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The New York Times: Another Day, Another Editor, Another Scandal
A Different Drummer ^ | 18 August 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 08/17/2003 1:40:18 PM PDT by mrustow

On July 14, New York Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger named a new executive editor, Bill Keller; made a point of insulting Keller’s predecessor, Howell Raines, whom Sulzberger had rewarded for his loyal service, by pushing out the door; and found himself mired in yet another affirmative action scandal. Don’t it just break your heart?!

In introducing Times veteran Keller in his new capacity, Sulzberger went out of his way to take a potshot at Raines, who had been on the Charlie Rose Show only three days earlier, where he’d spoken of the Times suffering from a “lethargic culture of complacency.” Sulzberger insisted, "There's no complacency here. Never has been. Never will be." Of course, this is the same man who would have you believe that Raines “resigned” on June 5, based on a “mutual” understanding.

There are no “mutual understandings” between an owner and an employee, unless they are binding legal agreements hammered out by the respective parties’ attorneys.

Of course, there was a complacency at the Times when Raines came over from the op-ed section; otherwise, Sulzberger would never have named Raines to shake things up. The hardline socialist Sulzberger wanted what Raines had to offer: An abrasive, go-go management style, and an ideological rigidity that would erase the slight difference then remaining between the editorial and news departments. Raines gave Sulzberger the correct politics, and a cartload of Pulitzers, to boot. And now, Raines had to take the fall for the boss’ diversity politics.

Keller gave a folksy – or at least what passes for folksy on 43rd Street – talk, in which he told staffers to spend more time with their families, and in art museums. Now, I suppose, multi-tasking feature writers will bundle up the kids and their nannies, and spend days in the Metropolitan Museum, writing essays on how New York professional families spend edifying quality time together.

Bill Keller’s ascent, finally, to the executive editorship – he competed with Raines for the job in 2001, and had previously been managing editor for four years – will change little at the Gray Lady, as long as Sulzberger remains publisher. Sulzberger runs the paper at the sufferance of a group of relatives who together own it. In the first quarter of the year -- even before May’s Jayson Blair scandal, the Times made news for all the wrong reasons – for losing 5% of its reader base. I can hardly wait to see the losses from its second quarter!

Mind you, I’m not complaining, because as long as Sulzberger retains control of the broadsheet, we can count on a steady march of journalistic scandals in Timesville.

Actually, as my previous column and many others have showed, the scandals had been going on all the time, but the media kept them quiet. With the Jayson Blair case, some sort of indeterminate critical mass was reached, even though the same media that reported breathlessly on the Blair case, misrepresented it, by denying its quintessentially racial character, and the history out of which it arose.

Indeed, one of the mainstream journalists who most obsessively misrepresented the Blair case, New York magazine’s Michael Wolff, got himself quoted on a local TV news broadcast on July 14, opining, “We are going back to the original fork [actually, it sounded like he said “cork”] in the road,” before the “disaster” of Howell Raines. While Wolff was chronologically correct, I’m at a loss to find any significance in his statement.

On the same day as Bill Keller’s installation as executive editor, the Times published two extraordinarily blunt corrections of a story from seven days earlier. One correction was an editorial statement, and the other was an entire, corrective article by reporter Diana B. Henriques, with the unheard of length of 2217 words.

In a July 7 story on hiphop content provider, TVT Records, reporter Lynette Holloway, who for the past six months has covered the hip-hop business, got a few things wrong. Among other things, she said that since TVT President Steven Gottlieb had defaulted on a loan from Prudential Securities, Prudential now controlled TVT, and was looking for a buyer for TVT. “While battling Def Jam [a competitor, in a successful, $132 million lawsuit], Mr. Gottlieb lost control of his company to Prudential Securities, which took over TVT Records in February after Mr. Gottlieb defaulted on loans totaling $23.5 million, court records show. Two weeks ago, Prudential began looking for buyers, people close to the case said.

“But even if TVT is not sold, Mr. Gottlieb may have trouble regaining control over his label. If his award is substantially reduced when the case is heard on appeal this fall, his ability to finance his business could be imperiled.”

Holloway also described TVT president Steven Gottlieb as sue-happy (“litigious”), as if Gottlieb went around shaking down competitors with strategic lawsuits.

Reaction wasn’t long in coming.

On Friday, July 11, in a Fox News story, Roger Friedman reported that,

“Monday's Times article by business reporter Lynette Holloway spins TVT as a loser outfit and gives a lopsided look at the company's financial situation. The story was also riddled with errors, according to a press release issued by TVT.

“The problems stem from the Times reporting on a $23 million loan TVT obtained in 1999. Owner Steve Gottlieb used 5 percent of the company's back catalog as collateral in what was then called a securitization or a ‘Bowie Bond.’ Prudential Securities put up the money. But Prudential claims TVT has defaulted on the loan, and has been trying to foreclose on it for about a year. Just the loan, not the whole of TVT.

“Just the 5 percent. Got it?

“Apparently the Times didn't. In Monday's paper, Holloway declared that Gottlieb had lost control of TVT and that Prudential was now shopping TVT to new buyers. This was in the New York Times, so maybe people believed it. It is, however, untrue.

“In fact, Gottlieb is very much in control of TVT. Prudential does not own it, isn't in charge of it, and isn't selling it. A Prudential source said to me yesterday: ‘When I saw that story in the Times, I thought, 'That's interesting. How can we sell something we don't own?’

“In fact, in February, Prudential was denied the right by a judge even to foreclose on the assets that had been used as collateral by TVT. And that was just a few soundtracks, etc, all from 1999 and earlier. Somehow the Times missed that.”

Friedman’s story – perhaps helped along by TVT’s PR and legal departments -- apparently motivated the dramatic Times corrections, which appeared on July 14. First, the unsigned, house correction, which follows in its entirety.

“An article in Business Day last Monday about Steven Gottlieb, founder and president of TVT Records, discussed his involvement in a number of lawsuits and assessed the financial status of his company. The article's main premises — that Mr. Gottlieb had lost control of his company and had a reputation for being litigious — were based on fundamental misunderstandings of the subject, scope and status of the legal proceedings discussed.

“A review of the legal cases and the facts indicates that it was not fair to describe Mr. Gottlieb as litigious, and it shows that Mr. Gottlieb remains in control of TVT Records. A corrective article, which appears today in the business section, is linked here.

“Beyond the inaccuracies arising from the article's mistaken premises, there were other factual errors. Mr. Gottlieb graduated from Harvard Law School in 1984, not 1985, and his office is in Manhattan north of Houston Street, not in SoHo. He started his company with $125,000, not $250,000. The theme song from ‘The Brady Bunch’ was part of the second volume of Mr. Gottlieb's album ‘Television's Greatest Hits,’ not the first.”

“Fundamental misunderstandings,” indeed!

Not only that, but on the same day, the Times ran an extraordinary, 2217-word corrective story by reporter Diana B. Henriques, that did everything but call Holloway a dithering incompetent.

“In a profile of Mr. Gottlieb last Monday, The New York Times reported incorrectly that Mr. Gottlieb had defaulted on a $23.5 million loan and that as a result, in February he had lost control of his company, officially called TeeVee Toons Inc., to Prudential.

“In fact Mr. Gottlieb was never personally responsible for the defaulted loan and remains in full control of his company…. Prudential has no claim to TVT Records itself and therefore would not be in a position to sell the company, as the article reported.

“The article also cast a negative light on Mr. Gottlieb's history of involvement in lawsuits …

“It also referred inaccurately to his relationships with certain prominent performing artists, and several important aspects of his recent courtroom victory in which a jury awarded him $132 million in a contract dispute with the Island Def Jam Music Group …

“Beyond the inaccuracies arising from the article's mistaken premises, there were also several other factual errors …

“Reported incorrectly.” “Referred inaccurately to.” “Inaccuracies.” “Mistaken premises.” “Several other factual errors.”

On Tuesday, July 15, writing for Fox News’ sister company, the New York Post, media business reporter Keith Kelly added some background, and listed some of Holloway’s previous bloopers, such as reporting in March, that Madonna’s lifetime worldwide record sales were $200 million, as opposed to the correct figure of over $2 billion.

“Times staffers are holding their collective breath, hoping another Jayson Blair scandal is not about to erupt….

“Early indications point to sloppy reporting and factual errors in Holloway's stories….

“The Blair scandal led to criticism that Raines had protected Blair despite a poor record because Blair is African-American and Raines was trying to improve diversity in the newsroom.

“Halloway's [sic] problems could lead to similar questions, since she is also African-American.

“Like Blair, she had caught the attention of Raines, who put her in the media section of the paper, insiders said.

“Investigators at The Times will find Holloway has had other problems with her reporting. She has worked the media beat for about six months, and was at the paper for about 10 years before that….

“Holloway referred calls to the Times and said that she has not been fired or suspended or otherwise forced out as a result of the correction.”

Apparently, Raines had moved Holloway, who had previously covered education and the media, to cover hip-hip, because she is black. Some observers denounced the thinking behind such a transfer as “racist,” but if it is racist, it is a racism with which the vast majority of black reporters and editors concur.

In the news business today, black “journalists” demand to be given control of any stories or departments that deal with black folks, and as William McGowan (in 2001 in Coloring the News) and Ruth Shalit (in a 1995 New Republic expose, on race relations among Washington Post writers and editors) have revealed, they routinely do everything in their considerable powers, to sabotage work by white reporters working the same territory. And when whites still manage to write any unflattering stories on black public figures, black journalists cry “racism,” as former Washington Post staffer Jill Nelson did in her memoir, Volunteer Slavery, and their white supporters, such as Queens College political scientist Andrew Hacker (in Two Nations), insinuate the existence of a white conspiracy to harm high-profile black men.

Just so we’re clear, Andrew Hacker was talking about a white conspiracy against the likes of corrupt, Washington, D.C. mayor Marion Barry, murderer O.J. Simpson, and boxer Mike Tyson, who was accused of rape by a black woman, and convicted, no thanks to any white reporters or editors.

Such racial gangsterism is a big reason why Mayor Marion Barry was able to destroy Washington, D.C. In Volunteer Slavery, Jill Nelson, who felt a similar protectiveness toward Barry, and corresponding hatred toward white journalists who lacked such feelings, brags of her success in manipulating an unflattering story on the mayor. A black woman had charged Barry with having raped her. Nelson got the word “rape” dropped from the story, in favor of “forced,” so that readers ultimately would not know what the woman said Barry had done to her. “Woman Says Barry Forced Her Into Sex; Mayor Calls Testimony ‘Not Believable.’” Nelson later exulted, “Now that’s spin control.”

In a spirit of patronizing generosity, permit me to point out that Lynette Holloway has previously gotten stories right, and that a white Times reporter botched a story just as badly three years ago, without getting fired.

The story Holloway got right, was on so-called bilingual education. She observed that many Hispanic children were “languish[ing]” for as many as nine years in bilingual education. For this attack of honesty, Holloway was roundly attacked by the bilingual ed lobby. Who ever said, “honesty is the best policy”? In journalism, as in academia and the public schools, nothing will get a person in more trouble, than telling the truth. (Actually, things were much worse than Holloway reported. Hispanic children often languish for thirteen years in bilingual ed, and graduate form High School illiterate in both Spanish and English.)

The Times’ white alleged reporter who dramatically botched a story, was Kate Zernike; the story was on the reaction, or lack thereof, to the June, 2000 U.S. Supreme Court decision upholding the Boys Scouts of America’s ban on gay scout leaders. Kate Zernike’s August 29, 2000 front page story, reported that “corporate and governmental support for the organization had slipped markedly,” citing the withdrawal of monetary support by Chase Manhattan, Merill Lynch and Textron. As William McGowan chronicles in Coloring the News, Zernike was found to have written one falsehood after another, including her suggestion that many parents of boy scouts were opposed to the policy, and that, as McGowan put it, “a grassroots rebellion … could be in the offing.”

“Not a week later, though, the Times was forced to run a mortifying, five-paragraph correction undercutting almost every one of Zernike’s contentions.”

Was Kate Zernike fired? Not at all. Was she reprimanded? Of course not. On the contrary, if anything, in supporting the campaign against Boy Scouts of America led by the mainstream media’s “gay mafia,” Zernike’s lies enhanced her standing at the Times.

As Accuracy in Media founder Reed Irvine reported in News Max in 2001, at the 2001 convention of the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association, New York Times national political correspondent, Richard Berke, celebrated that, "Now, there are times when you look at the [Times'] front-page meeting and ... literally three-quarters of the people deciding what’s on the front page are not-so-closeted homosexuals."

It’s thus no accident, that after having published hundreds of stories on the 1998 murder of openly gay, Wyoming college student Matthew Shepard by two heterosexual men, the Times refused to report on the savage, 1999 torture-rape-murder of Jesse Dirkhising in Arkansas by two gay pedophiles.

As I will show in a later column, the Holloway corrections notwithstanding, since the departure of Jayson Blair, and the dismissal of Howell Raines and managing editor Gerald Boyd, the paper has not changed its corrupt ways at all.

This column originally appeared in Toogood Reports on July 24, while I was away on vacation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: billkeller; ccrm; falsification; howellraines; jaysonblair; lynetteholloway; mediabias; mediacorruption; mediafraud; medialies; newyorktimes; nyt; nytschadenfreude; plagiarism; schadenfreude; thenewyorktimes
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1 posted on 08/17/2003 1:40:19 PM PDT by mrustow
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2 posted on 08/17/2003 1:44:25 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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3 posted on 08/17/2003 1:45:43 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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4 posted on 08/17/2003 1:46:36 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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5 posted on 08/17/2003 1:48:09 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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6 posted on 08/17/2003 1:48:46 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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7 posted on 08/17/2003 1:49:29 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mrustow
Business as usual at the NY Times.
8 posted on 08/17/2003 1:57:36 PM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: mrustow
I tried wrapping some week-old fish in an old NYT the other day but the fish jumped out.

Said the paper stunk.
9 posted on 08/17/2003 2:01:47 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mrustow
Continuing to savage the New York Times for its gross errors in reporting and its political bigotry is an essential task. Those who undertake to do that should be commended, because it is hard-slgging work. One must be well-armed with facts to attack the Times, and this author is.

The only reason I did not include a Times article in my recent column, "Death by Typewriter," is that the Times seldom writes articles that will get specific people killed. On the other hand, the general reporting of the Times is to bring about, and then celebrate, the death of American culture. So, anything that damages the Times is good for America. IMHO.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Nuts and Bolts in California" posted on FR, also published in San Francisco and on UPI.

10 posted on 08/17/2003 2:03:09 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: mrustow
The article fails to mention one of the most egregious errors that the NYT has made since the change of management. Last Sunday the paper ran a front page story about US soldiers being killed in Iraq, sourcing unnamed high military officials. It turns out that there was only one source, a private and the whole story was a propaganda lie. The private has never been located.
11 posted on 08/17/2003 2:06:07 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
You're referring, I take it, to "Pvt. Jose Belen." This story was written before the Belen-hoax. Besides, isn't it long enough, already? The author has devoted many long articles to different frauds and hoaxes at the Times. The Belen hoax would surely require an article of its own.
12 posted on 08/17/2003 2:10:08 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Could you please post a link to "Death by Typewriter"? Thanks.
13 posted on 08/17/2003 2:11:26 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Brian Allen
I tried wrapping some week-old fish in an old NYT the other day but the fish jumped out.

Said the paper stunk.

LOL.

14 posted on 08/17/2003 2:22:44 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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Schadenfreude

This is the New York Times Schadenfreude Ping List. Freepmail me to be added or dropped.


15 posted on 08/17/2003 2:23:54 PM PDT by Timesink
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16 posted on 08/17/2003 2:24:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
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17 posted on 08/17/2003 2:26:06 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
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To: Grampa Dave
ROTFL.

And he calls himself, "Rat." Could the cartoonist be a FReeper?

18 posted on 08/17/2003 2:49:26 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Timesink
Bumpbackatcha!
19 posted on 08/17/2003 2:49:53 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mrustow
Liberal editors are like lobsters: they live off the feces that sink to the bottom, and when confronting one another, engage in cannibalism.


20 posted on 08/17/2003 2:50:56 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: mrustow
I have said similiar things about the total lack of any credibility of most NY Slimes stories; however, I have minimal artistic ability. My 4 year old grand daughter is starting to realize that while I still have my 2 year old grandson amazed with my stick figures. I still have more than my wife and her father.
21 posted on 08/17/2003 2:54:57 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
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To: Grampa Dave
More NYT disregard for the facts [here].
22 posted on 08/17/2003 2:54:57 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: snopercod
I just posted this reply with your great catch of the latest lie of the Slimes on the other thread. Great Job!

Great catch. You should send that to the editor of the NY Post, so they can get a big spot light on the Slimes's latest lie or manipulation of the truth.

23 posted on 08/17/2003 2:58:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
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24 posted on 08/17/2003 2:59:51 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: mrustow
Outstanding column, outstanding writing.
Thanks for the ping.
25 posted on 08/17/2003 3:13:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: snopercod
It is hard to believe nowadays that the Old Gray Whore was once considered, "the paper of record". It has become completely unreliable trash, worse than any collegian daily.
26 posted on 08/17/2003 3:19:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dog Gone
LOL !





27 posted on 08/17/2003 3:33:30 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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28 posted on 08/17/2003 3:35:03 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: mrustow
And thus the familiar: The Gay Lady!
29 posted on 08/17/2003 4:43:56 PM PDT by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: mrustow; Liz; Bonaparte
Does anybody know what Gregg Whiteside said to be fired from WQXR by the NYT? Considering that we're talking about the NY Slimes, and that Whiteside's job involves classical music, I suspect he was slurring somebody for being gay. But I wonder if the person he was slurring may not have been Pinch. Would certainly explain the firing, without severance pay, no less.
30 posted on 08/17/2003 5:52:53 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: mrustow
Go to GoogleNews and search on "John Armor." The article, "Death by Typewriter," will pop up as one of three. Do you know how to create a link? I'm not skilled enough to do that.

Billybob

31 posted on 08/17/2003 6:00:29 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: aristeides
Dunno. Pinch a sodomite? Wouldn't surprise. He is fond of those tassled loafers. Wonder how much they weigh? Rumor has it that he "downsized" Abe Rosenthal for rejecting the use of the word "gay" to describe homos. Certainly the NYT is a knee-jerk standard bearer for the homosexual lobby.
32 posted on 08/17/2003 6:40:29 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the heads up!
33 posted on 08/17/2003 6:58:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Yeah, heard about it. Whatever the reason, I'll accept Bonaparte's take on it. Best one I've heard.

BTW, since hip-hop interests are involved in a lawsuit against Gottlieb, one wonders whether Holloway's misreporting was sloppy news-gathering, or an effort to doubleteam the case for the hip-hoppers.

34 posted on 08/17/2003 7:02:09 PM PDT by Liz
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To: aristeides
Reprinted form the August 14 New York Post.

Radio announcer Gregg Whiteside, the voice of The New York Times -owned classical station WQXR, was fired this week in another political-correctness flap at the Gray Lady.

The station canned Whiteside — whose voice was synonymous with classical music in New York for 25 years — without notice or severance.

The station said the firing was "because of inappropriate comments which he admitted making."

Neither Whiteside nor the station would say exactly what those comments were.

[MusicalAmerica.com, citing station insiders, reports that the comments were "construed" as anti-Semitic by a passerby.]

"They've destroyed an innocent man," an emotional Whiteside told The Post yesterday. "I gave my life to that place. This wasn't a job for me — it was a way of life."

Whiteside says the trouble started two weeks ago when he made an off-the-air remark to 'QXR colleague Sam Hall that was overheard by someone who passed by the studio.

The station is located in the Times building on West 43rd Street — near the paper's newsroom.

"I believed I was having a private and confidential conversation with Sam Hall, who's even more like my brother than my own brother ... and that conversation might have leaked out into the newsroom," Whiteside says.

"I was speaking privately to a dear friend and it was not something that was on the air," he says, adding that he wasn't given the chance to apologize and told to leave Tuesday.

"I am in a state of utter depression and I'm devastated by this," he says. "To be fired with no severance? Are you kidding me?"

35 posted on 08/17/2003 7:21:25 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Alamo-Girl
My pleasure.
36 posted on 08/17/2003 7:22:38 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Bonaparte; Liz
See #35.
37 posted on 08/17/2003 7:23:26 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mrustow
Thanks for the ping. I'm amazed things are this bad.

Such racial gangsterism is a big reason why Mayor Marion Barry was able to destroy Washington, D.C. In Volunteer Slavery, Jill Nelson, who felt a similar protectiveness toward Barry, and corresponding hatred toward white journalists who lacked such feelings, brags of her success in manipulating an unflattering story on the mayor.

A black woman had charged Barry with having raped her. Nelson got the word “rape” dropped from the story, in favor of “forced,” so that readers ultimately would not know what the woman said Barry had done to her. “Woman Says Barry Forced Her Into Sex; Mayor Calls Testimony ‘Not Believable.’” Nelson later exulted, “Now that's spin control.”

38 posted on 08/17/2003 7:25:25 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: mrustow
This is a very good read. Newspapers are dying a slow death. Propaganda machines like the Times are dying more quickly. Justice is perverse, the liberals cling to defending a public education system which does not prepare its students to read much of anything whether it be news or propaganda,and it is the failure of that they defend that will be their undoing.
39 posted on 08/17/2003 7:27:00 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: mrustow
Excellent sleuthing! Sounds like the Times, or someone at the Times, was looking for an excuse to can him and they finally found one.

On a ship, in a prison, at the NYT -- you dummy up. Whiteside just learned that.

40 posted on 08/17/2003 8:27:37 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: GOPJ
That's just one slice of life in urban America. Other slices that are just as rotten are education, social work, policing, etc.
41 posted on 08/17/2003 8:37:06 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mrustow
bump
42 posted on 08/17/2003 9:06:40 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Bonaparte
Excellent sleuthing! Sounds like the Times, or someone at the Times, was looking for an excuse to can him and they finally found one.

Thanks. I'm sure you're right. Imagine -- after 25 years, it's just "clear out your desk, right now."

On a ship, in a prison, at the NYT -- you dummy up. Whiteside just learned that.

That's some heavy parallel, but unfortunately, you're right. Reminds me of when I taught college.

43 posted on 08/17/2003 9:08:17 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: All
BTTT
44 posted on 08/18/2003 9:39:17 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Grampa Dave
Hee hee!! If the NYT had any consideration for its employees, it would provide free bags for them to wear over their heads when coming and going from the building.
45 posted on 08/18/2003 9:41:47 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Biblebelter
This is a very good read. Newspapers are dying a slow death. Propaganda machines like the Times are dying more quickly. Justice is perverse, the liberals cling to defending a public education system which does not prepare its students to read much of anything whether it be news or propaganda,and it is the failure of that they defend that will be their undoing.

That is the most succinct description of the death rattle of the modern American newspaper I've yet seen. I would add only, that papers go out of their way to pander to people who don't even read newspapers, at the same time that they go out of their way to insult those who do.

46 posted on 08/18/2003 9:43:02 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mewzilla
Hee hee!! If the NYT had any consideration for its employees, it would provide free bags for them to wear over their heads when coming and going from the building.

I love it!

47 posted on 08/18/2003 9:43:49 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: fightinJAG
Bumpbackatcha!
48 posted on 08/18/2003 9:44:17 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Liz
BTW, since hip-hop interests are involved in a lawsuit against Gottlieb, one wonders whether Holloway's misreporting was sloppy news-gathering, or an effort to doubleteam the case for the hip-hoppers.

That's an intriguing angle; I'm familiar with reporters fixing lawsuits for their friends.

49 posted on 08/18/2003 9:53:14 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Lancey Howard
Sure thing.
50 posted on 08/18/2003 9:54:15 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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