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San Francisco Chronicle: "How liberal Democrats hijacked California"
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Aug. 17, 2003 | David Stirling

Posted on 08/17/2003 10:03:34 AM PDT by freedomdefender

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; davis; democarts; dems; graydavis; liberal; liberalism; recall
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To: Lancey Howard
Relax! If California were a nation unto itself, it would rank as the seventh largest economy in the world! What's happening in California, is gradually happening throughout the United States, (more slowly in states with a less hospitable climate). The dumbing-down of the electorate is not unique to California. What's the state of the educational system in Pennsylvania? We have a southern border with Mexico as well. We could probably defend the border ourselves, but, then Federal Government might send the Marines to protect the un-documented immigrants!
41 posted on 08/17/2003 11:06:43 AM PDT by old school
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Expel 5 million Mexican invaders, change the law so that children born here don't automatically become citizens, open up the coast to offshore drilling, and vote for only conservative Republicans.

They don't have to change the law. All they have to do is interpret the 14th Amendment as it was intended. This is the first interpretation of the 14th Amendment on record.
The following text is from the majority opinion (about 3/4 of the way down the page):

http://www2.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/foliocgi.exe/historic/query=[group+f_slavery!3A]/doc/{@6621}/hit_headings/words=4

Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1872) (USSC+)
Opinions
MILLER, J., Opinion of the Court

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.


42 posted on 08/17/2003 11:06:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California: Where government is pornography every day!)
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To: Carry_Okie
"They'd be better off putting their money into an effort to have the current legislative redistricting thrown out."


Good point! Let's do that.

43 posted on 08/17/2003 11:13:01 AM PDT by Tom Jefferson
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To: freedomdefender
All true but somewhat short of the total truth. How did the liberals gain control?

The divisive California Republican Party handed them control. The GOP is mired in the muck of a bunch of factious "more conservative than thou" babies. The current Gubernatorial is a perfect example.

The Liberal faction has maintained discipline and only fielded on real candidate, Bustamonte. The GOP, ever divided and without discipline, has fielded three major candidates. One GOP candidate is a winner, the other two are spoilers. The spoilers will, once again, hand the election to liberals. What principle are the spoilers campaigning on?

I am more conservative than thou.

44 posted on 08/17/2003 11:15:46 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: happygrl
"Hell must have frozen over for the San Francisco Chronicle to have printed this.
Every word is true. "

===

Those were my thoughts exactly.


45 posted on 08/17/2003 11:15:47 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: freedomdefender
liberal-dominated Higher Education Committee approved the bill granting benefits to persons in California illegally, and killed the measure to assist young people who joined the National Guard

I actually became dizzy while reading this. This doesnt happen often, only when i read someting so atrocious that my mind simply cant comprehend it and it short circuits my brain.
46 posted on 08/17/2003 11:16:59 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: freedomdefender
In January, 2002, state Sen. Ray Haynes (R-Murrieta, Riverside County) (now Assemblyman Haynes) opposed a bill tripling the car tax, admonishing his liberal Democrat colleagues: "You have a spending addiction! And what we're saying is, we're going to do the right thing, and we're not going to give you -

at least willingly - more of the drug. We are not going to let you destroy yourselves and destroy this state through your addiction. We are going to say, 'No!' and when you finally face the problem, and when you finally look at the people in the State of California and say you've got a problem, that's when we'll say, 'OK, let's start dealing with . . . your spending addiction.' "

I thought they were kleptomanics...Fantastic article!

47 posted on 08/17/2003 11:18:05 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I need a new tag line)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Of course conservatives can fix California.

OK. Where have they been all these years? The answer is OUTVOTED! California was turned into a socialist grab bag and the conservatives didn't stop it because they did not have the votes.

48 posted on 08/17/2003 11:18:08 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: WOSG; baseballmom
"Two bills came up for a vote this year...."

That was the section that almost knocked me from my chair, too... How can any Californian read that and not immediately register as Republican????
49 posted on 08/17/2003 11:19:43 AM PDT by Tamzee (I was a vegetarian until I started leaning toward the sunlight...... Rita Rudner)
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To: FairOpinion
"Hell must have frozen over for the San Francisco Chronicle to have printed this."

Don't worry... I'm sure we'll see the Chronicle's retraction tomorrow. Of course it will be disguised in the "news" pages, though. ;-)

50 posted on 08/17/2003 11:22:52 AM PDT by Tamzee (I was a vegetarian until I started leaning toward the sunlight...... Rita Rudner)
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To: Tamsey
Apparently they have become so Socialistic that they hate America and everything it is supposed to stand for, this would include the people that are sent to fight for it. Is it possible to have a nationwide referendum to throw California out of the union?.........seriously.
51 posted on 08/17/2003 11:23:57 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Tamsey
"Hell must have frozen over for the San Francisco Chronicle to have printed this."

Ice Age in California? Must be true...I read this with my own eyes! (Unless someone fudged the source)

Gum

52 posted on 08/17/2003 11:24:07 AM PDT by ChewedGum ( http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: Lancey Howard
Man, am I ever sick of that foul pisspot, Kalifornia.

Then don't read any threads that deal with California. And sicker of the excuses - - the voters elected themselves exactly the liberal Democrat scumbags they deserve. Now they can drop dead as far as I'm concerned.

Davis won by 5 points over Simon. Methinks Davis supporters failed to tap enough cemetary votes. Rememeber, democrats vote early and often. You're on the wrong forum buddy. There are a lot of people here, including me, who did our best to do our part to get rid of Davis. Don't insult us.

53 posted on 08/17/2003 11:27:26 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I need a new tag line)
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To: freedomdefender
"Not surprisingly, the liberal-dominated Higher Education Committee approved the bill granting benefits to persons in California illegally, and killed the measure to assist young people who joined the National Guard."

THAT is why the reigning legislature needs to be reigned in.

I had to read the name of the publication three times. Hard to believe this was in the San Francisco Chronicle. Must be a token piece, like the ones the Compost and NY Times occasionally publish.

54 posted on 08/17/2003 11:30:59 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
You know, it's a shame that socialism is so attractive to so many people that it gets so far ingrained and wrecks the place before people wake up.

An ounce of critical thinking is all it takes to dispell socialism's myth, but it still spreads like wildfire.
55 posted on 08/17/2003 11:32:54 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Have I missed something?

Since when have "conservatives" become whiney, defeatist, Nattering Nabobs of Negativity?

Of course conservatives can fix California. In fact, they are the ONLY ones who can.

Thank you! Imagine if we caved in to England during the Revolutionary War, because it was just too tough to fight a standing army? If our founding fathers had an attitude like that, we'd all be swilling warm beer singing, "God Save the Queen". and "Hail Brittanica".

56 posted on 08/17/2003 11:34:47 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I need a new tag line)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"The author is a former member of the legislature, and now the head of the Pacific Legal Foundation. Pacific is one of a small group of legal charities across the country that regularly fight to enforce the Constitution as written. Those two facts give him the clout to get this published"

That 'splains it. Thanks Billybob.

57 posted on 08/17/2003 11:36:20 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Then don't read any threads that deal with California.

I can't help it any more than I can help gawking at a bloody pile-up on the other side of the highway.

58 posted on 08/17/2003 11:38:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: EggsAckley
Kinda strange ain't it.

Maybe they made a typo and the title should have been..........

San Francisco Chronicle: "How the liberal Media aided the liberal Democrats in hijacking California"

?????

Maybe when the fingerpointing starts they can point to this one article and say, "But we've been covering this story and have been on the side of the California taxpayer. Didn't you read the San Francisco Chronicle artcile "How liberal Democrats hijacked California"?

59 posted on 08/17/2003 11:41:16 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (TAG! You're it!)
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To: freedomdefender
Check this one from KCNC.

Recall could throw California economy into further turmoil

``California needs to bite the bullet and this (recall) is wasting precious time,'' said Sung Won Sohn, chief economist for San Francisco-based Wells Fargo Bank.

Once my August paycheck clears I will be closing my Wells Fargo account and moving to another bank. I will tell them the reason why as well.

60 posted on 08/17/2003 11:41:38 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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