest "pushers" of Liberalism in California.

Insert finger in mouth, withdraw finger, extend into air, determine direction of wind.

2 posted on 08/17/2003 10:07:31 AM PDT by EggsAckley (.....S. U. E..........Stop Unnecessary Excerpting........)
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To: freedomdefender
Right. A major effort has to be made by the California Republican Party, with assistance from the National Republican Party to defeat Democratic State legislators and replace them with Republicans in 2004.
3 posted on 08/17/2003 10:11:20 AM PDT by Tom Jefferson
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To: freedomdefender
Hell must have frozen over for the San Francisco Chronicle to have printed this.

Every word is true.

4 posted on 08/17/2003 10:12:32 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: freedomdefender
Interesting post, especially considering the source. However, what other conclusion can any rational person draw?
5 posted on 08/17/2003 10:13:00 AM PDT by No Dems 2004
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To: happygrl
Wow.
6 posted on 08/17/2003 10:13:43 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: freedomdefender
What a stirring challenge. Bring California back from the precipice before they plunge into the Pacific Ocean.

Democrats do not have the gumption to fight a war, they cannot maintain the peace, and now, they have become less and less able to carry out even the most pedestrian tasks of civil governance.

What they can do well, is blame almost anyone else but themselves when the fecal matter hits the high-volume air redistribution device.
7 posted on 08/17/2003 10:15:22 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Tom Jefferson
California can be a great state again.

Expel 5 million Mexican invaders, change the law so that children born here don't automatically become citizens, open up the coast to offshore drilling, and vote for only conservative Republicans.

That'll do........that'll do.

8 posted on 08/17/2003 10:16:32 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: freedomdefender
great article...
9 posted on 08/17/2003 10:17:05 AM PDT by SolutionsOnly
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To: freedomdefender
Is everyone on vacation at the SF Chronicle for this to be published?
10 posted on 08/17/2003 10:19:05 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: mystery-ak
Who is David Stirling, and why isn't he running for Governor?
11 posted on 08/17/2003 10:20:20 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: freedomdefender
The editors of the Chronicle must have been out whining and dining when this rare article slipped through the net!
12 posted on 08/17/2003 10:25:08 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: No Dems 2004
bump!

BUMP!

BUMP!

13 posted on 08/17/2003 10:25:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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To: Dog Gone
I don't know who Stirling is, but I bet is days are numbered at the Chronicle.
14 posted on 08/17/2003 10:25:42 AM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Well, just expelling illegals, making the State business-friendly, getting some good fiscal management (primarily, cutting spending),and having a conservative legislature will do it.
15 posted on 08/17/2003 10:25:58 AM PDT by Tom Jefferson
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To: Tom Jefferson
Judging from their past efforts, this should be an unqualified success!
16 posted on 08/17/2003 10:31:50 AM PDT by old school
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To: freedomdefender
This is one of the most right-on essays I have seen about liberalism in Cali or anyhwere.
17 posted on 08/17/2003 10:31:51 AM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: freedomdefender
The pendulum is swinging, an epic, political sea change is underway in California. I can say this without a doubt, as Davis is marched to the political gallows by the people of California...
18 posted on 08/17/2003 10:33:39 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: freedomdefender
"the citizens of California are mad as hell and just aren't going to take it anymore."

You couldn't be more wrong, David. They'll take a lot more. Millions of Californians are prepared to vote more Democrats into office. They would gladly wreck the entire United States, just as they have wrecked California, by voting Democrats into national office.

These people have not learned their lesson--not by any means!

"liberal Democrats that dominate the state Legislature have taken us down the garden path for the last four years"

For a lot longer than that, David, and they would love to take the entire U.S.A. down the same "garden path" to destruction.

"In every major category, the liberal-controlled Legislature has set California on a collision course with the concrete wall of reality."

In every major category, THE ENTIRE DEMOCRAT PARTY has set the United States of America on a collision course with the concrete wall of reality. The only question is: Will the voters wake up before these DEMOCRATS completely destroy America and end the American Dream forever?

If California voters are any indication, the answer is a resounding NO!

19 posted on 08/17/2003 10:34:57 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
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To: happygrl
I had the same surprised expression on my face as you and other posters as I read this article, published in the San Francisco Chronicle, of all places. But this is a token conservative piece in the Chronicle.

The author is a former member of the legislature, and now the head of the Pacific Legal Foundation. Pacific is one of a small group of legal charities across the country that regularly fight to enforce the Constitution as written. Those two facts give him the clout to get this published.

And, note that this is edited down from a longer piece that was published in a political science journal. That's why it is so tight, factual, and good. This is a fine article. But do not conclude from its publication that the Chronicle leopard has changed its spots. The paper and its various employees will be back at the same old, non-factual liberal stand in other articles today, tomorrow, and all the days after that.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Nuts and Bolts in California" posted on FR, also published in San Francisco and on UPI.

20 posted on 08/17/2003 10:35:03 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: freedomdefender
This article only confirms the fact that..
Californians havn't learned their lesson YET.so...

Grey Davis(i.e. Bustamante) for GOVERNOR.....

** NOTE: Rub their noses in left wing incompitence. Sometimes it works for dogs..

21 posted on 08/17/2003 10:35:17 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: Tom Jefferson
So much in this article to comment on. But I think this sums it up rather well:

The Assembly recently passed a bill mandating fines of up to $150,000 against business owners - even small clothing stores, Bible bookstores and nonprofit organizations like the Boy Scouts - for refusing to hire cross-dressing and transsexual job applicants.

Two bills came up for a vote this year in the Assembly higher education committee. One, introduced by a Republican legislator, sought to help young men and women serving in the National Guard qualify for Cal Grants - a state- funded scholarship awarded to Californians needing financial help attending college in the state. The other, carried by a liberal Democrat, sought to make the same Cal Grants scholarships available to persons who entered the country illegally. Not surprisingly, the liberal-dominated Higher Education Committee approved the bill granting benefits to persons in California illegally, and killed the measure to assist young people who joined the National Guard.


Just pathetic. Doesn't ANYONE there pay attention, and hold these people accountable??
22 posted on 08/17/2003 10:35:56 AM PDT by baseballmom
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To: freedomdefender

Two bills came up for a vote this year in the Assembly higher education committee. One, introduced by a Republican legislator, sought to help young men and women serving in the National Guard qualify for Cal Grants - a state- funded scholarship awarded to Californians needing financial help attending college in the state. The other, carried by a liberal Democrat, sought to make the same Cal Grants scholarships available to persons who entered the country illegally. Not surprisingly, the liberal-dominated Higher Education Committee approved the bill granting benefits to persons in California illegally, and killed the measure to assist young people who joined the National Guard.

WOW. ... Doesnt that say it all???

23 posted on 08/17/2003 10:36:25 AM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: Dog Gone
LOOKS LIKE ARNIE HAD BETTER BREAK OUT THE VETO PENS TO STOP THIS KIND OF B.S.!!!!
24 posted on 08/17/2003 10:39:54 AM PDT by jocko12
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To: freedomdefender
PING!

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25 posted on 08/17/2003 10:40:28 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: freedomdefender
Man, am I ever sick of that foul pisspot, Kalifornia.
And sicker of the excuses - - the voters elected themselves exactly the liberal Democrat scumbags they deserve. Now they can drop dead as far as I'm concerned. Not so much as one stinking penny of my federal tax dollars better go into that toilet.

Second amendment bump.
26 posted on 08/17/2003 10:42:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
California can be a great state again.

Sadly, I doubt it. It's simply too far gone. Who would change it? The liberals were voted in by liberals who dominate voter rolls. They chased off conservative businesses and a lot of hard-working, productive people. Those productive people are tired of being screwed by idiots who think there is a free lunch. They ain't coming back.

29 posted on 08/17/2003 10:49:08 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: freedomdefender
BUMP
30 posted on 08/17/2003 10:49:10 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: freedomdefender
I promise you one thing, the Chron is getting some very angry emails from the office of Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco.
31 posted on 08/17/2003 10:49:54 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Have I missed something?

Since when have "conservatives" become whiney, defeatist, Nattering Nabobs of Negativity?

Of course conservatives can fix California. In fact, they are the ONLY ones who can.

32 posted on 08/17/2003 10:52:10 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: freedomdefender
Post the photo of David Stirling being hung from the Golden Gate bridge as soon as it comes out. Great article.
33 posted on 08/17/2003 10:57:39 AM PDT by novacation
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To: freedomdefender
Liberals didn't "hijack" California. That's the wrong rhetorical approach. The voters got what they voted for. When you vote for democrats, you get taxing and spending that eventually results in ruin. The CA voters are responsible for this mess.
34 posted on 08/17/2003 11:01:37 AM PDT by Bug
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
"California can be a great state again."
I doubt it


"Expel 5 million Mexican invaders, change the law so that children born here don't automatically become citizens"

Ain't gonna happen.

"open up the coast to offshore drilling"

Too little, too late.

" vote for only conservative Republicans."

Won't make any difference in California.
35 posted on 08/17/2003 11:02:12 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Dog Gone
After reading this article and considering the source of the publication, I now know why the freaking Twilight Zone music was playing on my PC speakers as I hit this thread!
36 posted on 08/17/2003 11:02:49 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: freedomdefender
Two bills came up for a vote this year in the Assembly higher education committee. One, introduced by a Republican legislator, sought to help young men and women serving in the National Guard qualify for Cal Grants - a state- funded scholarship awarded to Californians needing financial help attending college in the state. The other, carried by a liberal Democrat, sought to make the same Cal Grants scholarships available to persons who entered the country illegally. Not surprisingly, the liberal-dominated Higher Education Committee approved the bill granting benefits to persons in California illegally, and killed the measure to assist young people who joined the National Guard.

The left at it's best.....brother

37 posted on 08/17/2003 11:03:04 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: GoOrdnance
Truly!
38 posted on 08/17/2003 11:03:43 AM PDT by EggsAckley (.....S. U. E..........Stop Unnecessary Excerpting........)
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To: Tom Jefferson
A major effort has to be made by the California Republican Party, with assistance from the National Republican Party to defeat Democratic State legislators and replace them with Republicans in 2004.

Where were they for the 2000 election when this really mattered? There's no way under this gerrymandered system will Republicans ever win legislative seats. They'd be better off putting their money into an effort to have the current legislative redistricting thrown out.

39 posted on 08/17/2003 11:04:21 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California: Where government is pornography every day!)
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To: Southack
Me, too. My first thought was, "The Chronicle printed this?!"
40 posted on 08/17/2003 11:05:23 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Lancey Howard
Relax! If California were a nation unto itself, it would rank as the seventh largest economy in the world! What's happening in California, is gradually happening throughout the United States, (more slowly in states with a less hospitable climate). The dumbing-down of the electorate is not unique to California. What's the state of the educational system in Pennsylvania? We have a southern border with Mexico as well. We could probably defend the border ourselves, but, then Federal Government might send the Marines to protect the un-documented immigrants!
41 posted on 08/17/2003 11:06:43 AM PDT by old school
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Expel 5 million Mexican invaders, change the law so that children born here don't automatically become citizens, open up the coast to offshore drilling, and vote for only conservative Republicans.

They don't have to change the law. All they have to do is interpret the 14th Amendment as it was intended. This is the first interpretation of the 14th Amendment on record.
The following text is from the majority opinion (about 3/4 of the way down the page):

http://www2.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/foliocgi.exe/historic/query=[group+f_slavery!3A]/doc/{@6621}/hit_headings/words=4

Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1872) (USSC+)
Opinions
MILLER, J., Opinion of the Court

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.


42 posted on 08/17/2003 11:06:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California: Where government is pornography every day!)
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To: Carry_Okie
"They'd be better off putting their money into an effort to have the current legislative redistricting thrown out."


Good point! Let's do that.

43 posted on 08/17/2003 11:13:01 AM PDT by Tom Jefferson
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To: freedomdefender
All true but somewhat short of the total truth. How did the liberals gain control?

The divisive California Republican Party handed them control. The GOP is mired in the muck of a bunch of factious "more conservative than thou" babies. The current Gubernatorial is a perfect example.

The Liberal faction has maintained discipline and only fielded on real candidate, Bustamonte. The GOP, ever divided and without discipline, has fielded three major candidates. One GOP candidate is a winner, the other two are spoilers. The spoilers will, once again, hand the election to liberals. What principle are the spoilers campaigning on?

I am more conservative than thou.

44 posted on 08/17/2003 11:15:46 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: happygrl
"Hell must have frozen over for the San Francisco Chronicle to have printed this.
Every word is true. "

===

Those were my thoughts exactly.


45 posted on 08/17/2003 11:15:47 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: freedomdefender
liberal-dominated Higher Education Committee approved the bill granting benefits to persons in California illegally, and killed the measure to assist young people who joined the National Guard

I actually became dizzy while reading this. This doesnt happen often, only when i read someting so atrocious that my mind simply cant comprehend it and it short circuits my brain.
46 posted on 08/17/2003 11:16:59 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: freedomdefender
In January, 2002, state Sen. Ray Haynes (R-Murrieta, Riverside County) (now Assemblyman Haynes) opposed a bill tripling the car tax, admonishing his liberal Democrat colleagues: "You have a spending addiction! And what we're saying is, we're going to do the right thing, and we're not going to give you -

at least willingly - more of the drug. We are not going to let you destroy yourselves and destroy this state through your addiction. We are going to say, 'No!' and when you finally face the problem, and when you finally look at the people in the State of California and say you've got a problem, that's when we'll say, 'OK, let's start dealing with . . . your spending addiction.' "

I thought they were kleptomanics...Fantastic article!

47 posted on 08/17/2003 11:18:05 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I need a new tag line)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Of course conservatives can fix California.

OK. Where have they been all these years? The answer is OUTVOTED! California was turned into a socialist grab bag and the conservatives didn't stop it because they did not have the votes.

48 posted on 08/17/2003 11:18:08 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: WOSG; baseballmom
"Two bills came up for a vote this year...."

That was the section that almost knocked me from my chair, too... How can any Californian read that and not immediately register as Republican????
49 posted on 08/17/2003 11:19:43 AM PDT by Tamzee (I was a vegetarian until I started leaning toward the sunlight...... Rita Rudner)
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To: FairOpinion
"Hell must have frozen over for the San Francisco Chronicle to have printed this."

Don't worry... I'm sure we'll see the Chronicle's retraction tomorrow. Of course it will be disguised in the "news" pages, though. ;-)

50 posted on 08/17/2003 11:22:52 AM PDT by Tamzee (I was a vegetarian until I started leaning toward the sunlight...... Rita Rudner)
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