Posted on 08/26/2003 5:21:50 PM PDT by Pharmboy
She told me he NEVER made any disparaging comments about our troops serving in Viet Nam and also told me that the Senator had served in Viet Nam........
I expressed amazement at her outright lie and ended the call by saying that I had no idea Kerry was a Viet Nam veteran.
Gee, why doesn't he say that more often? Some people may not realize he's a war hero...
Excellent observation!
[The following is an official quote from Kerry's OFFICIAL website]
Vietnam didn't threaten US; US war crimes did
Many very highly decorated veterans have testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia. These were not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.
They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war.
We call this the Winter Soldier Investigation. The term Winter Soldier is a play on words of Thomas Paine's in 1776 when he spoke of the summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough. We feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come
Source: Winter Soldier speech to Senate Foreign Relations Cmte Apr 23, 1971
[For some reason, the last sentence is not finished. Here it is, from the actual speech]:
"We could come back to this country, we could be quiet, we could hold our silence, we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, not the reds, but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out...".
Vietnam war was criminal hypocrisy and tore apart US
There is nothing in South Vietnam which could happen that realistically threatens the United States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart.
[Although most of this sentence is standard communist rhetoric, of the day, I cannot figure out what the phrase " which those misfits supposedly abuse," means, or to whom it refers. Any ideas? The entire speech (I assume) is found here]:
We found that not only was it a civil war, an effort by a people who had for years been seeking their liberation from colonial influence. We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages and tearing their country apart. We found also that all too often American men were dying in those rice paddies for want of support from their allies. We saw first hand how monies from American taxes were used for a corrupt dictatorial regime.
Source: Winter Soldier speech to Senate Foreign Relations Cmte Apr 23, 1971
http://issues2002.org/International/John_Kerry_War_+_Peace.htm
These ideas STILL represent Kerry's official position on Vietnam. He is, in essence, condemning ALL Viet Nam veterans as war criminals. Based on the "Silver Star Episode," I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry, himself had engaged in actions he, himself considered "war crimes." It is standard behavior, for (some) people who are carrying a large load of guilt, to turn to radical leftism. The radical left motivates people by drowning them with guilt, then promising a sort of anti-christian "absolution" of that guilt. All you have to do is join THEIR movement, (religion).
In the past, joining the forces working for the enemy was considered being a turncoat, perhaps a traitor. Now it gets you elected to High Office. GRRRRR....
DG
p.s. [holding up both hands in peace/Victory "V"....] "I AM NOT A WAR CRIMINAL"
Uh, wrong, idiot. Weak is weak. Weak is having bad policies, not whether you signed up or were drafted when you were 19. If you sell out USA, aid and abet enemies with back-stabbing comments, or turn away from tough choices - YOU ARE WEAK.
Well Done.
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
I understand perfectly, being a member of several Veteran's organizations (including the VFW). In general, they exist to lobby for more hand-outs from the Federal Government for vets- and the vast majority of members, their hair-raising war stories notwithstanding, were cooks, truck drivers, dental technicians, etc. (I except the Special Forces Association and the Ranger Association from this comment).
In any case, you won't be at a VFW Post or an American Legion bar long before someone starts whining about their lack of medical benefits, the malfeasance of the VA in not granting them 100% disability benefits for life for an ankle they sprained in 1962. A lot of these folks spent their ENTIRE CAREERS going on sick call and building up HUGE medical records- to take to the VA when they retired.
I have real and permanent injuries from a career of jumping out of airplanes and fast-roping out of helicopters- but I will NEVER go begging to the VA as long as I can still work and support myself.
Bottom line- Clinton promised them more than Bush did- so he got the rousing reception.
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