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Kicker says Colorado treated her like 'meat'
ESP(i)N ^ | 8/22/03 | AP

Posted on 08/25/2003 9:48:23 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- New Mexico placekicker Katie Hnida alleges she was a target of sexual harassment in 1999 when she was on the football team at Colorado.

"I was treated much more like a piece of meat there," she said in a story in The Albuquerque Tribune on Friday. "Because I'm a pretty feminine gal, and they didn't respect that about me."

Hnida on Friday declined to speak with The Associated Press about her time at Colorado and the allegations she raised.

"I have nothing to say," Hnida, a senior at New Mexico, said after a practice session.

Hnida told the newspaper she was "called names that are not repeatable" many times during the 1999 season -- her final one at Colorado.

Hnida, 22, dressed but never got into a game during two seasons as a walk-on at Colorado. She said her experience at her new school has been enjoyable.

"I can be as feminine as I want, but that doesn't take away from me contributing on the field," she told the newspaper.

Hnida became the first woman to compete in a Division I-A football game when she attempted an extra point last Dec. 25 in the Lobos' 27-13 loss to UCLA in the Las Vegas Bowl. The kick was blocked.

Gary Barnett, who was in his first season as head coach at Colorado when Hnida was with the Buffaloes, said Thursday he was made aware of only one complaint.

Hnida or her father, Dave Hnida, "said she had been called an inappropriate name," Barnett said.

"I immediately went to the accused source of that and was very angry and very upset that he would do that sort of thing," Barnett said.

Barnett said he gave the player a tongue-lashing and told him he would be kicked off the team if he did it again. The player was not identified.

Hnida would not say how many times she complained to Barnett about mistreatment, but said: "That was certainly not the only incident he was aware of."

"If he was not aware of anything else, then it's hard to imagine he was blind and deaf," Hnida said. "I never got that impression, although he and I didn't have a very open, communicating relationship like (New Mexico coach Rocky Long) and I do."

Barnett said Hnida and "the media fiasco" that followed her during the season upset a number of Colorado players.

"I had to talk to players and tell them she was to be given a fair chance and fair opportunity," Barnett said.

"We took very good care of her, but Katie struggled with her own performance, where I don't think she ever earned the respect of her teammates. If that prompted certain treatment, I don't know," he said.

Hnida "wasn't a very good kicker" and "was a distraction to our team," Barnett said.

"So they looked at her as someone who was a novelty, a publicity act, a sideshow," Barnett told the Rocky Mountain News. "I never, ever wanted it to be like that."

Hnida said she was not universally accepted by her Colorado teammates, especially one reserve quarterback.

"We'd be kicking, and he'd launch (footballs) at my head," she said. "I'd have them whizzing by. To this day, if a football flies by my head, sometimes I just (flinch)."

Hnida did not try out for the Buffaloes in the fall of 2000 after Barnett said he told her she would have to beat out at least one of five kickers ahead of her.

Hnida said she didn't return for several reasons, including "an incident during that summer" she declined to detail.

Hnida took classes at Colorado in 2000-01, then transferred to Santa Barbara (Calif.) City College for the 2001-02 school year, but did not play football.

Hnida, of Littleton, Colo., joined the Lobos in 2002 as a walk-on.

"I love this program," she said of New Mexico. "I can't even tell you what a good time I've had here. I'm surrounded by a spectacular group of teammates, coaches, trainers, equipment, people."

Long said he has never heard of any problems regarding Hnida and her current teammates and she has never been a distraction.

He said Hnida might be sent into a game this season "if the right time appears," but said, "we're not going to manufacture anything."


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"I can be as feminine as I want, but that doesn't take away from me contributing on the field," she told the newspaper.

Hnida, 22, dressed but never got into a game during two seasons as a walk-on....

What contributions, she never played?

Oh, wait...

Hnida became the first woman to compete in a Division I-A football game when she attempted an extra point last Dec. 25 in the Lobos' 27-13 loss to UCLA in the Las Vegas Bowl. The kick was blocked.

1 posted on 08/25/2003 9:48:24 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Treated like meat? Too bad...poor baby...welcome to football sister!
2 posted on 08/25/2003 9:49:18 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard
I forgot to add....why should she get special treatment when lineman or linebackers don't?
3 posted on 08/25/2003 9:50:04 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Hnida told the newspaper she was "called names that are not repeatable" many times during the 1999 season -- her final one at Colorado.

Cussing in a football locker room? Meanness in competition in the most violent sport we play? Why I never heard of such a thing...

She does a terrible disservice to all the truly gifted female athletes out there. All she is doing is reinforcing several stereotypes.

4 posted on 08/25/2003 9:51:03 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
He said Hnida might be sent into a game this season "if the right time appears," but said, "we're not going to manufacture anything."
Huh?? Isn't waiting for the right time (where it won't hurt score-wise) to use a kicker you don't really need manufacturing?
5 posted on 08/25/2003 9:52:04 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Because I'm a pretty feminine gal, and they didn't respect that about me."

You force your way onto a men's team, then complain that no one respects you?

6 posted on 08/25/2003 9:53:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Everyone on a football team will be subject to dirty talk, razzing and hazing.

Why is she complaining about the treatment that everyone else gets?
7 posted on 08/25/2003 9:54:03 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Think New Mexico will let her kick in a game? Probably not.
8 posted on 08/25/2003 9:54:12 AM PDT by b4its2late (Hoping this gets me on the Taglinus FreeRepublicus (21th Edition) list!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
She's 0 for 1 in the kicking department, one coach says she wasn't a very good kicker and another has to find just the right moment for her to play.

Can someone tell me why she's taking up room on the roster?

9 posted on 08/25/2003 9:54:41 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Diddle E. Squat
What, no pics?
10 posted on 08/25/2003 9:55:00 AM PDT by chance33_98 (WWJD - What would Jefferson Do?)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Girls should not play football with guys.

Let them start their own leagues.
11 posted on 08/25/2003 9:55:32 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Now this was a good field goal kicker:


12 posted on 08/25/2003 9:55:37 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: chance33_98
see post #12
13 posted on 08/25/2003 9:56:20 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"To this day, if a football flies by my head, sometimes I just (flinch)."

Well, wouldn't most college and professional football players say the same thing? Oh, they wouldn't? And they wouldn't cry Boo Hoo when someone calls them names? Hmmmm. Maybe she just doesn't have what it takes. Take up pottery, sweetie.

14 posted on 08/25/2003 9:57:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

15 posted on 08/25/2003 9:58:12 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: Guillermo; Diddle E. Squat
"Everyone on a football team will be subject to dirty talk, razzing and hazing."

Damn right. Try being a walk on at 5'7", 130 pounds with the first name of Kermit.

Being a safety-cornerback, at least I could get some payback.

16 posted on 08/25/2003 9:58:18 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Game on in ten seconds.....)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I'll have to see the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition before I can make any real judgement about her strengths and weaknesses..

17 posted on 08/25/2003 9:59:37 AM PDT by Hatteras (I've got to stop wishin', got to go fishin'...)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I guess she never saw North Dallas Forty, huh?
18 posted on 08/25/2003 9:59:44 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Hnida became the first woman to compete in a Division I-A football game when she attempted an extra point last Dec. 25 in the Lobos' 27-13 loss to UCLA in the Las Vegas Bowl. The kick was blocked.

BUWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

19 posted on 08/25/2003 10:00:52 AM PDT by BSunday
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Give 'em a foot. . . .
20 posted on 08/25/2003 10:01:28 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Footnote.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Swearing ban for women's commando trainers
21 posted on 08/25/2003 10:01:46 AM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: July 4th
Football and full makeup.
22 posted on 08/25/2003 10:03:14 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Another reason to get rid of kickers in football. You've got these warriors going to war for 59 minutes, only to have the game decided by some pip squeak foreigner coming on the field saying "I'm going to keeck a touchdown."
23 posted on 08/25/2003 10:03:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bikers4Bush
"Let them start their own leagues."

I agree. I would watch, provided it was done right.

Juggie girl football league and take the WNBA, please. Lets have bikini basketball, wet T shirt baseball league with body checks, like hockey, allowed on the base runner, I could go on and on. Probably be flamed like crazy too. :o

24 posted on 08/25/2003 10:04:19 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Last year New Mexico placekicker Katie Hnida was the first woman to play in a Division I NCAA football game. She trotted out for the extra point in the Las Vegas Bowl. Being that it's the Las Vegas Bowl, the odds of making an extra point are pretty high. Katie managed to kick the ball about a foot in the air and have it blocked by her center's ass. She promptly walked over to the sideline and sobbed. Then the grief counselors took over. I just thank God the ball didn't bounce back to her in a Garo Yepremian replay. Can you imagine?

by Dan Redmond SFM Columnist

25 posted on 08/25/2003 10:04:53 AM PDT by shiva
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Welcome to football little lady. I can't count how many times I was called names when I played sports. And that was by my best friends.
26 posted on 08/25/2003 10:06:55 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLA TIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Football 101 dictates that coaches will sometimes berate a player for inexcusable performance and that hazing does occur between teammates.....all designed to build mental toughness and team camaraderie. With her obvious thin-skinned approach to these issues she failed miserably at both.
27 posted on 08/25/2003 10:11:11 AM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"I was treated much more like a piece of meat there," she said in a story in The Albuquerque Tribune on Friday.

Leaving her sex aside for the moment, I'd like to tell Ms. Hnida that walk-on's are generally treated "like a piece of meat" in Division I-A. If they didn't think enough of your talents to offer you a scholarship, then you're just there to act like a living tackling dummy for the stud players. Period, end of sentence. Grow up.

28 posted on 08/25/2003 10:12:16 AM PDT by Tallguy (Just taking life with a grain of salt....oh, and a slice of lime and a shot of tequila...)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"Girls should not play football with guys. Let them start their own leagues."

They tried that once. Nobody watched. It was actually quite embarrassing to watch.

29 posted on 08/25/2003 10:12:39 AM PDT by Hatteras (I've got to stop wishin', got to go fishin'...)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
@#$%^&*, and furthermore, @&^%$#. If I've told you @#$%^&* once, I've told you a thousand f****** times. Don't move the f***** ball when the kicker is in the wind-up. If I hear any more of this @#$%^&* s***, you're going to get your a$$es kicked from here to @#$%^&*!
30 posted on 08/25/2003 10:13:54 AM PDT by hardhead ('Curly, don't say its a fine morning or I'll shoot you.' - John Wayne, 'McLintock' 1963)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
aliens & meat
31 posted on 08/25/2003 10:15:03 AM PDT by dogbrain ("Life is hard son. It's harder if you're stupid.")
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To: Diddle E. Squat

32 posted on 08/25/2003 10:16:20 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: dfwgator
Another reason to get rid of kickers in football. You've got these warriors going to war for 59 minutes, only to have the game decided by some pip squeak foreigner coming on the field saying "I'm going to keeck a touchdown."

Bet you wouldn't have said that face-to-face with the Gators' kicker last year, or with a certain kicker named "Janikowski".

33 posted on 08/25/2003 10:16:48 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: Diddle E. Squat
On a football team, players will tease and mock a teammate for any distinction or difference of any kind. If a player has a vagina, you can be damn sure someone's going to mention it.
34 posted on 08/25/2003 10:17:48 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Actually it was Gus who was the incredibly successful field goal kicking mule.

Francis just talked a lot. Just like someone else...

35 posted on 08/25/2003 10:19:05 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Sam's Army
I don't think Janikowski was a walk on at Florida State. Didn't he earn a Betty Ford Clinic scholarship?
36 posted on 08/25/2003 10:21:06 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Bikers4Bush
Well, lookie here, I spoke too soon. They actually do have a league right now. The WPFL features such teams as

The Amazons...

and

the Vixens

37 posted on 08/25/2003 10:22:22 AM PDT by Hatteras (I've got to stop wishin', got to go fishin'...)
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To: Howlin
I guess she never saw North Dallas Forty, huh?

Or Necessary Roughness. At least Kathy Ireland actually split the uprights. And when a defensive lineman roughed her up after a kick, she split HIS uprights.

38 posted on 08/25/2003 10:23:48 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Stop global whining."

Clearly this chick is just trying to set up her 15 minutes of profitable fame "in some other venue".

NOT Sport Illustrated...

39 posted on 08/25/2003 10:24:33 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"I was treated much more like a piece of meat there," she said in a story in The Albuquerque Tribune on Friday. "Because I'm a pretty feminine gal, and they didn't respect that about me."

--Katie Hnida

Hnida told the newspaper she was "called names that are not repeatable" many times during the 1999 season.

"I can be as feminine as I want, but that doesn't take away from me contributing on the field"

--Katie Hnida

"If he was not aware of anything else, then it's hard to imagine he was blind and deaf. I never got that impression, although he and I didn't have a very open, communicating relationship like (New Mexico coach Rocky Long) and I do"

--Katie Hnida (who apparently cannot construct a sentence)

"We'd be kicking, and he'd launch (footballs) at my head. I'd have them whizzing by. To this day, if a football flies by my head, sometimes I just (flinch)."

--Katie Hnida (awww, poor baby)

"Hnida on Friday declined to speak with The Associated Press about her time at Colorado and the allegations she raised."

"I have nothing to say."

--Katie Hnida

For someone with nothing to say, she sure flaps her lips a lot. Besides being stupid, she sounds like a lousy player who has just GOTTA blame the male establishment for her lack of talent (not smart enough to try to improve?).

40 posted on 08/25/2003 10:27:32 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: irish guard
Treated like meat? Too bad...poor baby...welcome to football sister!

Yep. My son is 6'-4", 305 Lbs., and he says he was treated like meat, and so were the others, on the college football team he played for. He deciphered the assistant coaches' job as "constantly trying to find someone to replace you".

41 posted on 08/25/2003 10:28:43 AM PDT by Migraine (my grain is pretty straight today)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Women don't belong on men's college football teams period! It is dumb, idiotic, and frankly I don't think any woman can compete with Division I men's football players.

Not to mention this one is whiney which I really cannot stand!
42 posted on 08/25/2003 10:30:38 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
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To: CaptRon
"Can someone tell me why she's taking up room on the roster?"

Because its cheaper than a lawsuit.
43 posted on 08/25/2003 10:32:26 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Migraine
My point exactly.....a backup QB (soph)just left Notre Dame because an incoming freshman is winning the number two QB job....welcome to the big time sister. Can you imagine listening to her whine at a real job? She needs to grow up.
44 posted on 08/25/2003 10:33:24 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: dfwgator
Another reason to get rid of kickers in football. You've got these warriors going to war for 59 minutes, only to have the game decided by some pip squeak foreigner coming on the field saying "I'm going to keeck a touchdown."

The sports media hasn't covered this in years, but I do remember players describing the position of kicker ( when most of them still spoke English ) as the least respected on the team. An example of one source of resentment was that because of their size most kickers were able to buy street clothes off the rack, where as the rest of the players were mostly super size and had to shop in big and tall places. Another is the kicker isn't in the game for about half of it like most players ( defense/offense ).

With kicking made more important in recent years, especially in OT, kickers take on a more prominent role as hero or goat. Many times it's goat. If she wants respect, she picked the wrong sport. Ask her to compare her treatment to a player who fumbled during an important play or a WR who dropped a pass. They have to do plenty to atone for one bad play.

45 posted on 08/25/2003 10:35:08 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: dfwgator
"Another reason to get rid of kickers in football. You've got these warriors going to war for 59 minutes, only to have the game decided by some pip squeak foreigner coming on the field saying "I'm going to keeck a touchdown."

Let me preface my comment with this:

I kicked on my high school team. Actually, I was the tight end (careful there fellas) but the Friday before our opening game in my junior year, the coach realized that we didn't have a kicker yet. So, he lined everyone up with the quarterback holding the ball at the 25 yardline and had everyone give it a shot. I was one of 4 that made it through the uprights. We had a kick-off between us and I was the one left standing. So, in addition to my offensive duties, I also kicked extra points and field goals (as well as punting duties) in my junior and senior years. I was also the second leading scorer on the team due to my second job.

We ran a double tightend run-style offense where the majority of the time I blocked and on occasions, I caught a few short TDs. So, basically, I have a dog on each side of this argument. But, with all that said, full-time kickers are not football players. If this girl wanted to play football, she should never have been a kicker. But, in defense of kickers, the kickers come in because the offense can't get their job done, pull the teams collective @$$ out of the fire, so to speak. If the REAL football players don't want kickers on the field, they need to do their jobs better.

46 posted on 08/25/2003 10:39:38 AM PDT by Hatteras (I've got to stop wishin', got to go fishin'...)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Of course, there was a time when the kicker was a position player. For example, when Steve Spurrier was QB at Florida, he was also the place kicker. Lou Groza was a linebacker, and George Blanda was a QB even though both were better known for being kickers. I think that it would be interesting if they made the rule in football that in order to be eligible as a kicker, you have to be a positional player, and not just a kicking specialist.
47 posted on 08/25/2003 10:41:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Diddle E. Squat
So they looked at her as someone who was a novelty, a publicity act, a sideshow," Barnett told the Rocky Mountain News. "I never, ever wanted it to be like that"

Never saw it coming, eh?

48 posted on 08/25/2003 10:45:46 AM PDT by babaloo999
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To: dfwgator
"I think that it would be interesting if they made the rule in football that in order to be eligible as a kicker, you have to be a positional player, and not just a kicking specialist."

What would really shake things up is to make that rule apply to coaches too. If you want to coach, you have to teach a REAL course at the university.

49 posted on 08/25/2003 10:45:50 AM PDT by Hatteras (dang,.......... that durn tag's.......... around here,...................... somewhere......)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"We'd be kicking, and he'd launch (footballs) at my head," she said. "I'd have them whizzing by. To this day, if a football flies by my head, sometimes I just (flinch)."

Which is probably why her one kick was blocked. If she can't maintain concentration with a football coming close to her head, imagine what she'd do with a safety or a linebacker bearing down on her.

50 posted on 08/25/2003 10:49:23 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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