France: No proof Hamas and Islamic Jihad are terror groups

Jerusalem Post ^ | 8/25/03 | Jerusalem Post

[Elkiejg]

France voices objections to placing Hamas and Islamic Jihad on the European Union's list of terror organizations, ynet reported Monday.

Diplomatic advisor to President Chirac, Maurice Gourdault-Montagne, is quoted to have said to the Israeli ambassador in France, Nissim Zvilli, that there is no proof that these two organizations are terror groups. "If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand," said Gordo. "However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

Over the weekend, Zvilli met with Gordo, said to be Chirac's right-hand man, as part of Israeli lobbying efforts to include the two Palestinian organizations on the EU terror list. Two months ago, the EU added the Al Aksa Martyrs' Brigades and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestinian to its list, enabling European countries to freeze these groups' assets, and impose other sanctions upon them.

France, according to Gordo, is opposed to placing both Hamas and Islamic Jihad on the EU terror list, and believes Israel ought to deal with its terror threats through political, rather than military, channels.

Israeli Foreign Ministry officials expressed outrage at the French position. "Such an attitude is one of criminal negligence. It refuses to assume responsibility over the war against terror, and thus legitimizes terrorism."

[Elkiejg]

The frenchies do it again.

[goldstategop]

The smelly Frogs who lost 10,000 in a recent heat wave. They're not fit to wipe their own rear ends.

[zarf]

It's French willfull, anti-Semitic ignorance like this, that leads me to fervently hope that a large bomb goes off in Paris - if that's what it takes to wakes these bastards up.

[ZinGirl]

a pre-emptive surrender? "plese don't hurt us......we'll be on your side!"

[widgysoft]

Perhaps if Hamas went around targeting French nationals they'd think differently.

On second thoughts they probably wouldn't.

[goldstategop]

10,000 dead French men is no big deal to the French government. Who cares if there are dead Jews? On with the "peace process!!!"

[hellinahandcart]

"If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand," said Gordo. "However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

How about, when a group takes credit for a terrorist attack, you believe them?

"However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

That's your entire problem right there, Gordo.

Try some clarity, you'll like it...

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Pres. Bush has said that countries who provide aid and comfort to terrorists will be treated just like the terrorists themselves . . .

[goldstategop]

It brings to mind Ann Coulter's famous rant after 9-11 that we should invade France. Any chance Rummy can spare a division to get the job done??

[Fighter@heart]

"a pre-emptive surrender" You nailed it right on spot!! The French are destined to "surrender" themselves into history. What vile chicken-feces they are. When the muslim
faction in France starts "acting up" that's when it will be important to them. Important, but much too late!

[DoughtyOne]

France: No proof brain cells exist inside it's borders. Oh yes, there are some tourists. I forgot!

I take it back. They're in France by choice. Hah hah hah...

[Sen Jack S. Fogbound]

It wouldn't take a division! LOL

[DoughtyOne]

I think we have a couple of girl scout troops available, but we can probably get by only sending one and holding the other in reserve.

[Congressman Billybob]

In reply, I say only that there is no proof that France is a civilized nation. There level of national dishonesty is truly astounding. La France, c'est le merde.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "In the Justices We Trust?" posted on FR, other publication to come.

[mystery-ak]

I read this headline while sipping a cup of coffee...I almost spilled and burned myself....

[Ippolita]

PING!

[wunderkind54]

Ze French believe what zey want to, and are more inclined to believe this farce if it also sticks a finger in the eye of the American pig-dogs.

[DainBramage]

Spokesman for the Islamic Jihad reacted angrily saying "Of Course we are terrorists,

the idiot French pig dogs are sons of cheese eating monkeys!"

"Why do they think we take credit for all bus bombs and killings of children?"

[governsleastgovernsbest]

A whole division to defeat France? I would think a leather-lunged platoon standing at the border and shouting "boo!" could comfortably get the job done.

[Bluntpoint]

German artists find France a quaint retreat:

[big'ol_freeper]

Perhaps the time will come when it is time for "regime change" in France. After all, the US policy is to go after terrorists and those who support them. Lock and load.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

GMTA. See #9.

[prairiebreeze]

there is no proof that these two organizations are terror groups.

There's no proof that the French are able to distinguish their a$$es from holes in the ground either.

we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

"Clear cut" is to be avoided at all costs! Much better to muddy up the situation with policital correctness and false information.

Prairie

[tbpiper]

Rummy can spare a division

A squad is all that's necessary.

[Smile-n-Win]

a pre-emptive surrender?

That's it--France's answer to our pre-emptive wars of liberation!

[AdmSmith]

The most probable reason is that there are a substantial number of islamists in France and the frog-gov made an agreement that as long as the frog-gov support them outside France the terrorists will not kill anybody in France or harm French interests.

[Momaw Nadon]

[jaykay]

An article about the French position on Hamas, Islamic Jihad not being terrorists also at albawaba.com with a space for comments if anyone feels like venting their frustration.

[lainde]

They are truly scurrilous weasels!

[rrrod]

lol true!!!

[jaykay]

French weather officals say there is no proof that there was a heatwave.

[bitcon]

"If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand,"

MAY HAVE TO CHANGE? They better take AL Qaeda off the list cause theres just as much proof that they're terrorists as Hamas. We wouldn't want people who kill thousands of innocents and call for the destruction of the West to be called terrorists. Of course thats assuming that the EU has already declared Al Qaeda a terrorits organization.

[aomagrat]

1938: France says Nazis no threat to peace

[rrrod]

i wish i had more ways of sticking it to the french..i boycott their products and insult them every chance i get but still i feel i need to do more ...ha ha ..any ideas?

[smith288]

At your place of work, print out this headline and put a french flag with a big red X through it

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Americans are now boycotting french goods and American tourist travel to france is apparently 1/10 of what it was before the french decided to go islamofascist. Everything I read suggests that this is costing them billions and they don't like it one bit. I could be off a little in my numbers but the point is that the effect has been dramatic and it hurts. And I see no prospect of this letting up, as the french always relied on the fact that they were tres chic and now that they're not and so now there's no reason to drink their overrated wine, eat their smelly cheese, or go to their overpriced cafes to be treated rudely by their American hating waiters. Since no-one would ever by a french car anyway there's no point in even talking about boycotting their cars.

[rrrod]

too true...

[rrrod]

although the french make it so easy for us to hate them..dont forget the german involvement against us...

[Dirk McQuickly]

The French government is starting to bear a stinking resemblance to some other awful Eurpoean regimes of the 20th century.

France is in an utterly ridiculous downward spiral. Someone needs to leave them on hold while the rest of the world goes out for a cup of coffee.

[reagan_fanatic]

"Perhaps if Hamas went around targeting French nationals they'd think differently.
On second thoughts they probably wouldn't."

Of course they won't.
Why target one of your closest allies?

[smith288]

[HamiltonJay]

hahhaah I see, so in France, if you blow up babies on busses or in the streets, and openly take responsibility for it... You're not a terrorist... provided of course that your intended victims are Jewish....


Seems little has changed since the 1940s in France...

[Publius6961]

Assuming this is not a stealth Onion piece, or a cosmic joke, it raises a serious question and sounds a serious alarm.
Aliens must have gotten to the human water supply.

Madness (in the clinical sense) on a local political level is a curiosity, but harmless enough.
On a state level it is more serious and we can debate the necessity of justifying a recall when a politician bankrupts a state then whines that a group wants to "steal" "his" election.

On a national level we can elect a slimeball not once but twice and wonder why certain age-old concepts like "honor" and "treason" have virtually disappeared with sane people unconcerned by the results.

But when it starts happening on an international level and nuclear weapons and submarines and aircraft carriers and all sorts of nasties are not only real but wielded by an increasingly neurotic series of groups, it is time to take serious pause.

Can anyone in the world not actively engaged in murder, mayhem, destruction for its own sake and driven by a hopeless, justified feeling of inferiority and helplessness really have reservations about the nature of Hamas and Islamic Jihad?

The balance of power, which has kept us all in its grip for generations, seems to have been, all along, a balance between reason and madness. And if this report is true, it appears as if madness has won.

What is happening?

[Clara Lou]

Ah, the mighty, wonderful, we-know-better-than-you French. Can't handle a heat wave, can't handle the aftermath. What can they handle besides white flags?

[goldstategop]

The French can't credit the claims of Hamas and Islamic Jihad's own pressitutes either. Apparently the Israelis forged them to make the Islamofascists look bad.

[eclectic]

I cannot believe this crap. On second thought, it is France, the first islamic country of Europe...

[Publius6961]

La France, c'est le merde.

Please, we'll be accused once more of being uncultured and insensitive.

That would be la merde, please.

[keats5]

"However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear cut, position."

You can't make this stuff up.

[kevkrom]

There's no proof that France is a civilized country.

I say Western Civilization should take a stand and declare that due to the lack of any positive contributions (and indeed, many negative ones) over the last 100 years or so, France should no longer be considered a part of Western Civilization.