Skip to comments.Egyptian Jurists Sue 'The Jews' for Compensation...of Gold Allegedly Stolen During Exodus from Egypt
Posted on 08/21/2003 12:48:59 PM PDT by adam_az
The August 9, 2003 edition of the Egyptian weekly Al-Ahram Al-Arabi featured an interview with Dr. Nabil Hilmi, Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq who, together with a group of Egyptian expatriates in Switzerland, is preparing an enormous lawsuit against "all the Jews of the world." The following are excerpts from the interview: 
Dr. Hilmi: " Since the Jews make various demands of the Arabs and the world, and claim rights that they base on historical and religious sources, a group of Egyptians in Switzerland has opened the case of the so-called 'great exodus of the Jews from Pharaonic Egypt.' At that time, they stole from the Pharaonic Egyptians gold, jewelry, cooking utensils, silver ornaments, clothing, and more, leaving Egypt in the middle of the night with all this wealth, which today is priceless."
Question: "What will the group of Egyptians in Switzerland do about this issue?"
Hilmi: "Dr. Gamil Yaken, vice president of the Egyptian community in Switzerland, came to Egypt to collect information. We set up a legal team to prepare the necessary legal confrontation aimed at restoring what the Jews stole a long time ago, to which the statute of limitations cannot possibly apply. Furthermore, [the theft] is based on their holy book, the same source on which they relied when they invaded other peoples
"The Egyptian Pharaoh was surprised one day to discover thousands of Egyptian women crying under the palace balcony, asking for help and complaining that the Jews stole their clothing and jewels, in the greatest collective fraud history has ever known.
"The theft was not limited to gold alone. The thieves stole everything imaginable. They emptied the Egyptian homes of cooking utensils. One of the women approached Pharaoh, her eyes downcast, and said that her Jewish neighbor who lived in the house on the right of her house had come to her and asked to borrow her gold items, claiming she had been invited to a wedding The Jewish neighbor took [the items] and promised to return them the next day. A few minutes later, the neighbor to the left knocked on the door and asked to borrow the cooking utensils, because she was having guests for dinner. Using this same deceitful system, they took possession of all the cooking utensils "
Question: "It is clear why they stole the gold, but why the cooking utensils?"
Hilmi: "Taking posession of the gold was understandable. This is clear theft of a host country's resources and treasure, something that fits the morals and character of the Jews. Yet what was not clear to the Egyptian women were the reasons for stealing the cooking utensils, when other things may have been of greater value. However, one of the Egyptian priets said that this had been the Jews' twisted way throughout history; they seek to cause a minor problem connected with the needs of everyday life so as to occupy people with these matters and prevent them from pursuing them to get back the stolen gold...
"A police investigation revealed that Moses and Aaron, peace be upon them, understood that it was impossible to live in Egypt, despite its pleasures and even though the Egyptians included them in every activity, due to the Jews' perverse nature, to which the Egyptians had reconciled themselves, though with obvious unwillingness. Therefore, an order was issued by the Jewish rabbis to flee the country, and that the exodus should be secret and under cover of darkness and with the largest possible amount of loot. The code word was 'At midnight.' In addition, the Jewish women were told to steal the gold and cooking utensils of the Egyptian women, and that is what happened."
Question: "Did they leave individually or as a group?"
Hilmi: "They left in a convoy of 600,000, that is, about 120,000 families. There were a few wagons in the convoy, and a long line of donkeys loaded with the stolen goods They crossed the desert in the heart of Sinai, in an attempt to confuse Pharaoh's army, which was on their trail Later they rested and began to count the stolen gold, and discovered that it reached 300,000 kg of gold."
Question: "But the Jews can cast doubt on this story with their usual methods. What is the religious evidence you said is in the Torah?"
Hilmi:"Naturally, the Jews cast doubt on this story because that is in their interest. But the answer would be that the story is based on what is written in the Torah. It can be found in Exodus, [Chapter] 35, verses 12 through 36 "
Question: "So what arguments can be made in support of getting back our stolen gold?"
Hilmi: "There are two types of claims, one religious and the other legal. From a religious standpoint, all monotheistic religions have called not to steal It is also in the Ten Commandments, which the Jews were ordered [to observe]. Therefore, they have a basic religious obligation to return what was stolen, if it exists.
"From a legal standpoint, fleeing with the Egyptians' goods could be for the purpose of borrowing or for the purpose of stealing. If it is for the purpose of borrowing, legally it has a temporary dimension, not a permanent dimension, and therefore they must return [the gold], with interest, to its owners.
"On the other hand, if the Jews took the goods from the Egyptians not for the purpose of borrowing it but to keep them for themselves, by legal norms this is theft, and therefore they must return the stolen goods to their owners, in addition to the interest for its use over the entire period of the theft."
Question: "What do you think is the value of the gold, silver, and clothing that was stolen, and how do you calculate their value today?"
Hilmi: "If we assume that the weight of what was stolen was one ton, [its worth] doubled every 20 years, even if the annual interest is only 5%. In one ton of gold is 700 kg of pure gold and we must remember that what was stolen was jewelry, that is, alloyed with copper. Hence, after 1,000 years, it would be worth 1,125,898,240 million tons, which equals 1,125,898 billion tons for 1,000 years. In other words, 1,125 trillion tons of gold, that is, a million multiplied by a million tons of gold. This is for one stolen ton. The stolen gold is estimated at 300 tons, and it was not stolen for 1,000 years, but for 5,758 years, by the Jewish reckoning. Therefore, the debt is very large
"The value must be calculated precisely in accordance with the information collected, and afterward a lawsuit must be filed against all the Jews of the world, and against the Jews of Israel in particular, so they will repay the Egyptians the debt that appears in the Torah."
Question: "Is a compromise solution possible?"
Hilmi: "There may be a compromise solution. The debt can be rescheduled over 1,000 years, with the addition of the cumulative interest during that period."
'Johnny Cochran and Jesse Jackson wrap up their idea exchange to Egypt'
It's even worse than the 'slave reparations' BS in the USA.
MEMRI is the Middle Eastern affiliate "of The Onion".....
The entire Arab press (and Reuters) is the Mideast affiliate of "The Onion"
"If they swiped the loot, we must file suit." Talk aout a pyramid scheme....
"I built a pyramid for the E'gyp'yuns and all I got was a lousy t-shirt!"
Thanks for setting me straight -- and I'm not being sarcastic now...
Thanks for setting me straight -- and I'm not being sarcastic now...
Mohammed goes to B-school. Ya gotta love it ;)
Unlucky for the Jews, slavery is still legal under islam so the Jews will be unable to counter sue for reparations.
I got to this thread late. Islam still permits slavery so there will be no reparations.
Okay, guys, I've just been down in the basement and weighed all of the gold that was warehoused from the Great Egytian Heist and there's only 290,000 kg of gold items there. The Unseen/Unknown Overlords of the ZOG are going to be p*ssed if whoever borrowed it doesn't return it by the time of the next official audit
And don't tell me that it's been mis-labeled or mis-stored. I also checked the Templar Gold boxes, as well as the Aztec, Mayan, and Atlantis Treasure bins. On the off-chance that the UUO/ZOG had been playing in the Treasure Bath again and had forgotten to drain it, I looked there as well, but all I found there was the US Gold Reserves that we took from Fort Knox. So, folks, we have a slight problem.
And I can promise that, for a small gratuity, this "clerical error" will not come to the attention of the Grand Inquisitor.
Chief Auditor, Illuminati-Grade 13
Office of the UUO/ZOG
Aw, you stole my thunder. Exactly what I was about to post. What a crazy story.
It's not clear what court has jurisdiction and what Jews will be made parties (and a semantic point: The Bible speaks of the slaves liberated by Moses as "Hebrews", they don't become "Jews" until the Book of Esther about 500 years later). I doubt any European court would handle it (at least, handle it with a straight face) because no European country has as much as 10% of the world's Jewish population; the US has about 40%.
The same problem about who would be sued; there can be a class action of plaintiffs but not of defendants, each defendant is entitled to be an identified party so he receives the pleadings and has an opportunity to respond. Can we require that these Egyptians print and mail copies to each and every one of the defendants (namely, every one of the world's [approx] 12 million Jews)? Some of us (i.e. Jews and anyone who wants to claim to be descended from Jews) should come forward and insist on being named defendants, sent copies of the pleadings, and entitled to file pleadings of our own; the more the merrier.
Is a countersuit possible? For example, for the previous Pharoah having every newborn Hebrew boy killed?
Now there's an interesting thought. Of course, that brings up more complications such as plaintiffs proving their ancestry, location and that they did in fact have a newborn boy at the time, etc. Makes about as much sense as the other suit.
I agree - but then if they can do the 'other' one, they should be able to do the counter suit too.
Any thoughtful person who knows history and religion would be anti-Islam. Along with Communism, Naziism, and the Black Death, Islam has been responsible for more death and destruction on the face of the planet than just about anything else since the last asteroid impact. Islam was started by predators. It has spread by predation. It has lived off the decaying corpses of the civilizations it has destroyed. It is a vast, ancient sea of corruption, oppression, fanaticism, and ignorance lapping up against the shores of the present, kept alive by the fortuitous accident of living above huge reserves of petroleum.
Who cares... muslim definitions of legality/morality seem to change with the weather.
Yeah but even in the Koran it says there are specific verses and things that are changeable/retractable ... in order to be 'stumbling blocks' for the unbelievers.