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Was McClintock on Hardball?

Posted on 08/22/2003 4:56:05 PM PDT by Paul8148

I only caught the start and Chris did not preview him being on.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: groundhog; madclintock; runover
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1 posted on 08/22/2003 4:56:06 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: Paul8148
Who cares? He's polling at 4%.
2 posted on 08/22/2003 5:03:29 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Paul8148
Bob Barr was a few moments ago...... Will that help?
3 posted on 08/22/2003 5:04:41 PM PDT by deport
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mcclintock stunk up the joint

i'm nearly as annoyed with him as i am at simon--not quite, just because the latter should know better than to think he's electable and blew it for us once already
4 posted on 08/22/2003 5:05:40 PM PDT by dwills
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To: Paul8148
I couldn't believe it they are still going with the same "Field Poll" from a week or more ago!! They can't let that one go, even though it was the ONLY ONE with Arnold losing and the polls since them show Arnold ahead, too!
5 posted on 08/22/2003 5:15:05 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: Paul8148
He was great and knows the details of how to streamline government. He knows what agencies could be combined to prevent duplication and cut costs. He knows what company killing regulations to eliminate to make businesses come back or grow. He has a long list of what he'll do.

I wish Arnold and Simon would drop out and let McClintock run. He is some one who could really fix this state.

6 posted on 08/22/2003 5:19:48 PM PDT by Angel
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To: annyokie
That's right, support the pro-abortion, pro gay rights, pro gun control, no specifics and no details liberal RINO!

You people are so infatuated with Arnold, you've lost all credibility!

7 posted on 08/22/2003 5:22:19 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Angel
I wish Arnold and Simon would drop out and let McClintock run. He is some one who could really fix this state.

I agree.

8 posted on 08/22/2003 5:23:05 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Reagan Man
I'm guessing you didn't watch the press conference on Wednesday?
9 posted on 08/22/2003 5:25:53 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: annyokie
You assume wrong. Arnold doesn't impress me.

And btw, have you tried to find an Arnold for Governor website? LOL There is one which calls itself, the official AS website. Except, just like the candidate, it offers no specifics and no details.

That should come as no surprise to you, since Arnold has already said, he won't release any economic policy agenda until after the recall election. What a joke!

10 posted on 08/22/2003 5:30:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Paul8148
This one is almost as bad as the last one
11 posted on 08/22/2003 5:38:55 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Paul8148
I particularly liked #10
12 posted on 08/22/2003 5:41:22 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: annyokie

After being run over by the electorate in 2002, MadClintock supporters remain hopeful for the lifetimer politician

13 posted on 08/22/2003 5:52:15 PM PDT by carbon14
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To: spongebob58
Mr. McClintock just picked up my vote......


TRANSLATION: Your vote will REALLY BE GOING TO Bustamonte
15 posted on 08/22/2003 6:02:33 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Paul8148
To preclude you from making a new post hours from now asking.......

McClintock is on Hannity and Colmes now.

16 posted on 08/22/2003 6:05:45 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Reagan Man
And btw, have you tried to find an Arnold for Governor website? LOL There is one which calls itself, the official AS website. Except, just like the candidate, it offers no specifics and no details.

There is an official campaign site run by Schwarzenegger.com (Arnold's entertainment site). It is http://www.joinarnold.com.

17 posted on 08/22/2003 6:09:49 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: SunStar
If you click on the Schwarzenegger.com link at the bottom of the joinarnold site, you will get some more details, including a list of the people on his economic committee.
18 posted on 08/22/2003 6:14:09 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Reagan Man
http://www.joinarnold.com/
19 posted on 08/22/2003 6:18:50 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Miss Marple; annyokie
Look You folks are from Oklahoma and Indiana why do you keep telling us Californians who to vote for?

Look I was born in LA and live here... used to work in Hollywood an the studios... I live within walking distance of the Norwalk Recorder office were you saw Arnold on TV file.. I wouldn’t walk across the street to see these people... because they offer nothing of substance... yet I’ve go people on the other side of the country telling to vote for them.

... You people are star struck .... I’m trying to save my home... Im trying to save jobs .... and you people are all gaga over these people

20 posted on 08/22/2003 6:59:45 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: BonnieJ
I couldn't believe it they are still going with the same "Field Poll" from a week or more ago!! They can't let that one go, even though it was the ONLY ONE with Arnold losing and the polls since them show Arnold ahead, too!

I only heard of one poll since the field poll. My understanding of the first polls is that they allowed respondents to pick more then one canidate. Not that I can justify why Hardball ignored the latest poll which has Arnold back on top.

Does anyone know of other polls that have come out since then?

21 posted on 08/22/2003 7:01:14 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Angel
I wish Arnold and Simon would drop out and let McClintock run. He is some one who could really fix this state

Look guys, I too like Tom better then Arnold. But unless he starts polling well enough that he might have a shot as the election gets near, I am voting for the Terminator as a pratical matter.

Although I have nothing personal against Simon, he is essentialy one of the two real conservatives--the one that would not do as well as McClintock--so I at least agree he should drop out.

22 posted on 08/22/2003 7:05:38 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: tophat9000
I am not trying to tell anyone what to do. I simply told SunStar how to get more information!

No need to be so sensitive, tophat! I freely admit I can't vote, but I am interested in this election because it affects the entire country.

Vote for whom you wish.

23 posted on 08/22/2003 7:07:37 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: BonnieJ
Arnold losing and the polls since them show Arnold ahead, too!


Outside of the PPIC poll which other ones are you referring to? Got any links? Numbers?

Thanks
24 posted on 08/22/2003 7:09:51 PM PDT by deport
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To: Paul8148
I saw Mr. 4% on Hannity, He's cross eyed? I didn't know that, could be the reason he is still in the race, he thinks he's at 40 and not 4%.
25 posted on 08/22/2003 7:11:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tophat9000
You aren't trying to save sh*t. You are grandstanding and/or showboating.

I lived 32 years of my young life in California and I'll be GD if you McClintock-bots are going to tank my home state for your stupid purist ideals.
26 posted on 08/22/2003 7:13:53 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Miss Marple
Was he on? How did he do assuming you saw the performance?
27 posted on 08/22/2003 7:20:16 PM PDT by deport
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To: Paul8148
I wish the McClintock vs Schwarzenegger warriors would chill out.

If McCintock appears to be electable as Oct 7 arrives lets vote for him--because he's a solid conservative with a good handle on the fiscal crisis in California. On the other hand, if it shapes up to be Bustamante vs Schwarzenegger lets choose the best of the two--(Schwarzenegger by a long shot).

Moaning and screaming at each other gains nothing.

28 posted on 08/22/2003 7:20:41 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: deport
I didn't see him. Hubby had a movie on.
29 posted on 08/22/2003 7:22:23 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
...Miss Marple I'm not trying to dog anyone but you got to admit a lot of people with no dog in the fight are telling us what to do..... ...

I remember when this state was a great place and I KNOW just how far in the toilet its gone....we need radical change .........not a lite version of more of the same................. Arnold not it!

I’m most likely off to Nevada to start over if things don't change and soon... and there a lot more behind me ...........

30 posted on 08/22/2003 7:27:04 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: deport
I'm not sure of the poll, or polls, sorry. I caught part of the panel segment today on Brit Hume's show & they were talking about Arnold gaining 10 points or more since his press conference.
31 posted on 08/22/2003 7:40:16 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: AndyTheBear
Well, take a gander on who got the animus started in this thread.
32 posted on 08/22/2003 7:40:47 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: AndyTheBear
I understand your position of voting for Arnold if that's the only way a Republican can win.

My concern is - Having a Republican with Democratic views (willing to raise taxes, lots of social programs, etc.) won't fix the state. We need less regulation, lower taxes to get business back. If we don't get that, the CA economy won't get better and people will decide, why vote Republican?

.I haven't decided what I'll do, we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks. I must admit I would rather the recall fail than get Bustamante. He's a communist that wants CA to be given back to Mexico.

33 posted on 08/22/2003 7:43:23 PM PDT by Angel
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To: annyokie
I lived 32 years of my young life in California and I'll be GD if you McClintock-bots are going to tank my home state for your stupid purist ideals.

Hey I’ve lived all 47 of my years of my life in this state and I still here....

An I'll be GD if im going to vote with some one with no f---ing idea what to do like Arnold just to get a Republican in!

............... dont give me that purist crap....I dont give a flying f—k about Arnold social idea....

What I don’t need is Arnold... “for the children crap!”..........we need some one with a plan....

To give you a clue how pure I am the only other person I would I vote for right now is the the former female Democrat controller of the state if she was run..and she a pro chose feminist ....she also got a game plan very similar to McC...... and that would be over Simon or Uberoth

Purist.. I would vote for a dem with an clue over Arnold if it help this state!

34 posted on 08/22/2003 7:56:35 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: BonnieJ
they were talking about Arnold gaining 10 points or more since his press conference.


Thanks... that is what I was wondering if there were polls taken since the press conference. I'm sure they will show up soon in the media...... This is going to be a fast mover... only 45 days till the election.... Money and media will be the driving force.... not much time to put together door to door campaigns.....
35 posted on 08/22/2003 7:56:54 PM PDT by deport
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To: tophat9000
Geez, have a cocktail and use your spell-check. Calm down, already.

Waste your vote, WTF do I care? I don't live there anymore. Make my elderly parents pay more in taxes. Feel good about it, too!

Vive Bustamonte!
36 posted on 08/22/2003 8:16:13 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Angel
I wish Arnold and Simon would drop out and let McClintock run. He is some one who could really fix this state

Ditto.

37 posted on 08/22/2003 8:18:08 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Reagan Man
That's right, support the pro-abortion, pro gay rights, pro gun control, no specifics and no details liberal RINO!

Why is the Left afraid of Arnold?

38 posted on 08/22/2003 8:21:09 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Why is the Left afraid of Arnold?)
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To: tophat9000
.. You people are star struck .... I’m trying to save my home... Im trying to save jobs .... and you people are all gaga over these people

The "stars" as you have deemed them, are voting aginst Arnold. Just like you.

39 posted on 08/22/2003 8:25:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Why is the Left afraid of Arnold?)
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To: SunStar
Yep. JoinArnold.com. That's the website I was talking about.
40 posted on 08/22/2003 9:17:45 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: BunnySlippers
>>>Why is the Left afraid of Arnold?

May be its due to the fact, that Arnold has an "R" next to his name.

If Arnold had a "D" next to his name, they would luv Schwarzenegger. He's a self-professed social liberal and says he's a fiscal conservative. But Arnold won't release any details of his economic plan for California. Voters can't properly judge a candidates economic agenda, without hearing the specifics of his economic plan. Arnold has said, he has no intention of revealing any details, until after the recall election. That's if he wins it.

41 posted on 08/22/2003 9:41:05 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: annyokie
Make my elderly parents pay more in taxes.

That’s the point!

Arnold going to raise taxes ...I'll bet on it .. Pete Wilson ...A Republican.. raised taxes big time.... and is a major player in Arnold campaign... then add in Buffet.... another raise taxes guy

Then Arnold’s “I want to take care of the children, I want to take care of the old people, I want to take care of everyone, I want to bring jobs back to the state so we can have the taxes to pay for this”..... Come on folks this was the first thing out of the guy’s mouth

If you were an out of state company would you trust this guy or this state.... would you move here?

Come on you have got to have something more than he’s a Republican and can win

We’re not doing this recall because Gray's a Democrat.....it’s because the state is in big trouble and Gray ideas suck ....if Gray was a Republican he would still suck .....so I’m not going to vote for Arnold just because he’s a Republican and can win.... if his ideas also suck..... totally blind party loyalty no matter what is dumb ...it will destroy you and the party and the state

For pete sake at least make Arnold work a little for your vote... hold his feet to the fire just a bit....

You don’t think Buffet put prop 13 on the table on his own do you?... if there was no screaming from “purest” ... ... it would still be out there...( my gut instinct tell me it will be again)

Give me something more than Arnold's a Republican and can win....don't just roll over for him

42 posted on 08/22/2003 9:47:59 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: tophat9000
>>>For pete sake at least make Arnold work a little for your vote... hold his feet to the fire just a bit....

I've been telling folks around here that exact same meesage now for two weeks. They still don't get it and I doubt they ever will.

I wish you and all conservative Republicans in California the best of luck in the recall election outcome. Tom McClintock would make a fine Governor, but unless theres a drastic change in events, it looks like you'll be electing another liberal Governor. Schwarzenegger or Bustamonte.

43 posted on 08/22/2003 10:23:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Angel
It is absolutely essential NOT to have Bustamante. He is a radical who wants to give California back to Mexico. He has NO plan on how to deal with why businesses and individuals are leaving the state. I will move to Georgia from Northern California by the end of October so I can still vote in the recall election. Hope all those who stay speak Spanish. I have not decided who to vote for but if if it looks close between Arnold and Cruz right before the election, I will definitely choose Arnold.
44 posted on 08/22/2003 10:43:09 PM PDT by ted1003
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To: tophat9000; annyokie
Look You folks are from Oklahoma and Indiana why do you keep telling us Californians who to vote for?

Look I was born in LA and live here... used to work in Hollywood an the studios... I live within walking distance of the Norwalk Recorder office were you saw Arnold on TV file.. I wouldn’t walk across the street to see these people... because they offer nothing of substance... yet I’ve go people on the other side of the country telling to vote for them.

... You people are star struck .... I’m trying to save my home... Im trying to save jobs .... and you people are all gaga over these people

That's the best post I've seen all day... well done! I'm sure this pretentious "Triangulator" Republican hacks like annyokie would be screaming their head off about state's rights if we were trying to tell them the must vote for a liberal in OK or they are a traitor to the party. (Course we wouldn't care because they are in flyover country. Just kidding! *mostly*)

But the fact remains, these people are actively campaigning for someone who is not up to the extrodinarily difficult task of taking over this mess right now. He offers us nothing but benal populist platitudes, no promises, and dumb jokes. But because (R)nold Buffet has an 'R' in his name these RNC Minions try to shout us down for being so uppety.

Its like living in the Twilight Zone dealing with all these "conservatives" on a Conservative website. Actually its alot like an X-Files episode...


45 posted on 08/22/2003 10:52:25 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: ted1003
It is absolutely essential NOT to have Bustamante. He is a radical who wants to give California back to Mexico. He has NO plan on how to deal with why businesses and individuals are leaving the state.

No arguement here...do you honestly believe this dead man walking has a snowball's chance in hell?


46 posted on 08/22/2003 10:59:35 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: Reagan Man
The thing is ...I WAS an Arnold supporter ...

Hell the day he announced he was running I went to the bar and drank a toast in celebration.... because I knew Gray was dead...

I knew Arnold on social issues.. but I assumed about the fiscal side..................

Then I watched who joined his campaign.... listens to what Arnold said and what he didn’t say.........

Its been one “O crap!” after another

I know the Arnold supporter believe.... but whenever you ask what does he stand for, what’s his plan, what he going to do,

The answer is always the same:

“He a Republican and he can win”

I’ve got a Dem uncle like that... you could run a door knob as a Dem and he vote for it .... no questions asked

If people would make Arnold work a little for there support they might get something... its like people are handing him a blank check

47 posted on 08/22/2003 11:59:46 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: AndyTheBear
Although I have nothing personal against Simon, he is essentialy one of the two real conservatives--the one that would not do as well as McClintock--so I at least agree he should drop out

Wow! I didn't know how much infuence I had.

48 posted on 08/23/2003 9:21:18 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Saundra Duffy
One more time...if it's between McClintock and Bustamante...Bustamante wins. What part of that don't you understand?
49 posted on 08/23/2003 9:22:47 PM PDT by Hildy (u)
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To: Hildy
One more time...if it's between McClintock and Bustamante...Bustamante wins.

Wishful thinking?

BTW, did you see that Arnold appointed a new adviser today? Univision chairman and anti-187 activist A. Jerrold Perenchio.

50 posted on 08/23/2003 9:28:49 PM PDT by Roscoe
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