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To: CtPoliticsGuy
There is some validity to that theory. I don't see the blodd-letting in the streets quite yet, but there is less and less civility in our political debate and more of what seems to be chicanery every year.

I could see us up against a major constitutinal crisis.
2 posted on 08/24/2003 10:56:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The Problem With Socialism Is That You Eventually Run Out Of Other People's Money - Lady Thatcher)
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To: .cnI redruM
There is some validity to that theory. I don't see the blodd-letting in the streets quite yet, but there is less and less civility in our political debate and more of what seems to be chicanery every year.

I could see us up against a major constitutinal crisis.


I think you're right. Maybe I've done too much gaming in role playing games like The Morrow Project, Gamma World, and Twilight: 2000, basically, "after The Bomb" genre, but I do forsee a time when the United States will most likely shatter into autonomous, semi-autonomous, or even sovereign nations each set up to their own flavor. Being an alternate history junkie, I did a search on the term "Balkanized America Map" and I got this link: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/misc/balkanus.htm

It's sort of a "what-if" the Constitutional Convention of 1787 fell apart. I can see something like this in our future although you might have different nations because I foresee this happening in the future whereas the "point of divergence" was in 1787 here.

It seems like as time goes on, the discussions get less civil and more of a warlike flavor and there are many times I think that Walter Williams' article in 2000 on secession is becoming more attractive as time goes on. In short, I think we need a divorce. If the left wants homosexual marriage, rip out religion, and other sundry things they believe in, let them, but they should just have their own country while we have ours. I really don't feel comfortable talking about this, but I think this idea may have to be discussed otherwise I do feel we are headed to a huge loggerhead here.
13 posted on 08/24/2003 12:21:07 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: .cnI redruM
The Texas Demoncats have shown their willingness to destroy the political system by refusing to participate. They tear the fabric to shreds, in order to attempt to hold power.

This is a very frightening thing. We are at a precipice.

I fully expect to see physical force employed by the Left in the near future-all the more reason for Mr. Bush to amend his policies & act like he really cares-close the borders, cut the size of government, talk & act like a conservative.

He will need all the support he can find when social constraint fails-and it already shows signs of weakness.
23 posted on 08/24/2003 4:58:49 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (impossible and radically idealist notions; strict constructionist; prickly; quarrelsome.)
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To: .cnI redruM
I think we are already there...post Constitutional America. Look up the below titled post.

How Tyranny Came to America

29 posted on 08/24/2003 8:51:13 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: .cnI redruM
I think we are already there...post Constitutional America. Look up the below titled post.

How Tyranny Came to America

30 posted on 08/24/2003 8:51:42 PM PDT by lawdog
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