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Group of Egyptians to Sue 'All Worldwide Jews' Over "Theft of Pharoah's Gold" (No Joke)
MEMRI (Middle East News Monitor/Translation) ^ | 9 August 2003 (in Arabic) | MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute)

Posted on 08/22/2003 6:13:30 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

Special Dispatch - Egypt August 22, 2003 No. 556 (Translated from Arabic Language Sources)

Egyptian Jurists to Sue 'The Jews' for Compensation for 'Trillions' of Tons of Gold Allegedly Stolen During Exodus from Egypt

The August 9, 2003 edition of the Egyptian weekly Al-Ahram Al-Arabi featured an interview with Dr. Nabil Hilmi, Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq who, together with a group of Egyptian expatriates in Switzerland, is preparing an enormous lawsuit against "all the Jews of the world." The following are excerpts from the interview: (1)

Dr. Hilmi: "... Since the Jews make various demands of the Arabs and the world, and claim rights that they base on historical and religious sources, a group of Egyptians in Switzerland has opened the case of the so-called 'great exodus of the Jews from Pharaonic Egypt.' At that time, they stole from the Pharaonic Egyptians gold, jewelry, cooking utensils, silver ornaments, clothing, and more, leaving Egypt in the middle of the night with all this wealth, which today is priceless."

Question: "What will the group of Egyptians in Switzerland do about this issue?"

Hilmi: "Dr. Gamil Yaken, vice president of the Egyptian community in Switzerland, came to Egypt to collect information. We set up a legal team to prepare the necessary legal confrontation aimed at restoring what the Jews stole a long time ago, to which the statute of limitations cannot possibly apply. Furthermore, [the theft] is based on their holy book, the same source on which they relied when they invaded other peoples...

"The Egyptian Pharaoh was surprised one day to discover thousands of Egyptian women crying under the palace balcony, asking for help and complaining that the Jews stole their clothing and jewels, in the greatest collective fraud history has ever known.

"The theft was not limited to gold alone. The thieves stole everything imaginable. They emptied the Egyptian homes of cooking utensils. One of the women approached Pharaoh, her eyes downcast, and said that her Jewish neighbor who lived in the house on the right of her house had come to her and asked to borrow her gold items, claiming she had been invited to a wedding... The Jewish neighbor took [the items] and promised to return them the next day. A few minutes later, the neighbor to the left knocked on the door and asked to borrow the cooking utensils, because she was having guests for dinner. Using this same deceitful system, they took possession of all the cooking utensils..."

Question: "It is clear why they stole the gold, but why the cooking utensils?"

Hilmi: "Taking possession of the gold was understandable. This is clear theft of a host country's resources and treasure, something that fits the morals and character of the Jews. Yet what was not clear to the Egyptian women were the reasons for stealing the cooking utensils, when other things may have been of greater value. However, one of the Egyptian priests said that this had been the Jews' twisted way throughout history; they seek to cause a minor problem connected with the needs of everyday life so as to occupy people with these matters and prevent them from pursuing them to get back the stolen gold...

"A police investigation revealed that Moses and Aaron, peace be upon them, understood that it was impossible to live in Egypt, despite its pleasures and even though the Egyptians included them in every activity, due to the Jews' perverse nature, to which the Egyptians had reconciled themselves, though with obvious unwillingness. Therefore, an order was issued by the Jewish rabbis to flee the country, and that the exodus should be secret and under cover of darkness and with the largest possible amount of loot. The code word was 'At midnight.' In addition, the Jewish women were told to steal the gold and cooking utensils of the Egyptian women, and that is what happened."

Question: "Did they leave individually or as a group?"

Hilmi: "They left in a convoy of 600,000, that is, about 120,000 families. There were a few wagons in the convoy, and a long line of donkeys loaded with the stolen goods... They crossed the desert in the heart of Sinai, in an attempt to confuse Pharaoh's army, which was on their trail... Later they rested and began to count the stolen gold, and discovered that it reached 300,000 kg of gold."

Question: "But the Jews can cast doubt on this story with their usual methods. What is the religious evidence you said is in the Torah?"

Hilmi: "Naturally, the Jews cast doubt on this story because that is in their interest. But the answer would be that the story is based on what is written in the Torah. It can be found in Exodus, [Chapter] 35, verses 12 through 36..."

Question: "So what arguments can be made in support of getting back our stolen gold?"

Hilmi: "There are two types of claims, one religious and the other legal. From a religious standpoint, all monotheistic religions have called not to steal... It is also in the Ten Commandments, which the Jews were ordered [to observe]. Therefore, they have a basic religious obligation to return what was stolen, if it exists.

"From a legal standpoint, fleeing with the Egyptians' goods could be for the purpose of borrowing or for the purpose of stealing. If it is for the purpose of borrowing, legally it has a temporary dimension, not a permanent dimension, and therefore they must return [the gold], with interest, to its owners.

"On the other hand, if the Jews took the goods from the Egyptians not for the purpose of borrowing it but to keep them for themselves, by legal norms this is theft, and therefore they must return the stolen goods to their owners, in addition to the interest for its use over the entire period of the theft."

Question: "What do you think is the value of the gold, silver, and clothing that was stolen, and how do you calculate their value today?"

Hilmi: "If we assume that the weight of what was stolen was one ton, [its worth] doubled every 20 years, even if the annual interest is only 5%. In one ton of gold is 700 kg of pure gold - and we must remember that what was stolen was jewelry, that is, alloyed with copper. Hence, after 1,000 years, it would be worth 1,125,898,240 million tons, which equals 1,125,898 billion tons for 1,000 years. In other words, 1,125 trillion tons of gold, that is, a million multiplied by a million tons of gold. This is for one stolen ton. The stolen gold is estimated at 300 tons, and it was not stolen for 1,000 years, but for 5,758 years, by the Jewish reckoning. Therefore, the debt is very large...

"The value must be calculated precisely in accordance with the information collected, and afterward a lawsuit must be filed against all the Jews of the world, and against the Jews of Israel in particular, so they will repay the Egyptians the debt that appears in the Torah."

Question: "Is a compromise solution possible?"

Hilmi: "There may be a compromise solution. The debt can be rescheduled over 1,000 years, with the addition of the cumulative interest during that period."

Endnote: (1)Al-Ahram Al-Arabi (Egypt) August 9, 2003.

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To: AmericanInTokyo
Amicus Curitae briefs have been written on their behalf by the following parties, pursuant to the issue at hand.

Al Sharpton
Jesse 'Hymietown' Jackson
Cynthia McKinney, Visiting Professor, Cornell Univ.
21 posted on 08/22/2003 6:50:38 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The Problem With Socialism Is That You Eventually Run Out Of Other People's Money - Lady Thatcher)
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To: .cnI redruM
Next up on the Docket:

Arabs Sue for Intellectual Property Rights Infringement concerning the Alphabet and Mathematics!

Story at Eleven.

22 posted on 08/22/2003 7:15:49 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: madison10
From the New American Stantard:

Exodus 12

35 (1) Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing;

36 and the LORD had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have their request. Thus they (2) plundered the Egyptians

If the egyptians persue this, at somepoint they are going to have to admit to the whole world that their ancestors weren't very sharp or indeed there is a God in Isreal.

23 posted on 08/22/2003 7:19:23 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: rod1
Might have to hock the pyramids??

I doubt it.

Were it not for interest in the pyramids by outsiders, those sandmaggots would have dismantled them long ago, and left not a trace.
To them it's just a draw for suckers and victims.
And the idiots keep coming.

24 posted on 08/22/2003 7:22:42 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Ranxerox
Amicus Curitae briefs have been filed by the following individuals...

James Zogby
Cornell West
Baghdad Bob ("There are no Americans at the Baghdad Airport. We have tread upon their bellies like they were used chewing gum.")
25 posted on 08/22/2003 7:27:32 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The Problem With Socialism Is That You Eventually Run Out Of Other People's Money - Lady Thatcher)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
But then, there have been MANY Jubilee years since then in which all debt is forgiven.
If they want to argue using the Bible, they need to look a little further while writing their claim... Too bad they can't get a Jewish lawyer, he might help them win the case.
26 posted on 08/22/2003 7:41:46 AM PDT by The Brush
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To: The Brush
darned good points there.
27 posted on 08/22/2003 7:54:14 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (We should have prioritized **NORTH KOREA**, not IRAQ. Can you spell 'mission creep'?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I believe that that gold was a small tip for 400 hundred years of forced labor. The bill, to be payed in full to God has yet to be payed but it as been turned over to the collectors.
28 posted on 08/22/2003 7:55:50 AM PDT by fella
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To: AmericanInTokyo
How does one say "The ONION" in Arabic???

29 posted on 08/22/2003 8:38:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: Elsie
not sure. there probably is an online english-arabic dictionary that would have that
30 posted on 08/22/2003 9:00:07 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (We should have prioritized **NORTH KOREA**, not IRAQ. Can you spell 'mission creep'?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Riiiight.
I let my slaves borrow my jewelry and cooking utensils all the time!
31 posted on 08/22/2003 9:09:01 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Not to mention the fact that it was the Muslims from the Arabian peninsula that conquered Egypt (and the entire Mideast) and plundered it. If the native Egyptians (whatever those are, ha ha ha, considering that Rome and Greece both had a significant presence there) have any claim, the most recent claim is against the Muslim invaders. The Muslim invaders have no claim at all against anyone for anything that happened to the land they conquered before they conquered it. The Jews were just getting back pay for 400 years of slavery. The Muslims plundered a civilization. Typical crap from this bunch of crooks, though. Which is why I said:
Any thoughtful person who knows history and religion would be anti-Islam. Along with Communism, Naziism, and the Black Death, Islam has been responsible for more death and destruction on the face of the planet than just about anything else since the last asteroid impact. Islam was started by predators. It has spread by predation. It has lived off the decaying corpses of the civilizations it has destroyed. It is a vast, ancient sea of corruption, oppression, fanaticism, and ignorance lapping up against the shores of the present, kept alive by the fortuitous accident of living above huge reserves of petroleum.

32 posted on 08/22/2003 9:22:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I hate to break it to ya people - but this lunacy is just an indication that time is running out. Jesus is at the door; and may possibly be turning the knob at this moment.

The Bible is explicit - I believe it clearly states that the Egyptians were so fearful of the Jewish GOD, they forced their wordly goods on the Jews, just to get rid of the Jews and stop the plagues.
33 posted on 08/22/2003 4:07:33 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: CyberAnt
good point. good Biblical reference, too
34 posted on 08/23/2003 6:40:54 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (We should have prioritized **NORTH KOREA**, not IRAQ. Can you spell 'mission creep'?)
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To: drstevej
That's okay, just countersue for 400 years of bondage.
35 posted on 08/23/2003 6:47:15 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: thathamiltonwoman
***That's okay, just countersue for 400 years of bondage. ***

The Egyptian position is that the bondage was consentual.
36 posted on 08/23/2003 6:56:43 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Of course it's a joke, although an extremely flatfooted one.

The idea is to wait for the public storm of outrage and disbelief to hit a peak, and then say, "You're right, suing to reclaim gold taken in the Exodus is crazy. We were kidding, but only to make a point. So how do you feel about the Jews grabbing Palestine... based on some equally obsolete property right?"

No idea is too dumb for undermining Israel.
37 posted on 08/23/2003 12:26:02 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: tictoc
The Egyptian people are well aware the Bible says GOD gave the land from the Egyptian River (the Nile) to the Euphrates (in Iraq), to the Israeli people.

Egypt should be grateful Israel has not bombed them back to an empty desert.
38 posted on 08/23/2003 2:51:56 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thanks!

In the movie "Ten Commandments", where Charlton Heston played Moses, the movie protrayed that scene. It showed several very rich people giving away their possessions to the Jews - and telling them to take the stuff and leave them alone. This was scripturally accurate.
39 posted on 08/23/2003 4:14:04 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thanks!
40 posted on 08/23/2003 4:14:04 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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