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On WFLA Tampa now - Terri Schiavo review is denied
WFLA | August 22, 2003 | WFLA

Posted on 08/22/2003 12:07:52 PM PDT by I still care

Just heard on Tampa Radio news WFLA Terry Schiavo's review has been denied - the original judge will now set a time to pull Terri's feedings and start starving her...

God help a country where this is countenanced.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; euthenasia; legalmurder; schiavo; schiavo2003; terri; terrischiavo; terryschiavo
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1 posted on 08/22/2003 12:07:53 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
Sick
2 posted on 08/22/2003 12:09:17 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: I still care
Thank you Florida Supreme(?) Court
3 posted on 08/22/2003 12:10:48 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator
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To: AAABEST; Joe Brower
pre-meditated MURDER Ping
4 posted on 08/22/2003 12:12:26 PM PDT by TonyWojo
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To: I still care
can I get synopsis of what this about?
5 posted on 08/22/2003 12:14:49 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (carpe ductum)
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To: I still care
Sick, sick sick. The state in its infinite wisdom will starve a human being to death at the behest of her sob husband.

I don't believe in the law any more. It's all bs.

6 posted on 08/22/2003 12:16:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Ecept for the drug laws, right?
7 posted on 08/22/2003 12:17:19 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: I still care
The judge that made the ruling should be the one to personally pull her feedings and start starving her.
8 posted on 08/22/2003 12:18:35 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: coloradan
Actually dipstick I have supported the decriminalization of pot laws for quite some time. But now I'm thinking of changing my position because of horses hindquarters like you.
9 posted on 08/22/2003 12:19:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: unix
I wish I had heard the name of the court that denied it, just came in on the end. But for a synopsis, here is Terri's website.

http://www.terrisfight.org/
10 posted on 08/22/2003 12:20:38 PM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care
More on her situation is here. Apparently her husband has been living with another woman, who he will marry after Terri's death, and he will inherit what remains of Terri's medical fund, and he has sole and exclusive control over her medical care. Her husband has been trying to kill her for some time and it looks like he will succeed. Disgusting!
11 posted on 08/22/2003 12:22:36 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: coloradan
A thread on the state affirming the starving death of an innocent woman and you're kind of libertarian idiot thrusts drugs into it.

You're a sick libertarian Colorado. Get some freakin help!

12 posted on 08/22/2003 12:23:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: I still care
God help a country where this is countenanced.

I am sure God countenanced keeping people alive indefinitely in a nightmarish comatic state through the use of medical technology.

As a matter of fact, hardly anyone needs to die anymore. All we have to do is hook the dying up to a bunch of tubes and wires and they can practically live forever, in a total vegetative state.

Yes, I am sure that is what God countenanced.

13 posted on 08/22/2003 12:23:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: I still care
I grieve for a nation where deciding whether or not to starve a disabled woman to death is seen as a difficult choice. I am disgusted by one where the agreed-upon answer is 'yes.'
14 posted on 08/22/2003 12:23:48 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: I still care
Where is Jeb Bush when he is needed ?

He has remained silent on the issue as far as I know.

15 posted on 08/22/2003 12:23:50 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hub allways hogs the bad guys)
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To: I still care
This is terrible. I am just speechless.
16 posted on 08/22/2003 12:23:54 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: I still care
Her family can still defy the judge and "kidnap" her. If they can get her to a state where her sicko husband has less influence, then maybe they can save her life.
17 posted on 08/22/2003 12:23:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: jwalsh07
It's the drugs.
18 posted on 08/22/2003 12:25:28 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Your ignorance of Terry Schiavos case is awe inspiring.
19 posted on 08/22/2003 12:26:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Your ignorance of Terry Schiavos case is awe inspiring.

Your hysterical self-righteousness is frightening.

20 posted on 08/22/2003 12:28:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: I still care
I am going to get in trouble for this, but I disagree with you guys on this. For one thing the husband is her next of kin. Secondly, what is wrong with humanely letting someone go in her state?

I watched my brother take his wife off of life support after 2 years of grueling cancer treatment. Yes, we could have kept on going and trying to keep her alive, but if you would have seen what condition she was in, there was no other choice. Within 30 seconds of pulling her off of the ventilator, she passed on. She is now in heaven, no more suffering.

On the other side of the coin, her family would not have allowed my brother to pursue any medical treatment for her at all, if they had the choice to make. They were of a religious sect that believes you will be cured by God if you have asked for forgiveness for all of your sins. If you are not being cured, you must be holding on to something.
21 posted on 08/22/2003 12:31:34 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
She is not in a coma. She responds. She is aware of many things.

Her husband constantly denies medical treatment for her, such as antibiotics, hoping she will die.

He has never allowed her to have any kind of therapy, and works hard to keep stimulation at a minimum for her, so she will not recover at all. The family has had many doctors in who feel she will substantially improve with therapy, he will not allow it.

This is not just pulling the plug on an unconscious woman on a machine. She breathes on her own. She is not in pain.

The husband is living with another woman and has a child by her. The parents are fixated on trying to help their daughter, and he is fixated on putting her in her grave.

The question is, if her mother and father see their daughter as precious, and want to spend resources, money and time, loving and caring for her, why does he want her dead SO badly?

22 posted on 08/22/2003 12:34:12 PM PDT by I still care
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To: unix
Synopsis HERE - http://becki-snow.blogspot.com/
23 posted on 08/22/2003 12:36:41 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: I still care
It seems alot of people are afraid to look on the links to see exactly what is going on here.
I think anyone who saw the videos would know this woman is not in a coma.
That and the lack of rehabilative care she has been denied by her husband
although he has the money for this I think would change alot of minds.
24 posted on 08/22/2003 12:37:23 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I'm hoping you're speaking from ignorance (curable) and not stupidity (terminal).

This case has more twists than an anabolic pretzel and BTW she is not in a "coma". Check out this amazing video here.

25 posted on 08/22/2003 12:38:15 PM PDT by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: I still care
Thank you for that additional information. Does the husband have life insurance on his wife?
26 posted on 08/22/2003 12:38:18 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
She's not comatose - she tries to talk to her mother, she breathes on her own, and she smiles when people she knows walk in the door. She is a living, breathing human being who only needs help being fed because they FORCED her to use a feeding tube - and now they will starve her to death because they say she can't feed herself.

If "unable to feed self" is the new determining factor for coma, then Christopher Reeves, babies, and all pets are in comas, too...
27 posted on 08/22/2003 12:39:49 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: ican'tbelieveit
she was awarded a big settlement for malpractice that was to be used for her care that he hasn't used.
When she dies he gets it all.
28 posted on 08/22/2003 12:40:16 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: ican'tbelieveit
what is wrong with humanely letting someone go in her state

What, exactly, IS her "state"? It certainly seems to differ according to the person you ask. The fact that the court won't even review the case is troubling in and of itself. If (big if, of course) this is indeed an attempted murder, with the help of the state authority, who exactly would prosecute it?

29 posted on 08/22/2003 12:40:48 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: CONSERVE
Which court denied the request of the parents? They can always appeal to a higher court.
30 posted on 08/22/2003 12:41:55 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit
It's not a question of "letting her go" - she's not on a ventilator. It's a question of deliberately refusing to feed an aware and responsive woman who is too disabled to hold a spoon to feed herself.

It's going to take a couple of weeks for her to starve to death, because she is in reasonable physical health. Of course, she'll die of thirst first, as the nurses and staff stand around watching. I wonder if they'll bother to avoid eye contact.
31 posted on 08/22/2003 12:43:41 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I think this is a different situation than your sister in law. Cancer is a terminal, progressive disease. This is from a one time injury.Therapy has actually been withheld from this woman to prevent her from improving.

I saw this done in a hospital once to an elderly woman. The nurses were all upset. She had a stroke, but with a feeding tube was starting to improve. She smiled and tried to talk to you.

Her doctor told us he actually prescribed too thick a mixture to go down the tube, so it would have to have it pulled. He did this on the instructions of the family. The nurses hated him behind his back, but it was all legally done.

After a few days she grew weaker and died. The head nurse cried when she died, from frustration. She said to me, "She could have gotten better, but they didn't want her to."

She left quite a bit of money to her family.

32 posted on 08/22/2003 12:44:49 PM PDT by I still care
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To: CONSERVE
What the hell is wrong with the Florida Supreme Court?

I don't know the details of what's going on, but if this woman can respond to other people, starving her to death is murder.

I mean, where are the doctor's? Isn't this against the Hipocratic (sp?) oath?
33 posted on 08/22/2003 12:47:52 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Hit the link in post # 10 it will explain it all.
34 posted on 08/22/2003 12:49:02 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: I still care
This is horrible.
35 posted on 08/22/2003 12:49:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; Land of the Irish; MHGinTN; Mr. Silverback
ping
36 posted on 08/22/2003 12:50:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
What would happen if we marched on the hospital? Why can't we do a sit-in and demonstrate when they try to kill her? There has to be some sort of response that will get their attention...
37 posted on 08/22/2003 12:52:01 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: I still care
What was the movie where that black guy holds a hospital hostage until they treat his son? I wouldn't mind seeing something like this happen here.
38 posted on 08/22/2003 12:52:15 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: I still care
Your arguments are rational. First of all, not all cancers are terminal. Secondly, lots of people die from one time injuries.

But, saying that, I am not saying what this man is doing is right. Please remember when people post, they may not know all the little details. I did not. I just saw lots of people slamming a husband.
39 posted on 08/22/2003 12:53:03 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit
That should be: your arguments are not rational.
40 posted on 08/22/2003 12:53:30 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
That is not this case! She is not in a coma. She is not in a persistent vegitative state. She has been denied medical care. Before her husband lost a huge lawsuit, he said he was taking her home and caring for her. After he got all the money he could, then he ``remembered'' she wanted to die.
41 posted on 08/22/2003 12:53:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Please read more about this case. Terri is not on life support or in a coma. She has communicated with her family, but she has not been allowed medical treatment. Her husband said he was going to take her home and care for her when he was suing the hospital. Then when he got all the money he could, he ``remembered'' she wanted to die-which he never remembered before.

Also, there is evidence that he put her in this state. A murderer should not be allowed to legally finish his crime- and control all evidence of his crime.

42 posted on 08/22/2003 12:57:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: jwalsh07
Your ignorance of Terry Schiavos case is awe inspiring.

Heck I never heard of it before either!

43 posted on 08/22/2003 12:57:55 PM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: dandelion
That's a good idea.
44 posted on 08/22/2003 12:58:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: coloradan
More on her situation is here. Apparently her husband has been living with another woman, who he will marry after Terri's death, and he will inherit what remains of Terri's medical fund, and he has sole and exclusive control over her medical care. Her husband has been trying to kill her for some time and it looks like he will succeed. Disgusting!

He is a sick POS and so is that judge for allowing this.

I have heard of this story, but I didn't follow it very closely .. after watching the video of her from a link posted above .. IMO what this judge is doing is murder

45 posted on 08/22/2003 12:58:19 PM PDT by Mo1 (I still hate Liberal Democrats)
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To: I still care
Also, I hate to ask this, but I notice this is taking place in Clearwater, FL. Does anyone know if any of the principles in this story are involved with Scientology?
46 posted on 08/22/2003 12:59:42 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: nickcarraway
Before her husband lost a huge lawsuit, he said he was taking her home and caring for her. After he got all the money he could, then he ``remembered'' she wanted to die.

I have a question .. with the bone juries to her .. why was her husband never brought up on charges? .. Didn't the police investigate this?

47 posted on 08/22/2003 1:01:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (I still hate Liberal Democrats)
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To: Mo1
Sickening...aint it? Her husband should be brought up on charges for neglect and Jeb should step in and do something.
48 posted on 08/22/2003 1:02:49 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: jwalsh07
I didn't thrust "drugs" into it, but rather "drug laws." You're the one who said you "don't believe in the law anymore." I'm just reminding you that you support "the law" after all - because, apparently, some laws are more equal than others. I'm sorry that this inconsistency causes you so much distress, but I'm merely the messenger.
49 posted on 08/22/2003 1:04:57 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: ladtx
Rather, it's the laws.
50 posted on 08/22/2003 1:05:59 PM PDT by coloradan
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