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Al Franken Flips Out on CNN
NewsMax.com ^
| 8/26/03
| Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 08/26/2003 12:24:18 AM PDT by kattracks
Al Franken must be having a hard time these days.
The liberal media have been parading him on all the shows -- to claim that the liberal media is not liberal at all, but really a right wing propaganda machine.
These liberal media outlets (along with a silly lawsuit from Fox News), have helped to propel Al Franken's new book into the bestseller lists.
But it would only be fitting that when appearing on a liberal network Franken would complain he is being censored.
Decent folks were aghast at such chutzpah on CNN's Crossfire Monday, when Franken subbed for James Carville as the show's co-host, pitted against conservative Tucker Carlson.
As anyone who watched the program saw, Franken was given more than enough time to air his baseless complaints about a right wing cabal taking over the major media.
All was fine while Franken and ally, Joe Conason, also out with a book claiming -- you guessed it -- the right wing control the media -- monopolized most of the conversation.
No doubt they were reveling in the good old days, when a typical TV talk show had four liberals and no conservatives, or one token conservative who was rudely interrupted anytime he dared challenge the prevailing p.c. sentiment.
So when Carlson and fellow conservative, talk show host B.Q. Cullum, began challenging the notion that somehow the major media like the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, the three major networks, CNN, MSNBC, and practically every other media outlet in the country are and remain -- liberal, Franken clearly had a panic attack of seismic proportions and flipped out -- on air.
Franken's hysterics began as soon as B.Q. challenged his claim that the Clinton administration "were building the military that won the war in Iraq and that won the war Afghanistan."
B.Q. responded, accurately, that the Clinton administration was "not funding -- they were not funding the military."
Co-host Carlson tried to add his two cents, when Franken clearly became unglued and began screaming, no less than four times, "I am the co-host of this show. I am the co-host of this show. I am the co-host of this show. Let me say one thing. I am the co-host of this show. I get to say this. Now, Dick Cheney ..."
Franken's unusual behavior drew some nervous laughter from the audience, and even his co-host Carlson was taken aback, saying, "Al, your face is actually twitching, so you're starting to make me a little nervous."
Later, after returning from a commercial break, Carlson again noted Franken's freakish behavior.
Carlson said to Franken, "Your face is starting to twitch again, Al. You are making me nervous, I have to say. I love having you here, but ..."
When Carlson went to wrap up the show, and fade out for the final break, Franken started again, in his nasally high pitched voice, "No, no, no."
A baffled Carlson, who handled himself with great poise, looked at Franken and again tried to end the show.
Here's the transcript:
Carlson: "I know. I'm sorry. We're totally, completely out of time. I'm getting it in my ear. They're saying they're going to cut us off."
Franken: "No, no, no, no."
Carlson: "Yes. No. It's true."
Franken, unrelenting: "Because I've got to say this."
Carlson ". . . I'm sorry."
Clearly, after this show Franken has more evidence of conservative bias for his next book, "How CNN's Conservative Censored Me and Other Ways Right Wing Enterprises Silence Paranoid Liberals Like Me."
We're not finished with Franken.
Let's put aside his dramatics and review the subject matter at hand.
Is the press biased in favor of conservatives?
As Carlson stated, the evidence is not anecdotal. Studies show the press to be very biased, to the liberal side.
Carlson cited one study: "This is a survey from the American Society of Newspaper Editors. And it asked journalists to describe their own political leanings. This is self-reporting: liberal/Democrat, 61 percent; conservative/Republican, 15 percent."
Another baseless claim made by Franken:
"Now, Dick Cheney said that any secretary of defense fights with the military that was given to him by his predecessors. And he said that after the Persian Gulf War in 1991, the first person he thanked was Ronald Reagan. I think Bill Clinton is entitled to that same call from Donald Rumsfeld."
First, Bill Clinton needs to call America and explain how he allowed al-Qaeda to grow for more than a decade.
In the same call he could also apologize for emasculating the CIA and FBI -- to the point that 19 foreigners could penetrate our borders and hijack four jets on Sept. 11, 2001.
There is no question that Mr. Bush, just months into his presidency, truly did inherit this disaster from his predecessor.
More to the point, Clinton also needs to make a second call to Mr. Bush and explain why he reduced America's military capability by almost 50 percent during his eight years. Unlike you Al, the numbers don't lie.
Clinton could also tell him why military stocks had been so depleted after his war in Kosovo and bombing aspirin factories that the Pentagon's arsenal was practically depleted of smart bombs or cruise missiles when Mr. Bush arrived at the White House.
A little story the press has not fully reported: it took more than a year for the Bush administration to go to war against Iraq, partly because it had to keep munitions factories running 24/7 for a year to rebuild stocks depleted during the Clinton years.
Yes, America "won in Iraq and Afghanistan," as Franken says.
But we won because of smart bombs and hi-tech equipment developed largely during the Reagan build up of the 80s -- a build up so vociferously opposed by Franken and his ilk.
We also won because of the greatness of our troops and their commanders -- many of whom persevered during the 90s to serve their country under a commander in chief they did not respect.
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1
posted on
08/26/2003 12:24:18 AM PDT
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
Ha ha ha ha ha! Too bad his big head didn't actually pop off of his little body in his hissy-fit!
2
posted on
08/26/2003 12:27:49 AM PDT
by
Yaelle
To: kattracks
Franken's hysterics began as soon as B.Q. challenged his claim that the Clinton administration "were building the military that won the war in Iraq and that won the war Afghanistan." Now I'm really confused. I thought the left has decided we have not won the war in Iraq OR Afghanistan and that we are losing on both fronts.
3
posted on
08/26/2003 12:33:13 AM PDT
by
hotpotato
To: Yaelle
Remember "vote for me, Al Franken". LOL
4
posted on
08/26/2003 12:33:38 AM PDT
by
meanie monster
(hooked on phonics werked for me.)
To: kattracks
He has a reputation for being unable to control his temper, and for nearly getting into physical confrontations with people.
He debated my pastor once on a local (Seattle) afternoon show. My pastor is very cool, very calm, very big (was in the NFL before his ministry) and pretty much nailed Franken to the wall - and Franken was visibly ummmm...unhappy.
5
posted on
08/26/2003 12:39:45 AM PDT
by
DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
To: Yaelle
His big head is obviously mostly empty space - big head; pea brain.
To: kattracks
Carlson cited one study: "This is a survey from the American Society of Newspaper Editors. And it asked journalists to describe their own political leanings. This is self-reporting: liberal/Democrat, 61 percent; conservative/Republican, 15 percent." What was the remaining 24%? Communist?
7
posted on
08/26/2003 12:51:23 AM PDT
by
weegee
(I am embarassed for adding this to the thread...)
To: meanie monster
It seems to have something to do with guys named "Al"...
8
posted on
08/26/2003 12:51:33 AM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
He debated my pastor once on a local (Seattle) afternoon show. My pastor is very cool, very calm, very big (was in the NFL before his ministry) and pretty much nailed Franken to the wall - and Franken was visibly ummmm...unhappy. I'd've paid ca$h money to see that.
9
posted on
08/26/2003 12:55:15 AM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
To: kattracks
Libs love these baboon-a$$ed histrionics.
They call it "passion."
10
posted on
08/26/2003 12:59:38 AM PDT
by
martin_fierro
(A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
To: hotpotato
Yeah, I thought Iraq was a QUAGMIRE !!
11
posted on
08/26/2003 1:05:29 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
To: kattracks
Anybody get a vidcap of this?
12
posted on
08/26/2003 1:14:37 AM PDT
by
strela
("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
To: kattracks
This is a ``dog bites man'' story.
To: nickcarraway
If they really wanted to boost ratings, they'd have put Frankenstein against Ann Coulter. Frankenstein would have gone Jerry Springer on them all.
Someone please ping me if they find a video of this. Thanks.
14
posted on
08/26/2003 1:23:02 AM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: RandallFlagg
If they really wanted to boost ratings, they'd have put Frankenstein against Ann Coulter.That's too scary! The emotional trauma could have made Al permanently revert to his ``Stewart Smalley'' character!
To: kattracks
It's been obvious for years that Franken is seriously deranged. And yet Harvard and CNN can't get enough of him. What does this say about them?
To: kattracks
I saw part of this as I was surfing. I thought Franken kept yelling "This is my show" over and over. Since I never watch CNN, I didn't know he was a sub, but he is still nuts. On another subject; did anyone else see Brit Hume go after Karen Tumulty (sp) from Time last night? She was visibly angry.
17
posted on
08/26/2003 2:39:59 AM PDT
by
patj
To: kattracks
Its obvious from him mocking God in his new book, he has some demons using his brain as their playground.
18
posted on
08/26/2003 3:08:22 AM PDT
by
Russell Scott
(Without massive intervention from Heaven, America doesn't have a prayer.)
To: hotpotato
Now I'm really confused. I thought the left has decided we have not won the war in Iraq OR Afghanistan and that we are losing on both fronts. Maybe I can explain...
Rule 1 of Liberalism: Facts, logic, and consistency are irrelevant.
19
posted on
08/26/2003 3:17:32 AM PDT
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Damn. Now I wish I had watched.
Is CNN gonna yank his sorry butt for tonight?
Just damn.
If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...
20
posted on
08/26/2003 3:20:53 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: kattracks

Al Franken as a child.
21
posted on
08/26/2003 3:29:15 AM PDT
by
csvset
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
>>
He has a reputation for being unable to control his temper, and for nearly getting into physical confrontations with peopleMy husband loves people like that...They give him an excuse to knock their teeth out almost from the word "GO"
22
posted on
08/26/2003 3:33:23 AM PDT
by
Wondervixen
(Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
To: kattracks
Is there any way I could see this? This was great. for once a mantra spouting, factually oblivious lib comes unglued on national TV. Where can I see a tape of this?
To: kattracks
I heard most of joe conason's appearance with Micheal Medved. Medved has got to be the smartest person in the media and his command of history and current events is equalled by no one else. But Medved tolerated way too much from joe. In fact, most media tolerate way too much from extreme leftists. Where is the public outrage about the Texas democRATS? Why isn't someone every day ridiculing the sabotage of the electoral process? The missing Texas legislators have nullified the votes of Texas residents who put the Republicans into a majority role.
Politicians act as if shame were real and a factor in voting, otherwise they wouldn't cover up their faults and level charges against opponents. Non-leftists ought to recognize this fact and go after the traitors.
24
posted on
08/26/2003 3:45:42 AM PDT
by
RWG
To: kattracks
This is the actual picture CNN uses to advertise Franken for Crossfire:
25
posted on
08/26/2003 3:58:37 AM PDT
by
SkyPilot
To: kattracks
Crossfire transcript
HERE
26
posted on
08/26/2003 4:01:52 AM PDT
by
SkyPilot
To: patj
I didn't see Brit but E.D. Hill lambasted Al FRanken yesterday! She says he indirectly referrs to her as a "drunken woman" in his book. The incident that Franken bases this on was at some journalists dinner that many media personalities attended. Thing is though, E.D. is trying to conceive and hasn't been drinking. And wasn't that night.
She called him an idiot and other names on air! I was surprised at that.
Prairie
27
posted on
08/26/2003 4:24:26 AM PDT
by
prairiebreeze
(The UN got a wake up call. And has chosen to go back to sleep.)
To: RandallFlagg
If they really wanted to boost ratings, they'd have put Frankenstein against Ann Coulter. Frankenstein would have gone Jerry Springer on them all. Now that would be fun to watch.
On second thought, Franken would probably punch Ann in the face, so maybe it wouldn't be such a great idea.
28
posted on
08/26/2003 4:41:41 AM PDT
by
alnick
To: kattracks

Al needs some time with Stuart Smalley. He needs some affirmation.
29
posted on
08/26/2003 4:52:15 AM PDT
by
smith288
(For every column Ann Coulter writes, liberals worldwide experience shrinkage)
To: kattracks
Anybody else have a problem with the results of ADA?
Anybody?
Ahhhhhhh...
The beauty of unintended consequences!
30
posted on
08/26/2003 4:55:38 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
To: patj
Missed Brit last night. Can you elaborate on the Tumulty exchange?
31
posted on
08/26/2003 4:56:46 AM PDT
by
babaloo
To: Bonaparte
It's been obvious for years that Franken is seriously deranged.
According to
Laughing in the Shadows by Patricia Wynn Brown, Michael O'Donoghue -- one of the original writers on
Saturday Night Live who died in 1994 -- "hated Al Franken and once threw a script Franken had written out a 17-story window." (Evidently getting any respect has been a long time coming for poor Al. Ironic that the same Franken who's been adopted by the far left was, before his recent rantings and right-hating tirades and books, most famous for his SNL Stewart Smiley skit that parodies the new agers.) ;)
A bit off topic for this thread, but if you're curious, you might want to read
Michael O'Donoghue's How to Write Good. That piece was written as humor, and although it was written in the 1970s, it is still spot-on about some of the journalism techniques used to slant the news. (Note: I set the
How to Write Good link to open a new window so that it doesn't take you off of this thread.)
32
posted on
08/26/2003 5:00:04 AM PDT
by
Fawnn
(I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
To: Angelus Errare
Ping.
33
posted on
08/26/2003 5:04:35 AM PDT
by
Green Knight
(Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
To: kattracks; All
I read somewhere that E.D. from Fox and Friends is upset with Franken about something he put in the book about her. (Referred to her as being the "drunken blonde" at an event; the event he mentions took place when she was either pregnant or trying to get pregnant and therefore wasn't even drinking.) I didn't catch that show. Anyone know about it?
I followed a link on another thread and read a part of Al Franken's intro to his newest book. Based on the incident at the LA Book Fair televised on booktv.org/CSpan-2 where Franken confronted O'Reilly and that book intro look into his thought patterns, the kindest conclusion I can reach is that Franken is a scary, sad demon-haunted being. (I can't quite bring myself to call him either a person or a man.)
34
posted on
08/26/2003 5:09:04 AM PDT
by
Fawnn
(I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
To: kattracks
Franken was interviewed on CNN yesterday by some women I can't identify (I rarely watch CNN). She asked him about the infamous shouting match with O'Reilly. Al responded that he was just casually pointing out to Bill what a "pathological liar" (actual statement by Franken about O'Reilly) he was. The interviewer then pointed out some of Franken's own lies including something about stolen material from Harvard and a few other things...something about Ashcroft I believe. You should have seen the stuttering and ers and ahs coming from Franken then. Why it was all just a joke he exclaimed. "But they were lies" repeated the interviewer "weren't they?" Remember this was CNN grilling the Great Unfunny One.
35
posted on
08/26/2003 5:09:51 AM PDT
by
driftless
( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
To: kattracks
Never mind about the E.D. incident. Answered in
this post while I was posting my question.
36
posted on
08/26/2003 5:12:36 AM PDT
by
Fawnn
(I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
To: alnick

Somehow, I don't think Ann Coulter would take kindly to being punched in the face.
37
posted on
08/26/2003 5:13:47 AM PDT
by
xrp
To: Fawnn
Prariebreeze mentions the show in #27. I saw the segment yesterday morning. E.D. had just arrived on the set for the 6 am (central) program. She was furious as someone had just told her about Franken's comments in his book. You could tell Steve and Brian were leery about her getting into it as E.D. is known to get a bit excited. Apparently, Franken describes events from the Washington Correspondence dinner. He walked up to the Fox table and started harrassing the guests. He claims that a drunken blond (E.D.) took his picture. E.D. explains that she wasn't drinking but she knows he's referring to her. She called him a liar several times and an idiot. She went on to say anyone who bought his book was an idiot as well. Although Steve and Brian were whincing, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
38
posted on
08/26/2003 5:17:47 AM PDT
by
Quilla
To: kattracks
Anybody giving this NOBODY a forum or a mention is in for a ratings dive. Franken is a lose/lose situation.
39
posted on
08/26/2003 5:20:52 AM PDT
by
PGalt
To: driftless
The interviewer then pointed out some of Franken's own lies including something about stolen material from Harvard....
In her article posted on
this thread, MICHELLE MALKIN mentions how "[t]hanks to Court TV's Smoking Gun Web site www.thesmokinggun.com, we now know that the Saturday Night Live leftover abused his position as an 'academic fellow' (now that's funny) at the Harvard University Kennedy School of Government's Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy in a puerile attempt to trick Attorney General John Ashcroft into publicly sharing his personal experience with abstinence...." (Franken sent letters to Ashcroft and others using Harvard stationery; the letters contained lies about the replies he said he'd received.)
In the introduction to his book, Franken mocks how the research for his book was actually done by his Harvard "students."
40
posted on
08/26/2003 5:22:57 AM PDT
by
Fawnn
(I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
To: Quilla
Thanks! (I'm sure sorry that I missed the show that day!)
41
posted on
08/26/2003 5:24:03 AM PDT
by
Fawnn
(I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
To: PGalt
Yes, Franken is a loser. I have all along suspected that Amazon's bestseller rankings are tampered with since Hillary's lies remained at the top for as long as they did. Franken's just released fiction is currently #1 at Amazon. They should change their company name to Amazing.con.
42
posted on
08/26/2003 5:27:20 AM PDT
by
Quilla
To: kattracks
that's classic...I'd love to have seen that. Crossfire has been plummeting for some time, they moved the show and cut it to 30 minutes. Thank God (can I say that here? haha) I don't have to see Paul Begala's bulbous head anymore.
To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Side whispers throughout most talk show circuits is that Al Franken is in need of mental health therapy and is a walking time bomb. Just a matter of time before he actually physically attacks someone.
44
posted on
08/26/2003 5:55:28 AM PDT
by
smiley
To: SkyPilot
My co-host today is author Al Sharpton -- Franken. Sorry. Tucker's not as much a doormat as he seems, eh?
45
posted on
08/26/2003 5:56:48 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: kattracks
Al Franken is a lying four eyed raving moron.
46
posted on
08/26/2003 6:00:17 AM PDT
by
Rome2000
(McClintock is a megalomaniac with delusions of Ralph Naderism)
To: kattracks
To: meanie monster
Remember "vote for me, Al Franken". LOLHe used to be vacuous, yet slightly amusing when he used to appear on SNL. Nowadays he's just vacuous!
48
posted on
08/26/2003 6:14:37 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: alnick
Beautiful woman or not, Ann would kick his a** in a heartbeat.
Never pick a fight with the long and lanky types. If you're a slow, short armed, myopic squirrel like Franken, superior reach and leverage alone would seal his doom.
Even if it didn't come to blows, the dismantling (and unmanning) he'd undergo trying to debate Ann Coulter would be PPV type material. Plus, being a good conservative girl, if he takes a swing she might just have to shoot him.
49
posted on
08/26/2003 6:16:22 AM PDT
by
katana
To: Samwise
Rule 1 of Liberalism: Facts, logic, and consistency are irrelevant. Addendum to rule 1: Facts, logic, and consistency are worse than irrelevant, they are the tools of the oppressor.
(I actually heard one of Farrakhan's flunkies say that once.)
50
posted on
08/26/2003 6:19:57 AM PDT
by
ko_kyi
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