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Celebrities (mostly liberal) who are terrible tippers
Bitter Waitress ^ | 8/23/03 | ILMH

Posted on 08/23/2003 9:34:42 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband

*Natalie Portman - (loc.)Boston (#in party)2 (amt/tip)$27.00/$3.00 (tip %)11%

*Tom green (loc.)Los Angeles (#in party)5 (amt/tip)$175.00 /$15.00 (tip %)8%

*Serena and Venus Williams (loc.)Boston (#in party)12 (amt/tip)$280.00 /$20.00 (tip %)7% *********

*Madonna (loc.)New York (#in party)4 (amt/tip)$120.00 /$10.00 (tip %)8%

*Natalie Merchant (loc.)New York (#in party)2 (amt/tip)$108.00 / $8.00 (tip %)7% ******

*Allen Iverson (loc.)Detroit (#in party)5 (amt/tip)$495.00 / $50.00 (tip %)10%

*********Tipper's Name: Serena and Venus Williams Restaurant: Italian Where it happened: Boston Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $280.00 / $20.00 / 7% What happened: They came in with coaches managers and groupies....ordered things that were not on the menu only drank a strict 40% water 60% cranberry juice mixture and very rudely snapped their fingers for water refills (they had played that afternoon). The manager payed one bill and tipped well the groupies payed the other and left only 20 bucks. They were awful, and when they got the bill had us split it 12 ways and denied ever ordering half the things their fat asses just ate! Never again if these two walk in will i jump to serve them and their group of 12- 14 aunts uncles cousins neighbors and any or all other groupies that walk around kissing their asses!

******Tipper's Name: Natalie Merchant Restaurant: Campagna Where it happened: New York Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $108.00 / $8.00 / 7% What happened: Not to mention all the shit she got for free that night from the evil owner of this now defunct B-list celeb shit hole


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To: Beelzebubba
The % concept discriminates against people who cannot get jobs in upscale restaurants or who live in poorer areas with no trans to work, and bust their ass for 1/10th of what the elite waiters get.

I think sometimes with fine dining upscale restaurants, the diners take much longer (low table turn-around) and the waiters actually might make more in a fast turn-over cheaper place where people just come, eat, and leave. The same table might have 5 different parties in a cheaper place and only 1 or 2 at the expensive place. Some of the lower scale diners can bring in enough money for the staff.

151 posted on 08/24/2003 10:27:17 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: CaptSkip
Do you really think that the server is some kind of "slave to bring you gifts"??? Lord I hope your pulling my chain.

You are either deliberately misunderstanding or you are a moron. The gift is the tip, given FROM me TO the server, not the other way around.

In fact, dictionary.com defines 'gratuity' as: A favor or gift, usually in the form of money, given in return for service... Something given freely or without recompense; a free gift; a present.

Now, having established that a tip is a gift, I assert that nobody has a *right* to a gift. Beggars can't be choosers.

152 posted on 08/24/2003 10:34:13 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Keyes2000mt
I'm sorry, but complaining that Allen Iverson "only" left a $50 tip is a tad ridiculous. If everyone's spending $100 a meal there and the average customer is tipping $10 per meal, the waiter is probably clearing $300-$400 a day which isn't bad.

First, I don't believe you've ever waited tables before because the tips are split between the hostess, bartender, busboy and wait people. Second, if you have a large party, usually 6 or more, they usually occupy more than one table in your section, therefore, lowering the number of checks of which you're getting a percentage. If you have 2 large parties that think 8-10% is a decent tip for a large check...you see my point. BTW-more expensive establishments usually assign smaller sections (less tables) to ensure the customers never have to wait for anything--the 15-20% of a larger check will make up for the smaller number of customers. I think that a diner knows the expectations when he chooses to eat at a restaurant with service. If he doesn't want to compensate for the service, then he should go somewhere he can serve himself.

153 posted on 08/24/2003 10:38:00 AM PDT by sandlady
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To: sandlady
And the upscale restaurants turn the tables over at a much slower pace. I worked as a waitress in many four star places in college. Some places I had to pull the meat out of the lobster, make banannas foster (yes, with a live flame!), dip fresh pineapple wedges into hot chocolate sauce to serve with the check, etc. I had a 3 table section and had to jump through hoops for the mostly miserable and rich (what's wrong with that combination?!) customers.
154 posted on 08/24/2003 10:43:09 AM PDT by riri
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To: Tall_Texan
I admit I have problems with places that are generally self-serve buffets. Why should the server be tipped the same 15-20% if *I'm* the one fetching the food and delivering it to the table?

I did not wait tables at a buffet style restaurant but I think 10% is acceptable there. Same for cocktails. Is this right, anyone?

155 posted on 08/24/2003 10:46:10 AM PDT by sandlady
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To: sandlady
Generally, that's what I do - for an $8-10 buffet, I leave a dollar tip. But I don't always feel right about it.
156 posted on 08/24/2003 10:48:10 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime1.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's latest column.)
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To: CaptSkip
Why would the percentage change over the years? The prices of the food has gone up so the tips have risen also.

I always thought 10 - 15% was standard unless the service was very bad, so you might leave less, or great, so you might leave more. I was a waiter while in college, by the way.

157 posted on 08/24/2003 10:53:39 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Tall_Texan
I usually eat at Chinese buffets where you serve yourself, but there are servers who clear your plates and bring you drink refills. I always leave $3-4 tip( and thats for a place that charges no more than $8-11, lunch or dinner), AND use the napkins to clean the table of any spills or crumbs. ( Especially when eating with toddlers!)I think that's just considerate.

I am a female who did that kind of work as a teen. I know how hard and thankless it can be- especially with big groups.
Guess I go against the stereotype again!
158 posted on 08/24/2003 11:01:28 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky
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To: ClearBlueSky
Well, toddlers are more of a challenge! OTOH, if all the server's interaction with me is to bring me a beverage and hand me the check, it just doesn't seem worth the same as someone who takes my order, brings my beverage, brings my food, checks to see if I need anything else (dessert?), brings my check and handles the transaction as opposed to having me walk up to the cash register.

Obviously, if my party has completely trashed the area or been an ungodly nightmare, I'd be more sympathetic. But I'm rarely with kids and, when I am, they've been well-behaved or they don't go out to dinner.
159 posted on 08/24/2003 11:11:04 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime1.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's latest column.)
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To: undeniable logic; Fraulein
It is hypocritical, for those with left-leaning political ideals to consistantly tip low

This professor (tipped $1) is a Marxist liberal who has written 3 books on Marxist critical theory!

I personally find liberals to be hypocrites on just about everything. "Say one thing and do another" seems to be their motto in life.

Further, if you try to do a business deal with a liberal or democrat, you should start with the assumption that they are not telling you the whole truth and are trying to cheat you. You need to do extra due diligence if you even suspect they are a democrat. This is my personal experience.

With conservatives or republicans, I find the business negotiations are tough, but are on the up and up.

I think liberals as a people may be screwed up in the head and it is not just that I don't like their ideology. For most liberals, I don't like them as people and all this discussion about how they screw people when tipping, does not surprise me at all.

160 posted on 08/24/2003 11:21:40 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Hildy
from reading this thread I have summised the following are poor tippers: Blacks, Jews, Indians, French Canadians, Asians, Europeans, athletes, Movie stars, rock stars, single women and Senior citizens. Well, I guess we've finally come up with something that young white men are still the best at!

I am going to agree with that. When it comes to generosity on any level, the white american male will usually come out on top.

I disagree that asians, single women and athletes are bad tippers. They are not good or bad. These are mostly middling tippers, about 15%.

161 posted on 08/24/2003 11:33:27 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: auggy
Are you a bad tipper?

I consistently tip between 15 and 20 percent. I have been known to leave a penny for really, truly horrible service though.

I think its a conspiracy. But then again, everything is.

162 posted on 08/24/2003 11:33:52 AM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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To: Nam Vet
Whenever a server mentions a tip to me, I tell them, "Plant yer corn early this year". :)

I also love it when I give someone a hundred for a 20 dollar bill and the waiter asks, "do you need change ?"

163 posted on 08/24/2003 11:35:27 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: CaptSkip
Your surly attitude reminds me of waiters I've had from time to time.

They, and you, won't be getting a tip from me if their lives depended on it.

I don't suffer fools or arrogant waiters well, and if my only recourse is no tip, well, I'm more than eager to do my part.

164 posted on 08/24/2003 11:40:03 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (REAL men aren't Liberals)
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To: wardaddy
good manners are taught.

I think good manners are about having respect for other people's space and privacy. I don't think tipping is about manners. Tipping is a custom that does vary in different countries, over different eras and over different occupations. Not tipping correctly is about either a lack of knowledge to the custom or about can be about being cheap.

For most things, if you respect other people, you will mostly have good manners.

165 posted on 08/24/2003 11:44:55 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
Respect is given unless actions merit the removal of it...then it must be earned.

I think tipping as is customary is good manners ...just my opinion.
166 posted on 08/24/2003 11:51:32 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: auggy
Willie Nelson "Now there's a man with class"

Too Bad he is a socialist.....
167 posted on 08/24/2003 12:06:38 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Sprinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......)
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To: Tall_Texan
I admit I have problems with places that are generally self-serve buffets.

I know what you mean. However, My wife worked at one before we were married
Her stories of generally poor tips, having to clean up after the slobs that frequented the place convinced me that even though the server didn't actually bring me my food I would tip at least customarily.
Unless the service is unusually bad I leave at least 15%.

Watch them sometime. They usually 'bus' also.

168 posted on 08/24/2003 12:18:40 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: cmsgop
I was only trying to be funny. I thought ,if you were a bad tipper, that was the reason your computer crashes at Bitterwaitress'.

Not funny! Maybe next time.

169 posted on 08/24/2003 1:07:11 PM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: strela
I was only trying to be funny. I thought ,if you were a bad tipper, that was the reason your computer crashes at Bitterwaitress'.

Not funny! Maybe next time.

170 posted on 08/24/2003 1:19:12 PM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: auggy
LOL!
171 posted on 08/24/2003 1:25:35 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Sprinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I delivered pizza and chicken delight for 5 years in my car that I repaired myself when it broke down. You cannot say that, can you?

Actually I delivered pizza's for about a year. The car did not break down but I did the maintenance on the things I could and took it to a mechanic to do the things I couldn't. It was from tips that I kept my car running. That's why I was so vehement about people who stiff drivers. A waitress invests time on a customer, a driver actually has "spent" their own money to deliver whatever. I'm sure you know that.
172 posted on 08/24/2003 2:49:29 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (You should clean your monitor screen, I can hardly read it.)
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To: ThinkFreedom
Still, with all their left wing views, you'd think they'd show the working class some respect.

Actually, the further left they get, the more they seem to think of the little people as their personal slaves, there to do their bidding, because they know what's best for the great unwashed masses. All the while proposing that what they are doing is to make life better for the working class. As long as they don't have to live like the working class, or be treated like them. Afterall, they are sooo much better. They just want to help the working class, why won't the working class let them?

173 posted on 08/24/2003 3:12:55 PM PDT by fortunecookie (longtime lurker and new poster)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
I wonder how many of these low tippers started out, themselves, as waiters/waitresses hoping for that the tip money would help make their earnings more livable. Funny how quickly people forget. Or want to feel so important that they have to make someone else feel or seem worse.
174 posted on 08/24/2003 3:17:54 PM PDT by fortunecookie (longtime lurker and new poster)
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To: staytrue
I personally find liberals to be hypocrites on just about everything.

I agree with you 100%.

175 posted on 08/24/2003 5:26:53 PM PDT by Fraulein (TCB)
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BTTT
176 posted on 08/24/2003 10:12:21 PM PDT by Fraulein (TCB)
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To: justlurking
Penn is the only one that talks (in public).

I got dragged up on stage one night in Vegas to staple Teller to a chair. He talked to me when I stapled his ass down good. They said staple his collar and cuffs but I got his pants, coat, shirt, and socks, heck I would have had his shoes down if he hadn't said anything.

He had tensed his arm when I went to fasten him down so I couldn't get the cloth to wrap tightly around his limbs. He had incredible arms but if you use your knee to leverage him down, well he's not that strong.

So, he's mocking me on stage while I'm pulling the staples from his suit (cheap Sears thing if I remember correctly), so I wouldn't spoil the act.

Marvelous entertainers, Unusual politics.

At the end of the show, they ran to the exit and shook everyone's hands as we exited the theater.

Their show BullSh*t on Showtime is pretty good as well. Man did they skewer the rats on Global Warming and also on genetically modified foods.
177 posted on 08/25/2003 12:12:50 AM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Hildy
Is Penn the short or the fat one?

He is the LOUD one.
178 posted on 08/25/2003 1:07:25 PM PDT by AdA$tra (Hypocricy is the Vaseline of social intercourse....)
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To: Mr. Mojo
How about Hillary? Didn't she leave some waitress at a diner a couple cents in upstate NY during her campaign? ....

Actually, I think she left no tip whatsoever, but I could be wrong.

179 posted on 08/25/2003 1:13:10 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: jwh_Denver
Well SAID. I started "moonlighting" as a pizza driver when we put our youngest into private school.

The logical conclussion is Tip More when the roads are BAD.

Don't punish the "Pizza Driver" for the Blizard.
180 posted on 08/25/2003 9:29:41 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: fortunecookie
In My experience, folks who have worked for tips ARE NOT the problem.
Those raised on Wellfare, and those whose Parents SIGNED FOR their tips {rather than leaving $$$ on the table}; are the core deadbeats.
181 posted on 08/25/2003 9:36:48 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: PizzaDriver
The logical conclussion is Tip More when the roads are BAD.

Bad weather was not really a problem because we would shut down if the roads were bad and getting worse. Only once did I tell mgmt "It's not worth it to deliver a pizza when I could very easily get into a car crash, run into a ditch etc."

The way I looked at was "how much would pay someone else for the convenience of not having to get off your fat arse, drive down and pickup the pizza yourself?" When I knew I was delivering to a notorious stiffer I would take a handful of pennies and after being stiffed I would sprinkle the pennies on their front doorstep. Now the mgmt of the pizza place was dead certain that you did not complain to the customer about getting stiffed and even though I never got "caught" what could mgmt say? I could say "Hey, I figured they needed the money more than I did so I gave them some?"
182 posted on 08/25/2003 11:28:51 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Some people have no heart to give and they wonder why they are so miserable.)
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To: PizzaDriver
Good point. Yeah, looking back to when I earned tips, I'd have to say that was pretty much true for me too. Hadn't bothered to think of it like that before, you hit the nail on the head.
183 posted on 08/26/2003 4:33:51 AM PDT by fortunecookie (longtime lurker and new poster)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
i love these threads
184 posted on 08/26/2003 5:30:15 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (When I am asked what my political preference is, I answer "Christian".)
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To: staytrue
Tipping is one of those "social graces" that Liberals DON'T expect our schools to teach. Unfortunately, It is a grace they, mostly, don't teach their kids.

Liberal Theory is "all jobs SHOULD pay a living wage". Liberals tend to ignore the Fact that "wait staff" and "food delivry" jobs DON'T {unless supplimented with tips}.

LIBERALS want a perfect world, But pretend this has been Achieved. Ergo, They tend to be poor tippers. Their {trapped} followers, the WELFARE SET have little spare money, and no clue.

TEACH your kids when & what to tip.
Guide younger co-workers in this Grace.
185 posted on 08/28/2003 10:59:40 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; Criminal Number 18F
I cannot believe that this wasn't posted. (Quentin Tarantino's next movie, Kill Bill, is the only movie anyone needs to see this year.)
EDDIE All right. Everybody cough up some green for the little lady.

Come on. Throw in a buck.

MR. PINK Uh-uh. I don't tip.

EDDIE You don't tip?

MR. PINK No - I don't believe in it.

EDDIE You don't believe in tipping?

MR. BLUE You know what these chicks make? They make s**t.

MR. PINK Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.

(Mr. Blonde laughs.)

EDDIE I don't even know a f***ing Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me just get this straight. You don't ever tip, huh?

MR. PINK I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip, if they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically is for the birds.

(Eddie laughs.)

I mean as far as I'm concerned they're just doing their job.

MR. BLUE Hey, this girl was nice.

MR. PINK She was OK - but she wasn't anything special.

MR. BLUE What's special, take you in the back and **** **** ****?

(They laugh.)

EDDIE I'd go over 12% for that.

MR. PINK Hey Look, I ordered coffee, right? Now we've been here a long f****n time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times

MR. BLONDE Six times? Well, you know, what if she's too f*****g busy?

MR. PINK Words "too f*****g busy" shouldn't be in a waitress' vocabulary.

EDDIE Excuse me, Mr. Pink - the last f*****g thing you need's another cup of coffee.

MR. PINK Jesus Christ - I mean these ladies aren't starving to death. They make minimum wage. You know, I used to work minimum wage. And when I did, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job society deemed tip-worthy.

MR. BLUE You don't care they're counting on your tips to live?

(Mr. Pink rubs two of his fingers together.)

MR. PINK You know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.

MR. WHITE You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.

MR. PINK So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them, do you? Why not? They're servin ya food. But no, society says don't tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That's bulls**t.

MR. WHITE Waitressing is the number one occupation for female noncollege graduates in this country. It's the one job basically any woman can get and make a living on. The reason is because of their tips.

MR. PINK (pauses) F**k all that.

(They all laugh.)

MR. BROWN Jesus Christ!

MR. PINK Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's f***ed up. That ain't my fault. It would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government f**ks in the a*s on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college b******t you're giving me, I got two words for that: "Learn to f****n type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big f****n' surprise.


186 posted on 08/31/2003 3:17:18 PM PDT by Archangelsk ("Toss in a buck ya cheap bastard, I paid for your g**damn breakfast." Joe)
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