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A Lone Wolf on U.S. Intelligence, Iraq Marches On
New York Sun ^
| 8-19-03
| ADAM DAIFALLAH - Staff Reporter of the Sun
Posted on 08/20/2003 12:34:12 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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Why are the people who made the mistakes that left us vulnerable on September 11 still in important positions in the CIA and State?
Why is the CIA constantly leaking information that constantly undermines the president? ...
Middle East experts like CNNs Iraq analyst and author of the best-selling book The Threatening Storm, Kenneth Pollack, and Patrick Clawson, the deputy director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, earn Ms. Mylroies scorn in her new book for what she says is a readiness to adjust their view on Iraq to fit the prevailing view of the day.
She is particularly critical of an essay in the January/February 1999 issue of the foreign policy journal Foreign Affairs, The Rollback Fantasy, which argued against working with the democratic Iraqi opposition to overthrow Saddam Hussein.
To: Matchett-PI
Laurie Mylroie is a prophet without honor in her own country. Subsequent events have proven her right and people still don't listen!
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posted on
08/20/2003 12:38:30 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Matchett-PI
Saddam's reign of terror was aided by none other than the UN with its Oil for Food program. Whatever Saddam did he got cover from Russia, France, Germany among many others.
The Clinton Administration's policy of "EQUALIZE ALL NATIONS" with Maddie Albright at the helm under the UN did nothing to stop Saddam either.
Looks more like a worldwide conspiracy of socialists and communists and most Americans were caught sleeping.
To: goldstategop
As time goes by, and the evidence becomes just too obvious and voluminous to deny, Laurie Mylroie will be vindicated on all points.
She is already a hero to me.
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posted on
08/20/2003 1:11:47 AM PDT
by
John Valentine
(In Seoul, and keeping one eye on the hills to the North...)
To: Matchett-PI
One of the co-authors of The Rollback Fantasy, Gideon Rose, said Ms. Mylroies views are suspect.
The vast majority of serious professional observers think shes completely wrong, he said, noting that most observers acknowledge that Saddam is bad guy and has been involved in terrorism in the past, but the notion that Saddam has been connected to major terrorism in the 90s past the assassination attempt on President Bush is not widely held by serious professionals.
Mr. Rose said that this view is one of the things that separates serious professionals from the amateurs. Don't ya just love that type of BS argument? The guy is basically saying he, himself, doesn't have a clue but lots of people whose butt he kisses on a daily basis disagree with this woman so therefore she must be wrong. Scientific American did a similar hit piece on Bjorn Lomborg's Skeptical Environmentalist in their magazine. They never pointed out which part of his book was false, instead they relied on three "experts" to say how badly his book offended them and how all "respectable" scientists in their field had a different opinion.
At the end of the day, this woman might be wrong but this is an underhanded way of taking a jab at her. Point out where she's wrong- don't just say "a lot of pompous a$$es with whom I work look down their noses at her and therefore you should as well".
To: Matchett-PI
I've read about 1/2 of her new book, Bush vs the Beltway. Great reading. I recommend it to one and all. I just bought her book "The War Against America" (Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks). I have not read any of it yet.
She talks about the anthrax attacks and uses quotes from Bob Woodwards's book "Bush At War" (Woodward got his quotes from REAL National Security Council notes). According to the notes Tenet, Cheney & Cheney's chief of Staff, Scooter Libbey, believe the attack was state sponsored (Iraq). Cheney said in the meeting for them not to say in public that it was Alqaeda or Iraq because we were not in a position to do anything about it right then. We were in the war in Afganistan at that time.
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posted on
08/20/2003 7:39:20 AM PDT
by
nightowl
To: John Valentine
me too...she needs to be on tv all the time!
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posted on
08/20/2003 7:42:14 AM PDT
by
rrrod
To: cake_crumb; Mo1; Ernest_at_the_Beach; oldglory; Luke FReeman; backhoe; tallhappy; W.O.T.; ...
Pingggggg!!!! Thought some of you would find this of interest!
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posted on
08/20/2003 7:44:53 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: Matchett-PI
Thanks for the ping.
I do wish people would take Laurie Mylroie more seriously.
To: Matchett-PI
Thanks for the ping. Bump for later read...
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posted on
08/20/2003 7:48:42 AM PDT
by
eureka!
(Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
To: Princeton; Badabing Badaboom; pokerbuddy0
Iraq & Laurie Mylroie ping
To: goldstategop
"Laurie Mylroie is a prophet without honor in her own country. Subsequent events have proven her right and people still don't listen!"Noble mentalities are always going to be in the minority.
Lots of people agreed with the principles and goals of the signers of The Declaration of Independence that set the stage for what would become the greatest nation on the face of the earth, but when it came to making the sacrifices that were necessary, history shows that very few were willing to step up to the plate.
They are the ignoble, gutless, base mentalities who don't deserve the freedom that their betters sacrificed friends, family, wealth, prestige, comfort, and their very lives to give them.
They wind up where they belong --- in the dust-bin of history.
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:06:35 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: Matchett-PI
Thanks for the ping .. I like listening to Laurie Mylroie when I see her on TV
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:24:03 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(I still hate Liberal Democrats)
To: Just mythoughts
"...most Americans were caught sleeping." An affluant society that feels safe has the luxury of being complacent and focusing on irrelative nonsense rather than substantive issues.
9-11 caused some to grow up fast.
Unfortunately for us, there are way too many adults that still haven't grown up.
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:26:54 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: John Valentine
"As time goes by, and the evidence becomes just too obvious and voluminous to deny, Laurie Mylroie will be vindicated on all points. She is already a hero to me."Dittos to that!!
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:28:33 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: nightowl
"According to the notes Tenet, Cheney & Cheney's chief of Staff, Scooter Libbey, believe the attack was state sponsored (Iraq). Cheney said in the meeting for them not to say in public that it was Alqaeda or Iraq because we were not in a position to do anything about it right then. We were in the war in Afganistan at that time." We will deal with Syria (and Iran, et.al.) when the time is right, too if Bush's team prevails over the Marxist obstructionists in the State Dept., the CIA, etc.
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:37:15 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: rrrod; John Valentine; goldstategop; Just mythoughts
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:45:25 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: Prodigal Son
"The guy is basically saying he, himself, doesn't have a clue but lots of people whose butt he kisses on a daily basis disagree with this woman so therefore she must be wrong. Scientific American did a similar hit piece on Bjorn Lomborg's Skeptical Environmentalist in their magazine. They never pointed out which part of his book was false, instead they relied on three "experts" to say how badly his book offended them and how all "respectable" scientists in their field had a different opinion." Once the populace has been dumbed-down and indoctrinated, those capable of critical thought, like you, will be in the minority. That's how they get away with diversionary strawman / red herring arguments.
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posted on
08/20/2003 8:56:54 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
To: Matchett-PI
Bump.
To: FairOpinion
"an eccentric perennial gadfly who cannot get beyond an obsession with a single issue"
Hmmmmm....sounds familiar.
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posted on
08/20/2003 12:05:09 PM PDT
by
Princeton
(the knots of folly grow tighter)
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