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Why Liberals Hate Religion
Hour Eleven ^ | August 21, 2003 | Doug Hagin

Posted on 08/21/2003 8:01:22 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

Liberals seem to have a tough time deciphering certain portions of the writings of our Founding Fathers. Specifically, the Bill of Rights really seems to trip them up. For example, they read the Second Amendment protecting the right of the people to keep and bear arms to mean a right to carry a gun only if you are in the National Guard.

Now the fact that the National Guard did not exist at the time the Constitution was written does not faze Liberals, they simply dislike what the Bill of Rights says so they create a new definition for it. A definition, which suits their agenda of limited liberties instead of, limited government.

No amendment trips the Left up more often though than the very first one. Especially the first line of this Amendment. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

Now really this is pretty clear and extremely easy to understand. The Amendment prevents Congress from making any law favoring any specific religion while protecting our right to exercise whichever religion we choose freely.

Truly no free society could ever have it any other way. The First Amendment guarantees no American will be forced to financially support, or attend any establishment of religion. Yet Liberals have really missed the mark on this one.

To suit their meaning they have construed the First Amendment to mean no religion of any kind, especially Christian religions, in public at all. No Manger scenes at Christmas, no Ten Commandments in a government building, no teaching creationism in schools, no mentioning God anywhere but church or home. Of course this is asinine. The Founders were very clear in regards to the freedom of religion.

A town placing a Nativity scene on a courthouse lawn is not a violation of the Constitution. Nothing in the Constitution comes even remotely close to banning this. After all Congress, which the First Amendment prevents from making laws respecting an establishment of religion, has nothing to do with placing the manger scene there does it?

The same applies with teaching creation in schools. Certainly teaching the scientific evidence of Creation and discussing it with students neither curtails the free exercise of religion or forces an establishment of religion on the students.

Certainly a Judge, or any government official placing a copy of the Ten Commandments on the wall of his office is not an act of Congress either so that too is not a violation of our constitution.

Yet Liberal Judges and lawyers and Liberal activists have been allowed to twist and pervert the meaning of the First Amendment to ban any mention of religion in the public forum. They have done this simply to suit their ideology and vision of America.

This vision is one where God and any mention of Him are limited to the privacy of your home or to a church setting. To Liberals God does not deserve a place in our government at all. Despite the fact our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and despite the fact many of our Founders were believers who credited our Creator with the blessings of liberty.

Yet Liberals continue in their fervent desire to erase any mention of God, the Bible, or Christianity in our nation. Why do they campaign so eagerly for God to be escorted out of our schools, government, courtrooms, and public places?

Simply put God is not only our Creator but also the source of all liberty, and the source of our nation’s founding. The Founders made all this very, very clear. And this scenario my friends just does not match the Liberal utopian fantasy the Left wants America to be.

In Liberal think government, run by Liberals of course, is the sole source of liberty and the judge of how much liberty the people can be trusted with. God gets in the way of this since He is the true source of our freedoms. So Liberals must first push God out of the way before they can establish their god, government, as the Supreme Being.

Hence the steady campaign by the Left to remove God as far as possible from as many places as possible.

Now I am sure to get angry emails from God-fearing Liberals protesting this column. And surely there will be those who insist there is a separation of church and state which prevents public displays of religion. But here is the challenge to those well meaning folks. Tell me exactly which religion is established by posting the Ten Commandments or teaching creation? Tell me how Congress has respected an establishment of religion when these things occur?

The fact is I have asked many these questions and never received a satisfactory answer. The First Amendment is very clear and concise. Liberals just do not like what it says.


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1 posted on 08/21/2003 8:01:22 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
bump
2 posted on 08/21/2003 8:06:31 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Lando Lincoln
from an earlier post of mine:

The Liberal God - Government! The liberal god, big government:

Sin: Laws passed en masse for which you can be punished. Examples: Drinking too much, smoking in bars (California), rape, murder, theft, incest, having a garage sale without a permit, etc ad nauseum

If you sin/break law you will be punished. There are laws for every thing and we are watching!

Tithing: We will take a percentage of your income, the bigger the better, to build up our empire/churches. Examples: Money for forests, art, roads, military (as little as possible), family planning, to pay our priests, etc

if you fail to pay you will incur the wrath of your government

We know all!: We will watch you and know when you disobey/sin - we know all and see all. Examples: Databases, licensing, social security number, carnivore, phone records, an so on.

We will assign you each a 'guardian' angel/agent to watch over you, for your own safety of course!

You will worship us: You will come to places of worship and sign papers acknowledging our power. Examples: Come to the BMV to register your car, sign papers for when you work, get an ID, and so forth

By signing our paperwork you agree to the terms of living here and paying tribute to us. Failure to do so will be a sin and you will be damned. Acknowledge/Believe or else!

We will protect you: As your deity we will insure you are safe, unless you're a sinner of course!

Examples: We will stop your sinful smoking and drinking, make you wear seatbelts, put warnings on everything, we will spare nothing to insure the safety of children. We will think for you, after all we are superior and know better then you what is right and wrong!

Education: We will educate your children into our ways so they may be good servants...err citizens! Examples: Since we know best we will teach them what we feel and believe, regardless of what you teach them. Trust us....

Your faith is silly and the things you believe are wrong - so we will set your kids straight for you, no need to worry. etc, etc.

I often find people rejecting most faiths because they do not want to be made to feel guilty or that it is too restrictive (such as a fundamentalist's stand on abortion, homosexuality, etc and so on) - yet looking at what they propose I find them FAR MORE restrictive. They have passed more laws then we could pack into a Bible and call sins.

3 posted on 08/21/2003 8:08:28 PM PDT by chance33_98 (WWJD - What would Jefferson Do?)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Liberals do not like any one looking to any one else but to THEM for answers. That is why they want to eliminate our nation's religious heritage from the public square. If people see a mention of God, it might lead to dangerous thoughts. And that is why He has to be banned.
4 posted on 08/21/2003 8:09:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lando Lincoln
BTTT!
5 posted on 08/21/2003 8:12:48 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Our enemies within are very slick, but slime is always treacherously slick, isn't it?)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Why Liberals Hate Religion...easy - it asserts there is a being in the universe more intelligent and righteous than any one of them is.......
6 posted on 08/21/2003 8:29:57 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Lando Lincoln
Well that depends on what the definition of "is" is.

Newspeak is alive and well and has been since the 60's. If they can redefine it, they can take it away from you.
7 posted on 08/21/2003 8:30:28 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Their is nothing more evil in this world than a fallen god, man in his current state, trying to take the place of the God of all creation. Another creature tried that once, Lucifer, and he and 1/3 of the angels get to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire for this rebellion and transgression. Imagine how serious, disruptive, and destructive this is, that a loving God would have to give out such a harsh sentence. In God's perfect judgement, the punishment always perfectly fits the crime. The criminality of fallen man trying to usurp God's authority, is infinitely evil. Just look at Hitler, Saddam, and Arafat, and their total lack of even an ounce of feeling for other people's suffering, because their demonic ego in playing God will not allow it.
8 posted on 08/21/2003 8:34:16 PM PDT by Russell Scott (The whole creation groans in pain waiting for the manifestation of Christ's Kingdom)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Why Liberals Hate Religion?:

My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism.

Karl Marx

9 posted on 08/21/2003 8:35:08 PM PDT by two23
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To: Lando Lincoln
Liberals have no use for Religion because there is no money it for the State.

If they cannot tax it it offers them no way to derive income and or power from it.

10 posted on 08/21/2003 8:48:01 PM PDT by Kay Soze (Free Republic- a gathering place conservatism & even the "go along to get along Republicans".)
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To: two23
There it is; they want to destroy our way of life, and the demoralization of the people, via the destruction of their religion, is one fo their main goals to facilitate this.
Another is self-defense, to hamper the people's ability to fight back, hence their opposition to the Second Amendment.
In fact, for everything they say, do, or believe you can ponder and derive an ulterior motive that traces back to Marx and his principles.
11 posted on 08/21/2003 8:50:28 PM PDT by Marauder (If you drink, don't drive; don't even putt.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Liberals do not hate religion since liberalism/socialism is THEIR religion.

They are more like radical Islamists and want to stamp out all competition.

Too bad they don't strap bombs on themselves. They are so stupid they'd blow only themselves up.

12 posted on 08/21/2003 8:52:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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To: foreverfree
I thought Liberals denied God to conform to the Communist agenda. Minimizing religion and inculcating a dogma of truth-denial (political correctness) are standard tactics. The spread of terror by secret police usually comes next.
13 posted on 08/21/2003 8:55:05 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Complacency is the slowest poison.)
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To: goldstategop
Liberals do not like any one looking to any one else but to THEM for answers. That is why they want to eliminate our nation's religious heritage from the public square. If people see a mention of God, it might lead to dangerous thoughts. And that is why He has to be banned.

Well said. It would lead to questioning their own atheistic religion, God forbid.
14 posted on 08/21/2003 8:56:46 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned) (If history has shown us anything, labeling ignorance science, proves scripture correct)
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To: Fledermaus
You're exactly right, Batman. It is a question of competing religions, just as Christianity once fought Druidism in NW Europe.
15 posted on 08/21/2003 8:57:17 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Lando Lincoln
All the comments offered on this thread are partly true. But this is partly true, as well: Liberals hate religion because religion tells them that there is such a thing as wrong, that what they are doing is sometimes wrong, and that they are sinners, as are we all. It condemns their behavior. They don't like that. They want to lead truly liberal lives, with no right or wrong, no control over sexual or social behavior. As one of my acquaintance put it, "Without God, there is no reference point to define good and evil. There is only What I Like and What I Don't Like."
16 posted on 08/21/2003 9:00:13 PM PDT by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: Lando Lincoln; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
Ping. What says the Catholic Caucus?
17 posted on 08/21/2003 9:03:15 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Carindal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
POng
18 posted on 08/21/2003 9:04:18 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
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To: Capriole
AMEN!
19 posted on 08/21/2003 9:08:59 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: chance33_98
good post and interesting point that the liberals' god is big government. A radio program mentioned the same exact point and found 2 reasons why libs hate religion. 1. They believe that God doesn't provide certain inaliable rights for the government to protect, but that Big Government creates those rights, so bigger government means more rights. 2. They don't believe in any natural law of right and wrong, so they avoid any laws based on morals or religion and often write laws counter to the natural law. Of course, those who want the biggest governments, socialists, always seem to try to eliminate religion.
20 posted on 08/21/2003 9:11:33 PM PDT by patriot5186
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