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Gulf War Veterans Sue Banks, Companies (Article claims 11,000 vets have already died!) Hartford Courant ^ | 8/20/03 | Thomas D. Williams

Posted on 08/20/2003 5:35:56 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket

Gulf War Veterans Sue Banks, Companies August 20, 2003 By THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, Courant Staff Writer

Sixteen veterans from the Persian Gulf War filed suit Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn, N.Y., against 11 chemical companies and 33 banks from throughout the world that allegedly helped Iraq construct and support its extensive chemical warfare program.

The suit alleges that evidence shows the companies "built Saddam Hussein's nerve gas and mustard gas factories, supplied him with chemical weapons production equipment, and sold him the bulk chemical precursors used to make his chemical weapons." It asks to become a class action on behalf of all veterans of the 1991 gulf war who can prove they became sick from chemical weapons' fallout.

These companies and banks, the suit claims, are identified in the official written Iraqi disclosures given to the U.N. weapons inspectors after the war. They essentially expose Hussein's procurement network for building his large chemical weapons arsenal, the complaint alleges. The foreign companies and banks all do business in New York.

The banks named in the suit include Deutsche Bank AG of Germany, Lloyds Bank of the United Kingdom, Credit Lyonnais of France, State Bank of India, Banca Roma of Italy, National Bank of Pakistan, Arab Bank of Jordan, Bank of Tokyo and Kuwait Commercial bank. The companies that the suit claims have sold chemicals or materials to Iraq are headquartered in France, Switzerland, Germany, Great Britain and the United States - ABB Lummus Global Inc. in Delaware.

The banks helped facilitate the sales of the chemicals by arranging finances and letters of credit between the companies and the Central Bank of Iraq, the fiscal facilitator for the Iraqi chemical producers, the suit alleges.

Thirty-six percent of the 581,000 retired veterans who served at the height of the gulf war have filed health government claims, while 22 percent of those filing claims either still have those health claims pending or have been denied benefits. More than 11,000 of the veterans, whose average age was 36 during the war, have died. The federal health figures were updated this year but date to last November.

The veterans' exposures came from the chemical fallout blown over troops from allied bombings of Hussein's chemical weapons production and storage facilities during the air war, the suit claims. In addition, the suit says, the veterans became sick from "the explosion of hundreds of captured and uninventoried Iraqi ammunition dumps in southeast Iraq during the brief time that coalition troops were in that area upon the liberation of Kuwait."

During the ground war and after, U.S. and allied forces destroyed large stores of chemical weapons. And as the battles progressed, thousands of military chemical alarms went off, causing soldiers to don chemical protective equipment. Since then, the U.S. General Accounting Office and veterans' advocates have criticized the lack of quality of the masks and chemical protective suits worn by U.S. troops.

Two of the most controversial after-war explosions were at Khamisiyah, Iraq, on March 4 and 10, 1991. The Defense Department first estimated that 5,000 troops were exposed, and then increased the estimates repeatedly until the number rose to 100,000. Another GAO report said the number is much higher than that but gave no specific figure.

The Defense Department claimed the troops' exposure to chemical warfare agents was too weak to have seriously harmed their health. And last year, the department disputed high death-rate figures for those troops cited by the Veterans Benefit Association.

After U.S. forces bombed the Iraqi bunkers, the CIA admitted it had advance knowledge that the bunkers contained chemical warfare agents, but the information never filtered down to troops in the area. Most were not wearing gas masks and chemical suits.

The lawsuit, drafted by attorneys Gary Pitts, an Army National Guard veteran, and Kenneth McCallion, claims the companies named in the complaint "made large profits by helping Saddam Hussein make the nerve gas and mustard gas" to which the veterans were exposed.

A government study released more than a year ago said a sample of 10,423 veterans showed they had "a cluster of symptoms consistent with neurological impairment," consistent with exposure to nerve gas.

Symptoms reported by the veterans include blurred vision, loss of balance or dizziness, tremors or shaking, and speech difficulty. The study was conducted by the Veterans Health Administration in the federal Department of Veterans Affairs and the George Washington University School of Public Health.

Medical research, the suit says, has likewise shown that mustard gas exposure causes birth defects and cancer.

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More than 11,000 of the veterans, whose average age was 36 during the war, have died.

If this figure is true:

It clearly shows that there was and continue to be a major cover-up by the Pentagon and the Military about this issue.

This is a travesty and we have failed our men and women who served during Gulf War 1. They have been ill and dying under our very noses.

1 posted on 08/20/2003 5:35:57 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
i don't know but i'd expect a certain percent of any 600,000 people to die within 10 years...
2 posted on 08/20/2003 5:38:37 PM PDT by go star go
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To: go star go
Correct, but when there are a large # of them with liver and kidney problems, lymphomic disorders, neuorlogic issues and several other "maladies" that were all deployed into Iraq in '91 and in areas where there was NBC material discovered.....
Lost any buddies from these things?
Worry about your kid getting sick?
Hear doctors tell you that they just can't figure out what's going on?????

Then shut your yap.....
3 posted on 08/20/2003 5:59:32 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (The only thing criminals will get from me is a .45 bullet or cold steel... Their choice.)
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To: go star go
11 deaths out of 600 people in about 10 years is pretty high, especially if you consider the age range being much younger than the general population.
4 posted on 08/20/2003 6:00:07 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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To: cavtrooper21
shut your yap. just who do you think you are? fool!
5 posted on 08/20/2003 6:03:55 PM PDT by go star go
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
From a Gulf War vet:


END OF STORY. End of big fat lie.

6 posted on 08/20/2003 6:08:00 PM PDT by AAABEST
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How do you know this? Who died and made you the determiner of what exists and what doesn't exist?
7 posted on 08/20/2003 6:11:43 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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To: go star go
You are, of course, entitled to post whatever and whenever you want but I wish you would only do so after much thought and with the intention of adding to the discussion. There are just far too many people here on FR who specialize in being wise-a$$es just because the issue does not excite them.

The polite way to react to things you don't particularly care about is to simply ignore the story and move on to the next.
8 posted on 08/20/2003 6:15:40 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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To: go star go
Somebody who will carry the burns from "unknown" chemical exposure on his legs and arms for the rest of his life.
Somebody who has seen two friends wither and die from an "unknown" liver disease.
Somebody who worrys every day that there might be some genetic damage to my system, and will my son have to live with some problem for the rest of his life because I went to war????

Thats who I am, fool...
9 posted on 08/20/2003 6:18:26 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (The only thing criminals will get from me is a .45 bullet or cold steel... Their choice.)
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To: cavtrooper21
Sorry about your injuries, deaths of your friends, and your future worries about possible genetic damage.

Thank you so much for your service to our country, friend.

Since the figure of 11,000 was not broken down to specific causes of death, what do you think about this number? From what you know of this Gulf War Syndrome, does this reported figure of 11,000 seem accurate to you?

Best Regards.
10 posted on 08/20/2003 6:29:31 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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Since the bullet didn't hit you there must not have been a war?

Or are you among the paid detractors who spout "governmentease" so that we can pay for homes for Russian soldiers and aids meds for foreign nations but not foot the bill for meds for Vets who defended us?

Be mindful, "What goes around comes around." I would fear for them if you have any sons who will come of age to "soldier" in future. Your lack of mercy and your slavish adherence to false claims exposes your family to bizzare recompense when one contemplates the advise, "Do unto others....".
11 posted on 08/20/2003 6:38:50 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
I would think that the true number is lower, say around 9,000.
We were exposed to so many different pathogens while there that the true cause of death for some will never be dicovered.
It took 7 years and a host of different doctors, but my burns were labeled as "possibly resulting from exposure to low levels of desicated blister agent". My dermitoligist had treated cases in Iran. He's seen much worse. There is no way of finding out for sure, because the agent has long since faded, and there is no way of getting samples from the area that I think the exposure may have occured.
All 12 of us that were on the ground in that depot area have suffered some sort of skin problem. 10 of us have liver and kidney problems (mine aren't too severe, and have gotten better with treatment) and 2 of us are dead.
I would do it again, with out question. No thanks needed.
12 posted on 08/20/2003 6:42:47 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (The only thing criminals will get from me is a .45 bullet or cold steel... Their choice.)
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To: cavtrooper21
I am definitely more alert to this issue now. I will try to pay attention and find out more about it. Better late than never.
You, all veterans, and current troops are in my prayers and just wanted you all to know that there are people out there who are grateful for your service and sacrifice.

13 posted on 08/20/2003 6:58:04 PM PDT by Hyacinth Bucket
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