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Harley Sorensen: Saving face, losing a war
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Monday, August 25, 2003 | Harley Sorensen

Posted on 08/25/2003 8:19:28 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"Bring 'em on," the man said. He is not a brave man, but he plays one on television.

When it came his turn to fight in a war, he hid behind Daddy. Then he had another drink and hid from the National Guard. Then he had another drink.


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
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1 posted on 08/25/2003 8:19:28 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
A good reminder of the dishonesty and viciousness of our opposition...
2 posted on 08/25/2003 8:23:05 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Tag line. You're it.)
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To: presidio9
...words, words, words...cliches, cliches, cliches...
3 posted on 08/25/2003 8:24:04 AM PDT by RichInOC (At least Mark Morford isn't boring.)
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To: presidio9
trash
4 posted on 08/25/2003 8:24:04 AM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: presidio9
He is not a brave man, but he plays one on television.

Yeah, being President of the US takes no courage at all. It's not like you are a constant target or anything. Not like you have to make important, world changing decisions. Nah. That's what courageous journalists in liberal west coast big towns do.

5 posted on 08/25/2003 8:25:26 AM PDT by Huck
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To: presidio9
I give this scumbag four and a half barfs. He bravely attacks others' courage from the safety of a newspaper page and then bravely orders a total and craven retreat in Iraq.
6 posted on 08/25/2003 8:25:39 AM PDT by T'wit
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To: presidio9
Nothing more disingenuous than an extreme leftwinger from San Francisco trying to sound like he gives a damn about people in the armed forces.
7 posted on 08/25/2003 8:27:24 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: presidio9
Geez, what a muddled mess of an article -- turning here, turning there, skipping off the surface of everything.

BTW, is Harley Sorensen a man or a woman?
8 posted on 08/25/2003 8:27:58 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: T'wit
Complete drivel. It's one thing to be critical of the administration or even disagree.

However, this type of lunacy has to be reflective of a deeper underlying mental illness.
9 posted on 08/25/2003 8:28:56 AM PDT by zencat
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To: presidio9
This has so many lies, distortions, ad hominem attacks, non sequitors, and so forth in it, I really do not know where to start challenging it. Thanks for the reminder of just how low the enemy can go.
10 posted on 08/25/2003 8:29:51 AM PDT by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: presidio9
...Well, Saddam has vanished. Who is our enemy now?...

Same as it has been, the American left.


11 posted on 08/25/2003 8:33:07 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: presidio9
My terse e-mail to this person:

"Well, Saddam has vanished. Who is our enemy now?"

You would be pretty high on my list.

12 posted on 08/25/2003 8:34:38 AM PDT by JimVT
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To: presidio9
From experience I have come to expect that socialists to whom one talks or whose crap one reads will invariably demonstrate a lack of grasp of how the world works. Sorry, Harley, you're not the exception I've been seeking.
13 posted on 08/25/2003 8:36:21 AM PDT by hauerf
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To: presidio9
Who is our enemy now?

I'd say the writer, Harley Sorensen, is a pretty good candidate.

14 posted on 08/25/2003 8:36:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Yardstick
Harley Sorensen is a Norwegian motorcycle!!!
15 posted on 08/25/2003 8:38:14 AM PDT by Mears (J)
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To: Yardstick

16 posted on 08/25/2003 8:47:18 AM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: zencat
You might be right that this jackass is mentally unstable (and I'd like to see him and Dubya with boxing gloves in a ring together, we'd see what brave words Harley would have). But after initially reading the first paragraph and chalking him up as just a typical leftist nutjob, I read more of the article...or as much as I could stand anyway. By throwing in the comments about oil and Vietnam, Sorenson gives himself away. Not as just another crazy leftist as is obvious, but more as a hater of America who's trying to convince himself that he's right. No mention about the downfall of Hussein ending the tyranny of one of the worst mass murderers of the recent times. No congratulations for trying to destroy the fascist Islamic killers who are the foes of civilization. It's not essentially an attack on Bush, it's basically an attack against America. This guy needs help.
17 posted on 08/25/2003 8:47:57 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: presidio9
Another reason why California should fall into the ocean (no offfense intended to "good Californians").
18 posted on 08/25/2003 8:48:31 AM PDT by Pokey78 ("I'm not going to start the Third World War for you"- Gen. Sir Michael Jackson to Gen. Wesley Clark)
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To: driftless
I know how to help him. He should be embedded with the troops for about 6 months. Then we will see what he writes.

Gum

19 posted on 08/25/2003 8:50:29 AM PDT by ChewedGum (http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
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To: presidio9
This article and these people are a prime example of why America dosen't trust the Left on matters of National Security. November of 1994 America put Conservatives in charge of Congress and in 2000 the White House. This isn't by chance but because the Left has been shown for what it really is.
Their willingness to say and do anything to gain power is as transparent is their lies and obfuscations.
Praise be the America is slowly but surely shifting to the Right.
20 posted on 08/25/2003 8:51:34 AM PDT by Rob45and2
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To: presidio9
And they did bring 'em on, one bomb at a time, one rocket-propelled grenade at a time, one rifle shot at a time, so terrifying to a relative of mine that she cried herself to sleep every night she was there. (Welcome home, baby. They can't get you here.)

Talk about missing the point. We are "there" precisely because "they" can get her "here".

21 posted on 08/25/2003 8:52:06 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: presidio9
Can you say "Vietnam," boys and girls? When do we start engraving names into a stark black wall?

The war is unwinnable. As in Vietnam, we are the invaders, invaders of a country that presented no threat to us. As with Vietnam, we lied to the world as to our motives. We said we wanted to destroy Saddam's weapons of mass destruction (done) and get rid of Saddam (done).

So why are will still there?

Why are we still in Bosnia? I have a relative who just got called up to go there for 7 months. Why are we still in Germany? Why are we still in Korea?

The question is assinine. Big time.

We toppled Saddam but we have not produced a body yet and for the time being "new" Saddam tapes are being released. The job in Iraq isn't over yet. Some nation may even be harboring him. Some fighters in Iraq hold hope that Saddam will return. Of course, some Americans still hold hope that Albert Gore Junior will become president before 2004.

22 posted on 08/25/2003 8:58:28 AM PDT by weegee
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To: presidio9
This article is so nutty, this guy appears to be either tripping or mentally unbalanced. I can't imagine why the paper printed this. It's so goofy, I almost suspect it's tongue-in-cheek. But then, I'm not familiar with this writer.

If he's for real, imagine sharing an office with him regardless of whether you are left or right. There would be no starting point for debate and time spent would be wasted. He's not at all logical.
23 posted on 08/25/2003 9:07:51 AM PDT by hotpotato
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To: presidio9
"He is not a brave man."

There is so much crap in this article, I'll just respond to this one item. The president of the United States lives under the constant threat of assassination, and everyone running for president knows that. At least 6 of the last 11 presidents have been shot, shot at, or had violent intruders penetrate the White House grounds or other presidential quarters (Truman, Kennedy, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, and W). In additon to this, two presidential candidates (RFK and Wallace) were shot in the last 35 years. All presidents receive innumerable death threats. As for Bush, his processing of the war against terror means he will have a bullseye on his back for the rest of his life. A coward would not take that on, no way. Apparently Harley Sorensen has doubts about his own capacity for courage, or he wouldn't be so obsessed about Bush.
24 posted on 08/25/2003 9:11:47 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: zencat
Most of those who write for the San Francisco Chronicle have a "deeper underlying mental illness." And they are not even ashamed or embarassed by how ridiculous they are. I think that supports the accusation of mental illness.
25 posted on 08/25/2003 9:18:26 AM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: presidio9
When our nation was attacked on Sept. 11, he hid in an airplane, flying to and fro around the country. While our nation was crying for leadership, he was making sure the coast was clear.

Well, Saddam has vanished. Who is our enemy now?

In the absence of a body, we have to assume that Saddam is in hiding. The same strategy that this clymer crowed at President Bush over. Are Saddam's death squads crying out for leadership from Saddam? Or are they continuing about their jobs despite the uncertainness of what the future holds?

26 posted on 08/25/2003 9:25:21 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Steve_Seattle
The president of the United States lives under the constant threat of assassination, and everyone running for president knows that.

This is so understood that some people choose to not seek the office because of it.

27 posted on 08/25/2003 9:28:19 AM PDT by weegee
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To: T'wit
That's a pretty accurate assessment. Thanks!
28 posted on 08/25/2003 9:31:35 AM PDT by weegee
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To: presidio9
Projectile hurl alert in title :)
29 posted on 08/25/2003 10:03:02 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Steve_Seattle
Don't forget Saddam tried to assassinate Bush 41.
30 posted on 08/25/2003 12:40:50 PM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: presidio9
Thanks for the photo. My first impression was that some Dem's brain washed 14 yr old kid wrote the article. Whine whine whine thats all they do. All we can do is just give him the peace sign and say Peace and Love. All that pot and LSD he took in the 60's hasn't worn off yet.
31 posted on 08/25/2003 3:24:18 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Living History $1.00 at your local Dollar Store by December.)
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To: Mears
"Harley Sorensen is a Norwegian motorcycle!!!" Nope he is just a "Motormouth"!
32 posted on 08/25/2003 3:30:34 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Living History $1.00 at your local Dollar Store by December.)
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