Confronting Terrorist Gangs and Their Apologists-Daniel Pipes and struggle for cultural dominance

TCS ^ | 08/22/2003 | Lee Harris

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[veronica]

That graphic is a keeper.

[Brian Allen]

Wow.

Bump/Ping!

[Brian Allen]

<< That graphic is a keeper. >>

That sentence is the understatement of the year!

[cricket]

Just knowing who are the 'enemies' of Pipes, is enough to convince me that I am 'pro' Pipes. . .and I am distressed that Bush has withdrawn his nomination. . .

Also agree that Islam, indeed, has it's angels as well.

That said, there is a definitive and qualitative difference between the Southern 'thing' vs Islam.

Southern culture is not a 'religion and that 'culture' was not being exported around the world with messianiac fervor as Islam is currently being spread and carried by it's believers.

Southern culture did not have 'missions' and goals. Yes, the KKK extracted from Christianity, it's 'mission'; but with or without the current 'terrorist' realities, there still remains embedded in the fine Islamic traditions are ideas that do not easily 'meld' into western culture;

. . . and ideas that lend themselves easily to a 'zealotry' is not easily understood or contained.

As for Daniel Pipes, I hope his wisdom will be continue to be shared, appreciated/valued and that his voice will continue to rise above those who would silence him.

[cricket]

sorry, proofed to quickly. . . Just knowing who are the 'enemies' of Pipes, is enough to convince me that I am 'pro' Pipes. . .and I am distressed that Bush has withdrawn his nomination. . . Also agree that Islam, indeed, has it's angels as well. That said, there is a definitive and qualitative difference between the Southern 'thing' vs Islam. Southern culture is not a 'religion and that 'culture' was not being exported around the world with messianiac fervor as Islam is currently being spread and carried by it's believers. Southern culture did not have 'missions' and goals. Yes, the KKK extracted from Christianity, it's 'mission'; but with or without the current 'terrorist' realities, there still remains embedded in the fine Islamic traditions, ideas that do not easily 'meld' into western culture; . . . and ideas that lend themselves easily to a 'zealotry' that is not easily understood or contained. As for Daniel Pipes, I hope his wisdom will be continue to be shared, appreciated/valued and that his voice will continue to rise above those who would silence him.

[cricket]

Saturday morning and I am making a mess of this!!!

Enjoyed your post, nonetheless.

[VOA]

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[SJackson]

I am distressed that Bush has withdrawn his nomination. . .

Don't be distressessed. Recess appointments, if Clinton can use them, so can GWB

Bush names scholar Pipes to U.S. Institute for Peace

[q_an_a]

Good post especially with the pictures.

[cricket]

"Don't be distressessed. Recess appointments, if Clinton can use them, so can GWB"

. . .good point; the option is there at least, interesting to see if he uses it.

[SJackson]

He did it, he gave Pipes a recess appointment.

[Gritty]

Indeed, Islamic culture... has its better angels...

Oh, really? Where in the entire world is there any evidence of this?

Wherever Islam predominates, there is religious persecution, war, personal and political bondage and little of what we Westerners would call "human rights" as there is no such concept in Islam.

Islam has no "better angels", only degrees of demonic ones. It is a scourge wherever you find it and always has been.

[mrustow]

Problematic analogy. Islam isn't a culture, it's a religion. The American South was an area, not a religion.

[cricket]

"He did it, he gave Pipes a recess appointment."

. . .well, good decision; had not heard that. This should bring on the collective moan/whine from the Dems.

[okie01]

And what is the left's objection to Pipes, exactly.

Does it have to do with his (wholly accurate) explanation of why the left is usually leading cheers for the terrorists?

[Capt. Tom]

I don't like the authors comparison of the KKK to the Muslims.

The KKK does what they decide to do as mere mortals. The Muslims do what God wants done. Big difference. - Tom

[GatekeeperBookman]

The modern Klan in no way resembles the original. It was given birth ( & a degree of legitimacy ) when many ordinary folk were oppressed-under a military occupation. There were also vast differences among the Klan chapters-even from one county to another. But any one who is young, or not careful to study the subject may be forgiven this common error-the Klan was/is not a homogonous monolith.

A comparison ( of the new or the old Klan ) to Islamic lunatics is absurd-although the explanation of the mechanism of a mask is valid.

[GatekeeperBookman]

It is indeed a poor analogy-I think the man seeks to wrap himself in the false robes of an indignant Southerner. Shallow-cheap way to buy favor from the reader-by renowncing his fellow Southerners.

By the way, The South is still a region-not an area...